Been playing since the original ME1. Never had a problem with Vega. Took him on a lot of missions. Also took Kaiden on a lot of missions too. Liara for crowd control. Javik for Dark Channel and stuff. I did use James as a tech expert once..... once for the lolz... on Rannoch.
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Posté 11 novembre 2012 - 10:26
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I love Ronnie from Jersey Shore. He's a pretty cool guy.
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Posté 11 novembre 2012 - 10:32
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It says I don't like the Jersey Shore lol
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Posté 11 novembre 2012 - 10:57
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I can't say I ever really hated James, but compared to the likes of Garrus, Tali, Ashley, Liara and Javik he just couldn't cut it. I barely took him on any missions. I mean, I took him on a few if I felt his being there really fit. I mean, these are all really established characters (bar Javik) who we have been with since day one. Compared to James we are a lot more emotionally invested in these characters and their story arcs.
This might account for why so many people hate Vega. For them (like me) he is simply baggage. He's there, but never really used. So they get the bare minimum of exposure to him.
This might account for why so many people hate Vega. For them (like me) he is simply baggage. He's there, but never really used. So they get the bare minimum of exposure to him.
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Posté 11 novembre 2012 - 11:25
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I'm more into Vinny.BringBackNihlus wrote...
I love Ronnie from Jersey Shore. He's a pretty cool guy.
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Posté 11 novembre 2012 - 11:32
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I don't like Vega for a lot of the reasons some people seem to like him. His kicking of consoles and crashing of shuttles was stupid, anyone who would have been vaguely considered for something like N7 should be several shades more competent with tech than that, as well as less willing to endanger team-mates with his reckless actions. Doing more than kicking the console isn't exactly rocket-science, especially when in the ME-verse you can do hacking in a mostly automated way with a simple omni-tool VI that basically does it for you once activated, and he'd already mentioned pulling wires (although that may have been more of a bioware animators being lazy issue), but he still could have disabled the console more easily by shooting at it than kicking it like that.
He doesn't show any noticeable leadership skills, tactical skills, strategic skills, or anything along those lines in the game that qualifies him as more than a grunt, so I'm left wondering how he got a command ranking (other than to excuse his presence on the Normandy or appease the ego of his voice-actor), not to mention his hints at below standard intelligence as mentioned above. It was laughable that he was even considered for N7 after all that is considered. I might almost excuse it if he was such an utter badass that it made up for his lack of leadership talent, but he's not that impressive there either, he's basically a soldier of slightly above average skills who has mastered the use of a defensive armor trick that screws with your mobility, and whose main specialty in a fight seems to be making himself into a huge target, not exactly a smart idea given the power of many ME weapons, even with his cute armor trick, and the cover-focused system the game encourages.
His muscles are another level that detracts from him, the extra strength granted by muscles that large isn't enough of an advantage, especially when we've left behind swords and bows for guns and grenades, to make up for the loss in flexibility and speed caused by the excess bulk, not to mention the potential extra cost of bulkier than standard armor to fit his rare build, and the larger profile that makes him more of a target and harder to be stealthy and utilize cover. If he really needed the extra strength for combat purposes, cybernetics or special armor exo-skeletal enhancements would be a much more efficient way of gaining such strength, likely without the extra bulk that makes him more of a target. The only excuse I can think of for combat purposes is intimidation factor, and even that is laugh-worthy when you are in a setting like ME, where races like the Krogan are running around making even the best human bodybuilder a joke in comparison, and human males are already stronger and bulkier than most other races besides Krogan, plus he could just use larger armor with strength-boosting exo-skeleton enhancements for the same purpose. The time and effort he spends maintaining that strength could be far better spent on remedial tech skills training and studying tactics, strategy, and diplomacy. In the end, the only excuse for building up his muscles like that is personal vindication and vanity, implying an overblown, delicate ego, of someone desperate for respect, which he actually shows hints of in some of his interactions with Shepard, seeking their approval for his wishy-washy interest in the N7 program, getting the tattoo if he is encouraged to go through with it, and constantly joking around to try and engage others.
