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[Kommiekat]

I'm playing this game for the third time and thought about building Sten up as a Dualist, two sword weilding tank.

Most likely will have to put points in Dexterity and Cunning.
He's already got the strength, so maybe later he can weild two main swords and wrek havoc.

Any comments?

[Loc'n'lol]

Kommiekat wrote...

Any comments?

You fail at spelling ?

Are you using a respec mod ? Otherwise, well, Sten can't be a rogue, and he's already quite commited to the two-handed tree when you get him, so switching to dual-wield doesn't sound like a great idea.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Sten... as a duelist... "Hey Sten, there is a crazy guy here who thinks you should dual wield rather than wield Asala, what is your opinion on it?"



Sten: No!



Whilst I admit it is a bit annoying that both of the 'non-animal/golem' party member warriors are both setup as 2Her warriors, if I was to choose to respec either of them, it would probably be Oghren more than Sten, namely because of Sten's personal quest and whole backstory.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Yeah, dual-wielding and especially rogue or duelist Sten would just be wierd. A dual-wielding Oghren, on the other hand? I'm actually surprised that he wasn't a dual-wielder to begin with.

[mousestalker]

Sten may like kittens and art, but I can't really see him as being into cosmetics. Zevran is the more that type.

[XOGHunter246]

rogue??? how can sten be a rouge???

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Must be all that blood that gets on his face when he is cleaving people with Asala.

Nehraa kadan!

[NivraxDeathbringer]

"So, Grey Warden, you want to tell me that using that foreign technique of yours you call "glitching", you made second Asala? Give me a moment so I can learn how to dual wield two-handed swords."

[Tirigon]

Without mods, Sten can never be a rogue. Dual-wield warrior is possible, but it doesnt fit to him I think. But if you really want it, I recommend meta-game items mod. Then you can change him to whatever you like. I do also recommend to get the mod that allows to use 2h-weapons in 1 hand. So he could really have 2 greatswords. (Both mods can be found at dragonagenexus)

[Tonya777]

Dual weilders (no anti knockdown talents) make ****ty tanks

[Godeshus]

mousestalker wrote...

Sten may like kittens and art, but I can't really see him as being into cosmetics. Zevran is the more that type.

You forgot cookies.

[tetracycloide]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Sten... as a duelist... "Hey Sten, there is a crazy guy here who thinks you should dual wield rather than wield Asala, what is your opinion on it?"

Sten: "But I am a two-hand warrior so it follows that I cannot be a dual wielder."

Grey Warden: "Asala kinda sucks stat wise so to min-max you I already sold it." *under their breath "Didn't even get much money for it either..."

Sten: "Katara, bas!"

[Aedan_Cousland]

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Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 17 décembre 2009 - 08:23 .

[Kommiekat]

Thanks for some, but not all of the replies:

1. Figured I'd get some smart-ass remarks

2. Never heard of Asala until I went to Wiki. I'm more than positive most of you had to Wiki it as well.

3. Completely forgot that he can only be a warrior. Two handed warriors are SLOOOOWWW  at swinging in the early part of the game and takes until mid-late to late until they've got strength to swing it with purpose.
It's like watching someone swing a bat with rocks tied to it.

On the other hand, with his starting strength, he could kick some serious butt with two swords.  Just have to build up the Dex.

Modifié par Kommiekat, 17 décembre 2009 - 08:35 .

[Meleth75]

1. You figured you'd get some smart-ass replies but still wrote rouge in title? You know, rouge as in makeup...
2. You didn't get the joke about the makeup... See point 1.
3. Err.. ok. What do you mean he can only be... He is. You can't change your companion classes as much as you can't change their gender. I find that rather obvious though and kinda strange that you haven't figured that out after two playthroughs...

And I also find it kinda obvious that making him dual wield (without respeccing him with toolset) is a bad decision. He is already specced for 2h. You will waste several points in making him into something he is not. Unless you play on easy, that will backfire.

A tank is a person meant to soak up a lot of damage. DW is for damage. If you try to do both you'll get a mediocre player. And mediocre won't cut it on higher difficulties.

Modifié par Meleth75, 18 décembre 2009 - 12:25 .

[Jonfon_ire]

I used the respec mod to turn Oghren into a dual wielder instead. Between myself (Arcane Warrior/Spirit Healer), Shale and him we muddle through without any of them being a pure tank really. He does frightening damage wielding the Star Metal sword and The Edge.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

Kommiekat wrote...

