Do you have faith in Bioware to deliver?
#101
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 02:42
#102
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 03:01
it's scary how true this is^element eater wrote...
i have faith that they will deliver an average product that will attract stupidly generous reviews and come with some form of over priced day one dlc
#103
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 05:14
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
I considered Bioware one of the best game companies. That said, I never did fanboy over them.
However, with ME2 and 3 and DA2, I've noticed a sharp decline in writing, consistency and gameplay and what little faith I had has been mostly drained.
Wow, when you and I agree on something completely there is definately something wrong going on.
#104
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 05:33
#105
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 12:36
In fact I would bet anything that whatever comes out will be mediocer at best, but will receive 95+ scores on all the professional gaming sites. The same sites that will be flashing adds for DA3 all over the place.
I thought after DA2 bombed that ME3 would work as hard as ever to make the greatest ending to a gaming trilogy in history, restoring everyone's faith in BioWare as a AAA gaming company. I really thought that. That they knew that it was a make or break deal for BioWare. But instead they only confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt what was suspected all along.
I tried to not believe it. I tried to think that the BioWare of old is still there somewhere. But I am only decieving myself.
BioWare will spend half the game's budget on advertising and figuring out ways to make gamers pay for everything piece meal so they can squeeze every dime out of them. Well sorry but that isn't going to happen with me.
DA3 will be a long 'wait and see' game for me. In the mean time, I have a few more dragons to slay in Skyrim...
#106
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 02:34
Not very likely though - they seem satisfied with mediocre stuff. Even DA:O which so many seem to find genius and brilliant, I thought was pretty damn boring. The combat, world, items, character building and quests/main plotline just served their basic function, but noone of them got me excited. Only finished that because a few of the party members made me care(alistair/morrigan).
Da2 just felt like an experiment to see how low of a quality we fans would accept.
It really feels like they're lacking people that are passionate about RPG's. At least those in charge.
#107
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 06:45
After Dragon Age: Origins, which consumed me in a way games rarely do, I loved BioWare and had enormous faith in them. They had given me an amazing experience, and introduced me to playable dwarves in a way that made me absolutely love them. Thedas and its people captured my imagination. In short, they gave me joy.
Dragon Age II, however, spat upon everything DA:O stood for and was an enormous step back in quality, gameplay, story, characterization and writing. Nothing felt well-done. It all felt rushed and half-digested. I hated having a pre-fab hero forced upon me after enoying the freedom of character creation in DA:O. I hated Hawke, Hawke's story, and all his/her companions. I truly hated everything about it.
Then there was the DLC which attempted to fix a broken product. The DLC was average but did not change the fact that the core game was a disaster.
And then Asunder, and The Silent Grove. Side projects that broke lore, asked questions that will never be answered, and otherwise muddied the waters of the troubled franchise.
So, no, at this point I have never had less faith in them than I do now. The have mismanaged their IP, they have no direction and they seem desperate. At the third game in the series, we ought to have canon hammered out, and we should not still be deciding what sort of gameplay will be featured, or even how the races should look. This is the sign of a company in trouble, a company way out of their depth, with no one at the helm making decisions. BioWare in in trouble and they have pushed fans away so much with their antagonistic, arrogant attitude that it's their own fault at this point. If they listened more to their audience, focused on the games rather than pointless non-canon side projects, maybe things wouldn't be so dire. BioWare also desperately needs a worldmaster to keep the plot threads and canon in order, but that's another story.
I think at this point all we can hope for is a complete, coherent game. That's about all they can be expected to produce these days. My own expectations are low.
#108
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 06:47
Yes.adam1986shadow wrote...
When it comes to Dragon Age 3?
#109
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 07:08
Macrake wrote...
I hope they can deliver a great game. Bioware is afterall the only company making party based RPG's.
Not very likely though - they seem satisfied with mediocre stuff. Even DA:O which so many seem to find genius and brilliant, I thought was pretty damn boring. The combat, world, items, character building and quests/main plotline just served their basic function, but noone of them got me excited. Only finished that because a few of the party members made me care(alistair/morrigan).
Da2 just felt like an experiment to see how low of a quality we fans would accept.
It really feels like they're lacking people that are passionate about RPG's. At least those in charge.
This and it also seems they are lacking people that are passionate about quality, I find it telling that Bioware would release a game that they knew was rushed and with subpar design decisions in it.
Does Bioware actually expect us to accept that Recycled enviroments, raining enemies, low quality background NPCs, stupid fetch quests and missing years of the story etc, were what they thought was the best to make a quality game.
Modifié par ianvillan, 23 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .
#110
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 08:44
#111
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 08:46
#112
Posté 23 juillet 2012 - 10:00
'DA 2 will be a more personal story' they said. That was a shame, because DA 2 is quite probably the least personal story Bioware's ever told. If there's more of that in DA 3, then I want nothing to do with it.
#113
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 12:00
element eater wrote...
i have faith that they will deliver an average product that will attract stupidly generous reviews and come with some form of over priced day one dlc
While you are making accurate prophecies, could you be kind enough to email me six random numbers?
#114
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 02:57
#115
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 03:01
Beyond that it's going to be interesting.
#116
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 04:28
DAO is the best game I've ever played. I really enjoyed ME1 and ME2 and I loved everything but the ending of ME3 - and really even though DA2 wasn't my cup of tea in many ways I still had a better time with it than I've had playing some objectively 'better' games.
So sure, I have faith they can deliver a great game and I have every reason to believe that based on my prior experiences I'll enjoy at least some aspects of it. For me it's an obvious pre-order.
#117
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 06:19
#118
Posté 24 juillet 2012 - 07:26
#119
Posté 25 juillet 2012 - 09:56
But I just don't think they have it any-more...
#120
Posté 26 juillet 2012 - 09:52
#121
Posté 26 juillet 2012 - 10:30
Will I become as excited and involved as I was with DA2 and ME3 and preorder the game? Not a chance. Bioware games are now on the 'wait 1/2-1 year from release to see if it's good, fixed and provided with decent DLC plans then'.
#122
Posté 26 juillet 2012 - 03:17
#123
Posté 27 juillet 2012 - 04:39
Modifié par force192, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:42 .
#124
Guest_PurebredCorn_*
Posté 28 juillet 2012 - 08:40
Guest_PurebredCorn_*
adam1986shadow wrote...
When it comes to Dragon Age 3?
Indeed I do.
#125
Posté 28 juillet 2012 - 05:11
adam1986shadow wrote...
When it comes to Dragon Age 3?
No





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