His spanglish is another level of irritation, although less at him as a character, potentially, and more at bioware being stupid. We, players, do not necessarily all speak both spanish and english. However, we also don't speak the half-dozen of likely alien languages that are likely being spoken to us, and there are occasional hints that most people aren't even speaking English at all, but some form of Galactic Basic, which is only being translated to the player as English. Either way, we are hearing translatored stuff as a player, which means Bioware should be translating stuff to _all the same language_, even if a character, say some egotistical Salarian, is mixing and matching a dozen different languages while talking to us, we wouldn't realize it because all we are hearing is what comes out of the translator, which either means Bioware is assuming we all know both Spanish and English as players, or, even worse, that Bioware is assuming that Spanish _isn't programmed into the translators_, I could believe it if old Quarian curse words and prayers were skipped over on occasion, especially if they didn't become a part current Quarian language standards until shortly after the Mourning War, as they re-adopted old curse words and prayers from a mostly lost language and mixed it with their standard language, which, due to prejudice against Quarians since then, standard translation programs haven't been updated, but Spanish is a major language on Earth no matter how you cut it, and would likely still be so in the future, meaning that it should be programmed into the translators. Even if James' speech isn't being translated, in fact, especially if it isn't, his language mixing is rude, because some of his words are not understood by those around him, everyone who doesn't know both the languages he is mixing together, the cutesy type of 'private club' childishness involved there is astounding. There is also the possibility he is mixing languages and causing glitches in translators because of that (and Quarians mixing languages is similar case, where they have the old and new Keelish or something confusing the translators when they slip in a Bosh'tet or Keelah'salai), but the pattern of use doesn't seem to fit that, plus he'd have figured out by that point that the language mixing messes with translators, so the only reasons he could be doing it is to mess with people who don't actually know both languages. Claiming racial pride or something like that as a mexican american or something like that would only work if spanglish had solidified into enough of an actual language to deserve it's own translator programs or something, in reality, it is only a form of sloppy language used by poorly educated or purposefully socially isolated (not getting along with others who aren't also spanish and english speakers) mexican americans who speak mostly Spanish at home, but learned bits of English at school or to cope with living in the US, where English is the primary language of most people, and mix languages either because they don't know enough English to communicate fully in that language, or are speaking with mainly Spanish speakers and don't know enough Spanish to fully communicate, or are being purposefully rude/exclusive and trying to only communicate clearly with those who speak both languages. I am of the belief, however, that language evolves, and given trends, and the history of English itself as a language, it is much more likely that an actual Spanglish language would have developed by the point in time the Mass Effect series is set, but that, again, means that the language should be properly translated by the translators unless there is some kind of racisim going on against Spanglish speakers by the people who programmed human languages into the galactic translators, in which case continuing to speak Spanglish either means they are all too stupid/rude to create a program for Spanglish translation and submit it themselves (which is insane to believe), or they purposefully are speaking a language that translators don't cover properly, which is worse. I doubt Bioware put that much thought into it, but it still affects how the character is portrayed in a setting where lore is important. We also have evidence that Shepard does not know Spanish/Spanglish because even Prothean, which is clearly _not_ in the translators as only Shepard seems to properly understand it thanks to the Cipher, is translated to us the players.
Next is the manner in which he behaves towards Shepard which occasionally borders on insubordination after Shepard's rank is re-instated by Anderson, this might almost be excused by their prior (off-screen) relationship during Shepard's time waiting grounded on Earth between ME2 and ME3, during which Shepard was relieved of command and a pseudo-criminal to some degree, as well as the emotional situation with Earth under attack, as well as the fact that he is easily corrected, but he is still often behaving rudely or overly familiar towards a commanding officer, something we don't see the likes of Ashley, Alenko, or even the no-longer-Alliance Jacob. Joker sometimes pushes things with his jokes, but he isn't overly familiar the way James is. Shepard's lack of options to react to this and shut down this behavior makes this even more frustrating for many players, even if you assume Shepard was fine with this while relieved of command, when command was restored, many Shepards should realize that their relationship should change, and remind James of this strictly. The flirting with Femshep without being a romance-able character, and the way it is done, also feels sexist and rude, although I recognize it as harmless, it is still ill-conductive of a proper command structure, even if the Alliance is a much looser military than, say, the US military, in terms of fraternizing regulations, which some chats with Alenko and Ashley in the first game, and Joker in this one, indicate fraternizing _is_ frowned upon, especially within command structures between those of different rank.
