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[Kesshi]

I like to RP my characters, and as such I try not to deviate from their RP while playing the game.  As the title states, I've played through the game twice, once as a Mage and once as a Rogue.

I RP'd the Mage (Female Human) as a girl who grew up in the tower (duh) and was naieve to the world.  She always thought you could "do the right thing" but was forced to grow and accept things she could not change.  She has saved the tower, ended up curing the curse, rescued the Arl of Redcliffe's son AND wife, romanced Alistair, did not let Logaine live and ended up performing the Dark Ritual with Morrigan because she wanted to save her love's life.  Etc.  She basically tried to make everything end "happily ever after" while growing in the process; and I think that I accomplished just that!

I RP'd the Rogue (Male City Elf) as a misanthropic lecherous dastardly evil jerk, with a soft spot for Elves.  I'm currently working on this playthrough but am at the Landsmeet, so the end is just around the corner.  So far he has turned away Leliana, let Sten die, pissed off Alistair (he's at -88), purged the tower, killing Wynne in the process, sided with Branka for the Forge, and told Shale about it, it pissed of Shale quite a bit, too.  He even romanced both Morrigan and Zevren, at same time, and flirts with every girl possible in front of Morrigan, just to ****** off that crazy b^&ch.  He also makes deals with anyone willing to give him anything as a bribe, demons including.  Basically he's a jerk all the way around, and isn't afraid to be a jerk to anyone or anything, deserving or not.  A very fun character to play, and extra rewarding as well, but nearing the end of his time.

For my 3rd character, I want to try to complete the Leliana romance so I think that the character which would fit that best would be a character dedicated to The Maker and the teachings of the Chantry.  A man of cloth without the cloth.  I would also like to make this playthrough as a Warrior.  I have not played many of the starting origins so I'm not sure if one or the other would be more appropriate.  Human Noble, City Elf, or Dalish Elf.  More-so I'm asking if any of these would be highly inappropriate.  For example, it probably would not be appropriate to make a Dwarf who has dedicated his life to The Maker, which is why I have discluded Dwarves from my race selection.  I'll make a Dwarf eventually, but this time through I think I need a non-Dwarf for RP purposes.

Have you any suggestions?

Also, any suggestions on specilizations and skill selections would be welcome.  Reaver seams like a no-no, being as it's tied in very closely with Blood Magic.  But what of the other 3?  Since I'm going to be a goodie-goodie, I can always take Alistair along for a tank, so I won't have to worry about me needing to tank.  However, should I need to tank, I can easily pick up tanking stats and abilities.  Any advice?

[Aedan_Cousland]

Although I haven't played as a Dalish elf from the codex entries it seems as if they are polytheists and don't worship the Maker. They have many gods such as the godess of the hunt or the god of crafting.

A human noble or a city elf would seem like a better fit for a devout Andrastean. I'm not sure if city elves have much interaction with the Chantry early in their origin, but the Couslands do have itheir own chapel with a priestess in their castle.

[arrrasdgaehjskmszkm]

I suggest Human noble warrior with templar especialization. That seems the most chantry-lover oriented origin to me and the templars are the champions of the chantry, too.

Dalish elves are sworn enemies to the human institutions, especially the chantry ( they used the exalted Marches to destroy the elven Vales), and elves have "apostates" as tribe leaders.

[Auraad]

arrrasdgaehjskmszkm wrote...

I suggest Human noble warrior with templar especialization. That seems the most chantry-lover oriented origin to me and the templars are the champions of the chantry, too.
Dalish elves are sworn enemies to the human institutions, especially the chantry ( they used the exalted Marches to destroy the elven Vales), and elves have "apostates" as tribe leaders.

I agree.
Human noble - you get a church of the maker in the castle of your family  - fits the best. Also, a human-human relationship is still the "most normal" thing and me thinx Andraste was a human after all (ok, she probably was a dragon disguised as a human )

Actually, seeing the backgrounds (I've played all 6 of them) and *feeling* them would make it absolutely unbelievable for an elf to romance a human - ok, depends on the char you'd like to play (jerk or not), but any non-jerkish elf would probably not romance a human.

