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So was this "the best game Bioware have ever made" ?


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#51
JeffZero

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chemiclord wrote...

Archereon wrote...

Here's a better question:

"Is Mass Effect 3 BioWare's worst game?"


Honestly... no.

KOTOR 2 really did not do anything for me at all.  It was like they tried to write KOTOR 1, only this time with everyone involved severely concussed.


That was technically an Obsidian game, though, to be fair.

I mean... ME3's a top ten game for me. Far be it for me to help people find reasons to list it last. But... interest of fairness and all. >_>

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I don't think its even the best ME game, although it does have some of the series highest points IMO. I'd probably say its worse than ME 1 and 2, but not by a lot (plus I think those are excellent games.)

I would put it around DA:O, maybe better since I was terrible at the game, and my frustration sort of hindered my ability to get into the story (and Origins is still a great game.)

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Archereon wrote...

Here's a better question:

"Is Mass Effect 3 BioWare's worst game?"

Nope.

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ChickenMan77

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Nope, DA:O is the top dawg..

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Arturia Pendragon

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Baldur's Gate 2, Mass Effect, Knights of the Old Republic, or Dragon Age: Origins, in no particular order.

Mass Effect 3 may have been some of the developers' best game ever (random GFX guy #34's best, for instance), but it is far, far from being BioWare's best.

Modifié par Arturia Pendragon, 15 juillet 2012 - 09:51 .


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MandaPanda81 wrote...

KOTOR or ME1



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No, it's right there on the bottom just barely below DA2. BG2 is the best game they've made and it had two of the best romances they've ever made and oddly enough possibly the worst romance they've made.

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Here is my list (judging all games relative to what was out at the time of their release and what resources were available at the time):

1) Baldur's Gate 1 - truly a masterpiece and far ahead of its time. 
2) KOTOR - some of the best story-telling you will find in a game.
3) Baldur's Gate 2 - Baldur's Gate with more twists and turns
4) DA:O - created a new fantasy setting and story on an epic scale.  Character interactions were better than perhaps anything else created at the time
5) Mass Effect 1 - created the Mass Effect setting and a new universe to explore.  Combat was clunky, but the RPG elements more than made up for it.
6) Neverwinter Nights - probably the most underrated Bioware game.  Truly fun game to play with interesting storytelling and a great sense of exploration and nonlinearity.
7) Mass Effect 2 - solid continuation of Mass Effect franchise and improved combat
8) Dragon Age II - it was a bit too ambituous, had some glaring flaws (ex: reused maps), and many of the elements did not resonate well with me (ex: the supposed passage of 10 years in-game), but it still had its moments.
9) Mass Effect 3 - my least favorite Bioware game to date.  Combat was solid, but the short, linear SP and the detachments, contradictions, and oversimplifications of the plot did not sit well with me.

Not considered: Jade Empire, Sonic Chronicals: Dark Brotherhood, TOR, MDK2, and Shattered Steel.  I haven't played any of those games yet though I hope to play Jade Empire sometime in the future.

Modifié par Blitzhawk65, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:05 .


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BigGuy28 wrote...
 possibly the worst romance they've made.


babby in backpack?

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Either Jade Empire, KOTOR or DA:O.

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Kamfrenchie

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Baldur's gate serie and fallout, srsly

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marshalleck wrote...

BigGuy28 wrote...
 possibly the worst romance they've made.


babby in backpack?


Aerie didn't bother me so much. Anomen possibly the worst character they have ever made, I'd take Jacob over him.

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I prefer to list things by "favorite", since arguing about what's "best" is pointless.

And yes, ME3 is indeed my favorite Bioware game (though DA:O and ME2 are pretty much tied with it really).

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Blitzhawk65

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BigGuy28 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

BigGuy28 wrote...
 possibly the worst romance they've made.


babby in backpack?


Aerie didn't bother me so much. Anomen possibly the worst character they have ever made, I'd take Jacob over him.



Agreed, I had playthroughs of just about every gender, alignment, and class on BG2, but I could only stand to do the Anomen romance once.  The rest of my female characters went without a LI

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ME2 hands down, I've tried others but they are either to boring or sucky gameplay

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Alex Arterius

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Reading through this had made me realize how badly I need to play Baldur's Gate :(

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Randy1012

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Yeah, I haven't played either Baldur's Gate yet, either. I keep meaning to, but I always get sidetracked by other stuff.

Of the BioWare games I've played, I'd probably have to say that DAO is the "best." But it's not my favorite. In terms of favorites (not including expansions), I'd probably rank them thusly:

1. Knights of the Old Republic
2. Mass Effect
3. Dragon Age: Origins
4. Jade Empire
5. Mass Effect 2
6. Dragon Age II
7. Mass Effect 3
8. Neverwinter Nights

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For me:
1.DA:O
2.KOTOR
3.ME2

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Blitzhawk65

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Alex Arterius wrote...

Reading through this had made me realize how badly I need to play Baldur's Gate :(



Watch this, it's the prologue for Baldur's Gate.  It alone blows just about every other video game story out of the water.



Then watch this scene, it occurs after the short prologue gameplay sequence a few minutes into the game so it isn't really spoiling much.




And that's only in the first 10 minutes or so of gameplay.  Right now a company is making a Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition with updated graphics and gameplay so it may be worth holding off for a while.  Although the old graphics really aren't that bad and still hold up well enough to play it today.

Modifié par Blitzhawk65, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:16 .


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Hell no, ME3 is no way near.

In my opinion ME2 was far, far superior. Haven't played enough BW games other than DA or ME to judge otherwise but I'd say ME2 is my favourite and probably wouldn't be beaten.

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ME3 is an insult to RPG's everywhere.

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JamieCOTC

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DA:O
KOTOR
ME2
ME1
Baldur's Gate
ME3

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Alex Arterius

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Blitzhawk65 wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

Reading through this had made me realize how badly I need to play Baldur's Gate :(



Watch this, it's the prologue for Baldur's Gate.  It alone blows just about every other video game story out of the water.



Then watch this scene, it occurs after the short prologue gameplay sequence a few minutes into the game so it isn't really spoiling much.




And that's only in the first 10 minutes or so of gameplay.  Right now a company is making a Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition with updated graphics and gameplay so it may be worth holding off for a while.  Although the old graphics really aren't that bad and still hold up well enough to play it today.


Aha okay! I'l check those out :)

Thanks for thattt :D

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ME3 inspired me to uninstall the entire ME series form my PC, so no.

Baldur's Gate rules supreme

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Alex Arterius

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Xellith wrote...

ME3 is an insult to RPG's everywhere.


Aint that the truth :L