I don't have much of a problem with his joking, which, while I didn't find all of it funny all the time, I did find occasionally funny (although he sometimes seemed to be the butt of more jokes than he cracked, such as the omelets with mysterious eggs just after the Krogan left the ship... and interactions with Javik). Nor do I have a problem with having a 'just a soldier' character, which his performance was believable for, but the trying to pretend that this character had a command ranking and was even considered for N7, regardless of some history of a semi-successful intelligence gathering mission vs. the Collectors... well, it just feels shoehorned in because they were trying to make him more impressive on paper, when things shouldn't have worked out that way by the way he is in the game, unless the overall competence levels of the Alliance is _really bad_ and he stands out in comparison... which I actually might believe, especially if you subscribe to the idea that everyone in the galaxy who has been exposed to ME tech is at least mildly exposed to idiot-ball effect and often some forms of mild indoctrination to explain the strange pacing of tech advancement, and the number of times individual groups and the Galaxy at large seems to hold the idiot ball.
James seems to be trying to play the role of a tank in a setting and situation where that doesn't work or make much sense. He's not some awesome marksman (in fact often relying on shotgun spread and assault rifle spray and pray from the way they make the game feel) which is bad for believing in his soldiering skills. He makes himself a target ,again bad, except theoretically for his allies if he can actually take it and they can't, which doesn't really make sense with the tech levels involved, other than his mastery of that cutesey armor trick to a small degree. He lacks support skills expected of a space marine, like basic tech proficiency and moderate piloting skills. He doesn't show any leadership, diplomacy, tactical, or strategic talents. His known service record seems to be barely completing a mission while getting his entire squad killed, even if that mission was worth the cost, he still got the squad killed, which I'm sure there are better options for people to promote and such in that case. The only dubious reason I can see for him being there is because he was essentially nearby at the time they left Earth, and dubious experience with the Collectors. I have trouble seeing someone with tech proficiency of his implied level even graduating from a future basic (high-school level) education system. I don't see how someone as bad at shuttle piloting as him could have been considered a passable space marine of any sort, regardless of Shepard's (hilarious) theoretical Mako driving skills, as the Mako isn't a simple ship that space-marines would be expected to have basic competence piloting. If he's not a space marine and just a soldier, then he shouldn't have the raking he does in a versatile space-navy like the alliance.
He was also introduced poorly, didn't serve the purpose Bioware claimed he was put in for (exposition excuse for new players), looks pathetic in comparison to most other, especially many of the older characters, seems stereotyped in negative ways that implies Bioware writers actually think poorly of Mexican Americans, and likely even poorly of soldiers in general, and his characterization doesn't match his in-game rank and supposed history, indicating he was written poorly and lazily, and mainly thrown in as eye candy (for bisexuals, straight women, and gay men) and to let Freddie Prinze Jr. voice-act someone.
It was also insulting to fans of the series and older characters that James got a whole new body type and special unique face, and Chobot got a fully rendered unique face, while Tali got a crappy photoshop, female Krogans are male Krogans with a funny headdress, female Salarians are identical to male Salarians, even the full on breeding Daltresses, they still aren't showing female Turians (who are at least shown in the comics), and we seem to be getting all of one human child in a seriously messed up and controversial role. The resources wasted giving James ineffectual muscles which everyone with cybernetics or nice armor laughs at could have been far better spent giving Tali fully rendered face and a picture better than the amateur photoshop job we got of a stock model. Femshep being forced to flirt-back with him, especially ones in relationships, makes his presence become even more insulting, reminding of many similar issues people had with femshep's interactions Jacob if you were not romancing him or already romancing someone else.
He doesn't show any noticeable leadership skills, tactical skills, strategic skills, or anything along those lines in the game that qualifies him as more than a grunt, so I'm left wondering how he got a command ranking (other than to excuse his presence on the Normandy or appease the ego of his voice-actor), not to mention his hints at below standard intelligence as mentioned above. It was laughable that he was even considered for N7 after all that is considered. I might almost excuse it if he was such an utter badass that it made up for his lack of leadership talent, but he's not that impressive there either, he's basically a soldier of slightly above average skills who has mastered the use of a defensive armor trick that screws with your mobility, and whose main specialty in a fight seems to be making himself into a huge target, not exactly a smart idea given the power of many ME weapons, even with his cute armor trick, and the cover-focused system the game encourages.