[HarlequinDream]

Auraad wrote...

arrrasdgaehjskmszkm wrote...

I suggest Human noble warrior with templar especialization. That seems the most chantry-lover oriented origin to me and the templars are the champions of the chantry, too.
Dalish elves are sworn enemies to the human institutions, especially the chantry ( they used the exalted Marches to destroy the elven Vales), and elves have "apostates" as tribe leaders.

me thinx Andraste was a human after all (ok, she probably was a dragon disguised as a human )

...Maybe Flemeth IS Andraste...

(This was a joke. I am not serious.)

[Kesshi]

Auraad wrote...

I agree.
Human noble - you get a church of the maker in the castle of your family  - fits the best. Also, a human-human relationship is still the "most normal" thing and me thinx Andraste was a human after all (ok, she probably was a dragon disguised as a human )

Actually, seeing the backgrounds (I've played all 6 of them) and *feeling* them would make it absolutely unbelievable for an elf to romance a human - ok, depends on the char you'd like to play (jerk or not), but any non-jerkish elf would probably not romance a human.

Now that I think about it, you're probably right.  My guy romancing Morrigan was a little out of character.  But I'm learning this now, after the fact.  Ahh well, I learn more about lore each game.

It seems that a Human Warrior is the way to go.  I'm thinking I'll go Male Human Warrior, with specialization of Templar, and what should the 2nd one be?  I don't know a lot about Warriors.  My first time through I kept Alistair on auto-mode most of the time.  I manually leveled him up, but I almost never mircomanaged his movements.  The game was on Easy, so that's how I was able to blindly set tactics and level up with no clue and still win.    Anyways, my second time through I didn't use a Warrior,  Zevron is my tank.  I kicked the difficulty up to Normal, and am finding it easier than my first time through.

Now my third time through I am going to kick the difficulty up to Hard.  (Notice a pattern here?)  And, like I said above, I don't know anything about Warriors.  Should I go Sword/Board, DW, 2H?  Should I pick up someth other than Templar?

Thanks for the answers above, and thanks in advance for any other answers you provide.  

[Riot Inducer]

Kesshi wrote...

Auraad wrote...

I agree.
Human noble - you get a church of the maker in the castle of your family  - fits the best. Also, a human-human relationship is still the "most normal" thing and me thinx Andraste was a human after all (ok, she probably was a dragon disguised as a human )

Actually, seeing the backgrounds (I've played all 6 of them) and *feeling* them would make it absolutely unbelievable for an elf to romance a human - ok, depends on the char you'd like to play (jerk or not), but any non-jerkish elf would probably not romance a human.

Now that I think about it, you're probably right.  My guy romancing Morrigan was a little out of character.  But I'm learning this now, after the fact.  Ahh well, I learn more about lore each game.

It seems that a Human Warrior is the way to go.  I'm thinking I'll go Male Human Warrior, with specialization of Templar, and what should the 2nd one be?  I don't know a lot about Warriors.  My first time through I kept Alistair on auto-mode most of the time.  I manually leveled him up, but I almost never mircomanaged his movements.  The game was on Easy, so that's how I was able to blindly set tactics and level up with no clue and still win.    Anyways, my second time through I didn't use a Warrior,  Zevron is my tank.  I kicked the difficulty up to Normal, and am finding it easier than my first time through.

Now my third time through I am going to kick the difficulty up to Hard.  (Notice a pattern here?)  And, like I said above, I don't know anything about Warriors.  Should I go Sword/Board, DW, 2H?  Should I pick up someth other than Templar?

Thanks for the answers above, and thanks in advance for any other answers you provide.  

For rp reasons Champion would be a good choice for the second spec, however if you want your warrior to deal more damage and say, focus on two-handers, then berserker is the way to go.

[mousestalker]

Champion/Templar or Champion/Berserker are both good options. Of the warrior specs, the consensus seems to be that archery is the weakest. Two handed and dual wielders both have their advocates. Both fill the off-tank/damage dealer role. Sword and board is the main tank role. Shale, Oghren and Sten are all off-tanks. Alistair is a main tank. Lelianna and Zevran are your rogue choices and Morrigan and Wynne are the mage choices.



