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#151
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Bioware has a long history of game making, that, if they follow the strengths of the past, they'll make an excellent game.

Those strengths are, and have almost always been

1. The ability to tell a great story. Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect 1, these games cemented Bioware's reputation for the ability to tell a great story.

2. Loveable characters. From Black Whirlwind and Henpecked Hou to HK-47 seeking to eliminate organic meatbags, Carth Onasi in his ever present quest for vengeance, Silk Fox seeking to restore the Empire to its former glory, Ashley Williams wanting to restore her family's reputation, Kaiden Alenko being cool-minded and also open-minded with alien species, Liara the archeologist becoming Liara the Shadow Broker-bioware games have a long history of great characters that we can learn to love, or just love to have with us because they make such hilarious comments.

and 3. Serious themes portrayed through implications and scenery. Jade Empire had the ruins of Old Tien's landing, showing an entire town abandoning many people to death, from the orphanage to the Quarry. The abuse of power from the Emperor and his family, and even the possibility of what happens after death. Betrayal from a loved and respected person, and even philosophical ideas that are compelling...if the gameplay followed through on them. *shrug* Mass Effect dealt with racism...er, speciesism, exploring new possibilities, politics, and the fact that no matter what you (or the character in the game) want to do, there is no way to win 100%. Sacrifice must be made.

I think Bioware's biggest problems lately have been trying to include as many kinds of gamers in their games, and have been forgetting their strengths by trying to do too much.

They have time to improve this. Their games aren't open-world like Skyrim, but the stories and characters by themselves usually made up for it. I believe if they go back to focus on stories and characters, everything else can fall into place.

After the graphic designs, script writing, and voice acting occurs of course. ^_^

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Yes, Bioware's worst games were still better than any game, from other franchises, that I've played. No other games have come close to giving me the stories, companions, banter, and plots that I've gotten from Biowar's games, IMO.

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schalafi wrote...

Yes, Bioware's worst games were still better than any game, from other franchises, that I've played. No other games have come close to giving me the stories, companions, banter, and plots that I've gotten from Biowar's games, IMO.


lol

Dragon Age 2 is not just the worst Bioware game, it is the WORST game I have played.


Mind you I haven't played Duke Nukem Forever.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 03 août 2012 - 06:49 .


#154
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dragonflight288 wrote...

Bioware has a long history of game making, that, if they follow the strengths of the past, they'll make an excellent game.

Those strengths are, and have almost always been

1. The ability to tell a great story. Jade Empire, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect 1, these games cemented Bioware's reputation for the ability to tell a great story.

2. Loveable characters. From Black Whirlwind and Henpecked Hou to HK-47 seeking to eliminate organic meatbags, Carth Onasi in his ever present quest for vengeance, Silk Fox seeking to restore the Empire to its former glory, Ashley Williams wanting to restore her family's reputation, Kaiden Alenko being cool-minded and also open-minded with alien species, Liara the archeologist becoming Liara the Shadow Broker-bioware games have a long history of great characters that we can learn to love, or just love to have with us because they make such hilarious comments.

and 3. Serious themes portrayed through implications and scenery. Jade Empire had the ruins of Old Tien's landing, showing an entire town abandoning many people to death, from the orphanage to the Quarry. The abuse of power from the Emperor and his family, and even the possibility of what happens after death. Betrayal from a loved and respected person, and even philosophical ideas that are compelling...if the gameplay followed through on them. *shrug* Mass Effect dealt with racism...er, speciesism, exploring new possibilities, politics, and the fact that no matter what you (or the character in the game) want to do, there is no way to win 100%. Sacrifice must be made.

I think Bioware's biggest problems lately have been trying to include as many kinds of gamers in their games, and have been forgetting their strengths by trying to do too much.

They have time to improve this. Their games aren't open-world like Skyrim, but the stories and characters by themselves usually made up for it. I believe if they go back to focus on stories and characters, everything else can fall into place.

After the graphic designs, script writing, and voice acting occurs of course. ^_^


Notice that all of the examples you used were BEFORE they teamed up with EA? Bioware as it was in its glory days is LONG GONE. They even had a large round of firings there lately. I doubt any of the original teams are left anymore. Just a bunch of EA lackeys using the Bioware name.

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Faith? Not a bit.
Hope? Less than nothing.