His muscles are another level that detracts from him, the extra strength granted by muscles that large isn't enough of an advantage, especially when we've left behind swords and bows for guns and grenades, to make up for the loss in flexibility and speed caused by the excess bulk, not to mention the potential extra cost of bulkier than standard armor to fit his rare build, and the larger profile that makes him more of a target and harder to be stealthy and utilize cover. If he really needed the extra strength for combat purposes, cybernetics or special armor exo-skeletal enhancements would be a much more efficient way of gaining such strength, likely without the extra bulk that makes him more of a target. The only excuse I can think of for combat purposes is intimidation factor, and even that is laugh-worthy when you are in a setting like ME, where races like the Krogan are running around making even the best human bodybuilder a joke in comparison, and human males are already stronger and bulkier than most other races besides Krogan, plus he could just use larger armor with strength-boosting exo-skeleton enhancements for the same purpose. The time and effort he spends maintaining that strength could be far better spent on remedial tech skills training and studying tactics, strategy, and diplomacy. In the end, the only excuse for building up his muscles like that is personal vindication and vanity, implying an overblown, delicate ego, of someone desperate for respect, which he actually shows hints of in some of his interactions with Shepard, seeking their approval for his wishy-washy interest in the N7 program, getting the tattoo if he is encouraged to go through with it, and constantly joking around to try and engage others.
His spanglish is another level of irritation, although less at him as a character, potentially, and more at bioware being stupid. We, players, do not necessarily all speak both spanish and english. However, we also don't speak the half-dozen of likely alien languages that are likely being spoken to us, and there are occasional hints that most people aren't even speaking English at all, but some form of Galactic Basic, which is only being translated to the player as English. Either way, we are hearing translatored stuff as a player, which means Bioware should be translating stuff to _all the same language_, even if a character, say some egotistical Salarian, is mixing and matching a dozen different languages while talking to us, we wouldn't realize it because all we are hearing is what comes out of the translator, which either means Bioware is assuming we all know both Spanish and English as players, or, even worse, that Bioware is assuming that Spanish _isn't programmed into the translators_, I could believe it if old Quarian curse words and prayers were skipped over on occasion, especially if they didn't become a part current Quarian language standards until shortly after the Mourning War, as they re-adopted old curse words and prayers from a mostly lost language and mixed it with their standard language, which, due to prejudice against Quarians since then, standard translation programs haven't been updated, but Spanish is a major language on Earth no matter how you cut it, and would likely still be so in the future, meaning that it should be programmed into the translators. Even if James' speech isn't being translated, in fact, especially if it isn't, his language mixing is rude, because some of his words are not understood by those around him, everyone who doesn't know both the languages he is mixing together, the cutesy type of 'private club' childishness involved there is astounding. There is also the possibility he is mixing languages and causing glitches in translators because of that (and Quarians mixing languages is similar case, where they have the old and new Keelish or something confusing the translators when they slip in a Bosh'tet or Keelah'salai), but the pattern of use doesn't seem to fit that, plus he'd have figured out by that point that the language mixing messes with translators, so the only reasons he could be doing it is to mess with people who don't actually know both languages. Claiming racial pride or something like that as a mexican american or something like that would only work if spanglish had solidified into enough of an actual language to deserve it's own translator programs or something, in reality, it is only a form of sloppy language used by poorly educated or purposefully socially isolated (not getting along with others who aren't also spanish and english speakers) mexican americans who speak mostly Spanish at home, but learned bits of English at school or to cope with living in the US, where English is the primary language of most people, and mix languages either because they don't know enough English to communicate fully in that language, or are speaking with mainly Spanish speakers and don't know enough Spanish to fully communicate, or are being purposefully rude/exclusive and trying to only communicate clearly with those who speak both languages. I am of the belief, however, that language evolves, and given trends, and the history of English itself as a language, it is much more likely that an actual Spanglish language would have developed by the point in time the Mass Effect series is set, but that, again, means that the language should be properly translated by the translators unless there is some kind of racisim going on against Spanglish speakers by the people who programmed human languages into the galactic translators, in which case continuing to speak Spanglish either means they are all too stupid/rude to create a program for Spanglish translation and submit it themselves (which is insane to believe), or they purposefully are speaking a language that translators don't cover properly, which is worse. I doubt Bioware put that much thought into it, but it still affects how the character is portrayed in a setting where lore is important. We also have evidence that Shepard does not know Spanish/Spanglish because even Prothean, which is clearly _not_ in the translators as only Shepard seems to properly understand it thanks to the Cipher, is translated to us the players.