2. Never heard of Asala until I went to Wiki. I'm more than positive most of you had to Wiki it as well.

The only other possible explanation is that a precious few pro gamers managed to stumble accross his well hidden personal quest.

[mousestalker]

I like interacting with NPC's with dialog in rpg's. You learn some amazing stuff that way.

Reading ftw!

Modifié par mousestalker, 18 décembre 2009 - 04:21 .

[Kommiekat]

Meleth75 wrote...

1. You figured you'd get some smart-ass replies but still wrote rouge in title? You know, rouge as in makeup...
2. You didn't get the joke about the makeup... See point 1.
3. Err.. ok. What do you mean he can only be... He is. You can't change your companion classes as much as you can't change their gender. I find that rather obvious though and kinda strange that you haven't figured that out after two playthroughs...

See this stuff up here?  Waste of space and completely unnessessary.
So I wrote ROUGE.  Big deal. You can't see the obvious mistake and just carry on?  Maybe not.

And I also find it kinda obvious that making him dual wield (without respeccing him with toolset) is a bad decision. He is already specced for 2h. You will waste several points in making him into something he is not. Unless you play on easy, that will backfire.

A tank is a person meant to soak up a lot of damage. DW is for damage. If you try to do both you'll get a mediocre player. And mediocre won't cut it on higher difficulties.

Now see that up there?  Good stuff. Good info. Worthy of discussion.
The Dual set up for him is not ghost out.  I can put Dex points into him since he does start out with some heavy strength and stop putting into the Two weilding weapon slots by adding it to Duelist.

Same could be done with Allistar.  He as some points into Magic because he was a Templar.
A gamer could halt it as it is and move everything into magic. 
It would be interesesting to see what happens.

Think I'll give it a try.

[Kommiekat]

Daveyboy154 wrote...

Kommiekat wrote...

2. Never heard of Asala until I went to Wiki. I'm more than positive most of you had to Wiki it as well.

The only other possible explanation is that a precious few pro gamers managed to stumble accross his well hidden personal quest.

We'll golly gee. Aren't you precious.

Getting on his good side, besides bribing him with goodies, is not all that easy and I was not able to kiss his buttocks as well as you seemed to have managed to do. 
Congradulations.  Got a bit of brown on your nose there, pro-gamer or is that pro-blow?

You do the right thing and save villagers from being massacered by ghost warriors and him and Morrigan are on your case about it.

You can play this game a hundred times and there is no way to play it the same way again.

[Rainen89]

Actually, Sten is probably the easiest person to get to moderate + rep. Just say short answers, don't bring him along unless you kill darkspawn and don't be afraid to kick his ass. Don't act indecisive as well. Morrigan/sten are by far easiest to get, it has nothing to do with pro gamer just knowing what text selection to use.

That aside, if you want to make Sten a duelist it will require some hack or exploit, it's not something that's supposed to happen. If you had the option I'd totally opt for making him a mage. Duelist isn't even that great, dual wield is better w/ assassin/ranger anyway or bard if you want a CC turret.

[Bullets McDeath]

I just want to state I didn't have to wiki Asala. I mean, it's his personal quest. You miiiiight want check out the character as he is before you mod the crap out of him. That's your perogative, natch, but he works well for what he is, I think. Somehow my Sten always ends up better than Oghren.

[Rainen89]

It's THE sten. =p

[Alphakiller]

Kommiekat wrote...

Daveyboy154 wrote...

Kommiekat wrote...

2. Never heard of Asala until I went to Wiki. I'm more than positive most of you had to Wiki it as well.

The only other possible explanation is that a precious few pro gamers managed to stumble accross his well hidden personal quest.

We'll golly gee. Aren't you precious.

Getting on his good side, besides bribing him with goodies, is not all that easy and I was not able to kiss his buttocks as well as you seemed to have managed to do. 
Congradulations.  Got a bit of brown on your nose there, pro-gamer or is that pro-blow?

You do the right thing and save villagers from being massacered by ghost warriors and him and Morrigan are on your case about it.

You can play this game a hundred times and there is no way to play it the same way again.

why are you acting so hostile?

[Kommiekat]

Alphakiller wrote...



why are you acting so hostile?

Dude, apologies.  It's the Sten taint.  It gets into your blood.