Christopher Nolan is only person can restore Dragon Age series to its former glory. Unfortunately, he doesn't interest in video games.

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adam1986shadow wrote...

When it comes to Dragon Age 3? 


Not really. I trust them with DA3 more than I would anything ME related now. But that's not saying much.

Really I want DA3 to be fantastic. I just doubt it will be despite all the best efforts of some rather talented individuals.

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Nope, none at all.

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GarethJShep

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Hate threads like these, evertime ME3 DLC is released people got to make childish threads. Bioware are a gaming company.... i think that answers that bioware will and always deliver.

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I don't think they'll deliver a product I'll enjoy anymore. Thats a shame.
Also @Garethj17 how is this a hate thread? The OP answered a simple question. I don't think hate is intended. I cant speak for anyone else but I'm burned out on Bioware and just don't care. Thats not hate thats much worse. Antipathy.

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Rockworm503 wrote...
 I cant speak for anyone else but I'm burned out on Bioware and just don't care.


And yet you're posting in their forums, talking about their games.

Interesting thing to do when you say you don't care.

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GarethJShep

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@f1r3storm Exactly my point.

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f1r3storm wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
 I cant speak for anyone else but I'm burned out on Bioware and just don't care.


And yet you're posting in their forums, talking about their games.

Interesting thing to do when you say you don't care.


What?  Only fanboys are allowed on here?  I didn't know there was a rule that I had to love everything they shove out without even thinking about it.

Its the fanbase wonderful people like you keep me here.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

f1r3storm wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
 I cant speak for anyone else but I'm burned out on Bioware and just don't care.


And yet you're posting in their forums, talking about their games.

Interesting thing to do when you say you don't care.


What?  Only fanboys are allowed on here?  I didn't know there was a rule that I had to love everything they shove out without even thinking about it.

Its the fanbase wonderful people like you keep me here.


Everyone knows that only blind fanboyism is allowed on the BSN. Everyone else should apparently just go 

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For the most part I am gone. To the Off-topic section. That place is more interesting than the rest of this site combined. I like the people there most of the time we don't even talk about Bioware.

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Developers rise and fall. Today, BioWare is in decline and CD Projekt RED is on the rise. With DA3, assuming it will not be DA2 v2.0, BioWare can stall the decline, but still have to present a new project after that, because they failed too much lately. Mass Effect, DA2, SWTOR.

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At this point they have probably learned alot at this point about there fans and who actually buys there games

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No.

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Honestly, DA2 is the only game I've ever legitimately hated but yes I do have faith in the ability of those working on the game to deliver a great experience. Not buying at launch mind, but I'm hopeful.

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They did deliver( IMO): with Legacy and MOTA. However with the removal of the neutral dialouge option in ME3, I'm starting to wonder.

Modifié par Yuqi, 04 août 2012 - 10:11 .


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Yuqi wrote...

They did deliver( IMO): with Legacy and MOTA. However with the removal of the neutral dialouge option in ME3, I'm starting to wonder.


I thought the DLC was marginaly better than the original. However, what was jarring was the use of auto-dialogue in banter. In my mind a loss of control of your character in that way makes roleplaying impossible. That and paraphrase in dialogue.

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I know they can make an amazing game, and I'll run to see if they have done it once it's released.

Faith isn't involved.

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Nope.

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Yuqi wrote...

They did deliver( IMO): with Legacy and MOTA. However with the removal of the neutral dialouge option in ME3, I'm starting to wonder.


I couldn't bring myself to support the game by picking up the DLC, but the common consensus seemed to suggest it took several steps back in the right direction.

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I have faith in the DA team, simple as that. Bioware is just a corporate entity when you're on the outside but the DA devs seem a lot closer to the community than the ME team and I'd say Legacy and MOTA proved that they do listen. Anyway, I enjoyed DA2 despite its problems and flaws. I hope they'll fix or improve on those flaws, but mostly I just hope they get the time they need for DA3.

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For me, Dragon Age 2 (major failure), SWTOR and Mass Effect 3 have been disappointments. These three games in my opinion, fall well short of the same high quality, one expects from Bioware.
Examples of high quality, Bioware games include, Dragon Age Origins and Kotor.

I for one, will not pre-order, the next Bioware game and instead will wait for player reviews, before purchasing.