Next is the manner in which he behaves towards Shepard which occasionally borders on insubordination after Shepard's rank is re-instated by Anderson, this might almost be excused by their prior (off-screen) relationship during Shepard's time waiting grounded on Earth between ME2 and ME3, during which Shepard was relieved of command and a pseudo-criminal to some degree, as well as the emotional situation with Earth under attack, as well as the fact that he is easily corrected, but he is still often behaving rudely or overly familiar towards a commanding officer, something we don't see the likes of Ashley, Alenko, or even the no-longer-Alliance Jacob. Joker sometimes pushes things with his jokes, but he isn't overly familiar the way James is. Shepard's lack of options to react to this and shut down this behavior makes this even more frustrating for many players, even if you assume Shepard was fine with this while relieved of command, when command was restored, many Shepards should realize that their relationship should change, and remind James of this strictly. The flirting with Femshep without being a romance-able character, and the way it is done, also feels sexist and rude, although I recognize it as harmless, it is still ill-conductive of a proper command structure, even if the Alliance is a much looser military than, say, the US military, in terms of fraternizing regulations, which some chats with Alenko and Ashley in the first game, and Joker in this one, indicate fraternizing _is_ frowned upon, especially within command structures between those of different rank.
I don't have much of a problem with his joking, which, while I didn't find all of it funny all the time, I did find occasionally funny (although he sometimes seemed to be the butt of more jokes than he cracked, such as the omelets with mysterious eggs just after the Krogan left the ship... and interactions with Javik). Nor do I have a problem with having a 'just a soldier' character, which his performance was believable for, but the trying to pretend that this character had a command ranking and was even considered for N7, regardless of some history of a semi-successful intelligence gathering mission vs. the Collectors... well, it just feels shoehorned in because they were trying to make him more impressive on paper, when things shouldn't have worked out that way by the way he is in the game, unless the overall competence levels of the Alliance is _really bad_ and he stands out in comparison... which I actually might believe, especially if you subscribe to the idea that everyone in the galaxy who has been exposed to ME tech is at least mildly exposed to idiot-ball effect and often some forms of mild indoctrination to explain the strange pacing of tech advancement, and the number of times individual groups and the Galaxy at large seems to hold the idiot ball.
James seems to be trying to play the role of a tank in a setting and situation where that doesn't work or make much sense. He's not some awesome marksman (in fact often relying on shotgun spread and assault rifle spray and pray from the way they make the game feel) which is bad for believing in his soldiering skills. He makes himself a target ,again bad, except theoretically for his allies if he can actually take it and they can't, which doesn't really make sense with the tech levels involved, other than his mastery of that cutesey armor trick to a small degree. He lacks support skills expected of a space marine, like basic tech proficiency and moderate piloting skills. He doesn't show any leadership, diplomacy, tactical, or strategic talents. His known service record seems to be barely completing a mission while getting his entire squad killed, even if that mission was worth the cost, he still got the squad killed, which I'm sure there are better options for people to promote and such in that case. The only dubious reason I can see for him being there is because he was essentially nearby at the time they left Earth, and dubious experience with the Collectors. I have trouble seeing someone with tech proficiency of his implied level even graduating from a future basic (high-school level) education system. I don't see how someone as bad at shuttle piloting as him could have been considered a passable space marine of any sort, regardless of Shepard's (hilarious) theoretical Mako driving skills, as the Mako isn't a simple ship that space-marines would be expected to have basic competence piloting. If he's not a space marine and just a soldier, then he shouldn't have the raking he does in a versatile space-navy like the alliance.
He was also introduced poorly, didn't serve the purpose Bioware claimed he was put in for (exposition excuse for new players), looks pathetic in comparison to most other, especially many of the older characters, seems stereotyped in negative ways that implies Bioware writers actually think poorly of Mexican Americans, and likely even poorly of soldiers in general, and his characterization doesn't match his in-game rank and supposed history, indicating he was written poorly and lazily, and mainly thrown in as eye candy (for bisexuals, straight women, and gay men) and to let Freddie Prinze Jr. voice-act someone.
It was also insulting to fans of the series and older characters that James got a whole new body type and special unique face, and Chobot got a fully rendered unique face, while Tali got a crappy photoshop, female Krogans are male Krogans with a funny headdress, female Salarians are identical to male Salarians, even the full on breeding Daltresses, they still aren't showing female Turians (who are at least shown in the comics), and we seem to be getting all of one human child in a seriously messed up and controversial role. The resources wasted giving James ineffectual muscles which everyone with cybernetics or nice armor laughs at could have been far better spent giving Tali fully rendered face and a picture better than the amateur photoshop job we got of a stock model. Femshep being forced to flirt-back with him, especially ones in relationships, makes his presence become even more insulting, reminding of many similar issues people had with femshep's interactions Jacob if you were not romancing him or already romancing someone else.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 12:14
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My brain just overloaded.