The only especially devout npc is Lelianna and her ideas are a bit 'off' in terms of doctrine. Shale and Sten offer some great dialog choices about religion. Morrigan is an atheist and Wynne is a conformist agnostic/theist



If you are playing a male character, I would suggest that you go with templar/champion sword and board warrior and not use Alistair much. Wynne and Shale fit nicely as the rest of your fighting harem or you can go Wynne and Sten.



For a female character, human noble is still the best choice, but you might consider being an off-tank so teaming with Alistair is a more natural fit.



In either case, Wynne is the best fit for a mage team mate as she and Lelianna rarely disagree. That does mean sparing the mages at the circle tower, though. If you're looking for entertaining dialog choices and are willing to endure a lot of approval loss, having Morrigan and Lelianna in a party and romancing them both produces much sniping and drama.



Just some ideas.

[Zan Mura]

You don't really need to have a believer as a PC to get it on with Leliana. As long as they are aligned neutral to good as a whole, and have relatively kind personalities.

I've played the game through as: Mage - Leliana romance, City Elf Rogue - Alistair romance, Dwarf Noble - Morrigan romance. And out of those, the Mage and the Dwarf Noble origins were clearly the best (City Elf started great but failed to carry through as well as expected, after the origin).

So I heartily recommend Dwarf Noble. That thing was so damned good BW deserves a special prize of some kind for it, in my opinion. While I've always liked Dwarves for their stubborness and attitude, I've never liked playing one. Too one-dimensional and not enough glamour. But in DAO, just playing the origin as Dwarf Noble even on my third time in a row when I was already getting relatively bored, totally rekindled the flame for the game.

The whole mindset of dwarven politics - not evil but certainly practical, effective and ruthless - and a character that adopted that mindset completely, was darned awesome to play. Plus, your origin plays a *much* greater role as a Dwarf Noble, than it does as a City Elf for example.

[Kesshi]

Zan Mura wrote...

You don't really need to have a believer as a PC to get it on with Leliana. As long as they are aligned neutral to good as a whole, and have relatively kind personalities.

Isn't that the whole idea behind RPing, though?  

I got the Blood Mage specilization unlock with my good-aligned Mage.  I then reloaded and did that part of the quest "the right way" for her.  I'm well aware that I don't need to be a believer to romance Leliana, however I want to be a believer because it seems to fit better.  Also, I need a reason to decide all the decisions I make.  "Because that's what The Maker would want" is a good foundation, is it not?

I've powergamed through many many games, and that is getting old to me.  I'm enjoying the RP aspect of gaming, and dealing with the consiquences from my actions.  I don't need to be the most powerful; I've done that, I know what it's like to annihilate small towns.  Rather, it's more fun to see what I can accomplish whilst not being the most powerful min/maxed character possible.  For example, my first time through, I played a "good" character, and I didn't open any chests/crates/etc. which were lying around town, or in someone's home.  The game offers no penalty for opening them up, however it was not in my character's nature to steal, thusly I went without.

Anybody can beat the game with the most powerful team.  I try to beat the game with the most fun team.

[Zan Mura]

There's more than one way to roleplay. I couldn't care less about powergaming myself in this game. There's no real need, as even on hard the game's easy enough without even trying to pick all the optimal skills and items due to the automatic level scaling.



Simply put, to me it seems that Leliana is not some narrowsighted religious zealot who would never even look twice at someone who didn't consider her beliefs to be the be-all-end-all of life and reality. So as long as your personalities match, she doesn't much care about your beliefs. You may choose to make a devout PC if you want, but not doing so while still romancing Leliana would most certainly not be against her character.

[mousestalker]

Well the most fun team with Lelianna from a roleplaying standpoint has to include Morrigan. Shale offers some prize winning sarcasm towards them both, so I'd recommend Lelianna, Shale and Morrigan just for the convos. However, I like to swap in Sten from time to time. Lelianna calling him a softie is easily my favourite dialog of all time.

[dtking3]

...Maybe Flemeth IS Andraste...

(This was a joke. I am not serious.)

LOL!  Maybe!