You just spent more time writing about Vega than BioWare did writing all of his lines.
You just spent more time writing about Vega than BioWare did writing all of his lines.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 08:18
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What hating James Vega says about you:
You hate James Vega.
You hate James Vega.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 10:05
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Avalon Aurora wrote...
I don't like Vega for a lot of the reasons.......
Relax, if you don’t like a team mate then don’t use them.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 08:27
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I understand my post was too long too read, but you might pick up hints from it that I don't actually mind him as a squad-mate. My issues are more symptomatic of overall writing quality issues in ME3 and to a lesser degree ME2, and the rank he was given. If they'd just made him a regular grunt with no officer ranking I'd have had a lot less issues with him, or if he'd actually shown the competence needed for his ranking, while my other issues relate to possible Bioware writer prejudice against Mexican Americans shown by various aspects of how he was implemented. He's still a fun squad-mate at times.fchopin wrote...
Avalon Aurora wrote...
I don't like Vega for a lot of the reasons.......
Relax, if you don’t like a team mate then don’t use them.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 08:37
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I don't expect to begin the Star Wars saga by watching episode VI first and understand everything.
Likewise people begining the Mass Effect trilogy with episode 3 should not have the plot explained to them with a weak character...
Likewise people begining the Mass Effect trilogy with episode 3 should not have the plot explained to them with a weak character...
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 09:15
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First playthrough I was irritated that this new guy was coming along for the ride. "Where the hell is Garrus", I thought. "When is Tali coming back?"
It wasn't until later that I realized why they had to give us someone we'd never seen before. Anyone who was with us in ME2 could very well be dead. Hell, they could all be dead. I'm still coming to grips with all the work they had to pour into the game just to make that work. Pretty amazing.
Second playthrough I brought Vega along, talked with him when I got the chance, and thought he was really well done.
Starting ME1 again and trying out some of these different scenarios. I left Wrex on the citadel, plan on giving Legion over to Cerberus (*sniff*), never activating Grunt, etc. just to see what happens.
It wasn't until later that I realized why they had to give us someone we'd never seen before. Anyone who was with us in ME2 could very well be dead. Hell, they could all be dead. I'm still coming to grips with all the work they had to pour into the game just to make that work. Pretty amazing.
Second playthrough I brought Vega along, talked with him when I got the chance, and thought he was really well done.
Starting ME1 again and trying out some of these different scenarios. I left Wrex on the citadel, plan on giving Legion over to Cerberus (*sniff*), never activating Grunt, etc. just to see what happens.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 11:11
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Actually, I think Miranda is unkillable in ME2.DeepChild wrote...
It wasn't until later that I realized why they had to give us someone we'd never seen before. Anyone who was with us in ME2 could very well be dead. Hell, they could all be dead.
I think you also have to save at least one other squadmate, you can't quite have them all die. So Miranda and one other person will survive if I remember things correctly, no matter how badly you did, just so long as Shep survives and the game is still importable.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 11:12
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I wanted Vega to say the line: "Bro, do you even lift?"
If he did, he'd be on my awesome character list. Right now he's on my squandered potential list.
If he did, he'd be on my awesome character list. Right now he's on my squandered potential list.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 11:15
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... That you were a nerd in high school that made fun of the jocks at your lunch table.
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Posté 12 novembre 2012 - 11:15
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I was mirin Vega's aesthetics. Zyzz would be proud.
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Posté 13 novembre 2012 - 12:01
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I liked James and am suprised by just how much hate he's gotten. I think a big part of it is because he's a new character in the final chapter of a trilogy and alot of the ME2 cast didn't join your team. "Why did you stick us with this new guy instead of giving us Miranda or Samara or...." ME2 characters did get the short end of the stick in this game but I thought James was one of the better characters on my crew. I don't like either VS, Javik was kinda ehh, and I'm one of the few who didn't care for Tali (loved her in ME1 but increasingly fell out of love as the series went on). James is a good guy and I think Freddy Prince Jr. did an exellent job voicing him (and I didn't really care for Jr.)
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Posté 13 novembre 2012 - 12:11
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I like Vega, I think he was a genuine dude and a real friend. But the backlash that he gets on BSN is because of the simple fact that most people on BSN are douchebags.
But I didn't have to tell anybody that.
But I didn't have to tell anybody that.
