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[justinblac]

It's a co-op game, so I find the glitch to be annoying at worst.  The part that really makes me mad is the chance (even if it is small) of me getting banned because some d-bag sucks at this game but wants to play with the big dogs (I'm only a medium dog btw ).

[staindgrey]

I wouldn't have minded too much before the patch that kicked you for being AFK. If I could just go away and do something else while a random person decides to glitch, whatever.

But what pisses me off is that I have to suffer the amount of time this match takes to get my credits, XP and not waste my equipment, all while bored as hell because some jackass who thinks this is fun decided to glitch himself and throw missiles around like candy.

That is not fun for anyone else. It's boring as ****. Go do it in a private match and leave me out of it.

[WizenSlinky0]

The only plan Bioware should have is fixing the glitch that is causing the problem. If your own code is being used to shoot unlimited missiles you can't really blame the players for using it.

[Rebel_Raven]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The only plan Bioware should have is fixing the glitch that is causing the problem. If your own code is being used to shoot unlimited missiles you can't really blame the players for using it.

Actually, I can, and do blame them for using the missile glitch. I'm very much not the only person with that mindset, too.

They need to stop people from abusing it to get credits while they fix it.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 17 juillet 2012 - 08:14 .

[Heather-Shepard]

Carbon-based wrote...

nemesisdivina-vow wrote...

The other night was the first time I played with someone using the missile glitch. I wasn't too bothered by it, since it is co-op and the whole team benefits from the credit bonuses, not to mention it practically guarantees extraction on gold. I just tried to stay away from the person so that I could get in my own kills where I could, otherwise the match would have been incredibly boring. The other teammates obviously didn't mind either, since they stuck around for 3 matches until the glitcher finally left the lobby. It was pretty funny actually, the couple times when the glitcher dropped.. I found it amusing how fast everyone bolted to revive him/her! We got 3 full extractions in a row on gold (in half the time a gold match would normally take) and got a nice credit boost.

I personally like challenge and get no satisfaction out of of cheating. However, its coop. So if someone cheats, the team benefits. After playing with cheaters in competitive multiplayer games like Halo, which is insanely frustrating, it doesn't seem like as big of a deal to me. I'm not cheating, so I don't have to worry about getting banned.

If it was something that happened all the time, I would get annoyed though. It took the challenge away and made the matches pretty boring. But I play matches almost every day and only every encountered it this one time.

Uhhhhh as far as I've read you're considered to be in the same pool as that cheater now, too, since you're supposed to leave the lobby right after a single game with a missile-glitcher that you're aware of. That "nice credit boost" after the initial game with the cheater is a "post-match effect" on your account -

Thomas Abram wrote...

TA has stated before that you can finish the match so you don't waste your consumables, but leave the lobby right after. 

Thomas Abram wrote...

Right now, we're okay with players finishing their match if people are exploiting the infinite missile glitch. However, if you stay in the lobby after said game then you will be considered in the same pool as the cheater(s).

Thomas Abram wrote...

There is no expectation that players will report others nor will we ever reprimand a player for not reporting someone (as long as there was no post-match effects on their account).

Andrew Leung wrote...

We do check for multiple offenses, which is why people are able to stay within a single game with cheaters and not suffer reprecussions.

I don't know where you dug up all those quotes, but most people are not aware they are doing anything wrong if they are not actually using the glitch themselves... which is a reasonable assumption.  Not everyone has the time to research all the 'rules and regulations' of something that is seldomly even encountered anyway.  I have never heard of TA either, but I find it really amusing that you care so much that I played 3 lousy matches with someone else who was glitching that you took the time to cut and paste all those quotes and carefully bold specific lines to make it look as bad as possible.  A link and a (nicely worded) sentence or two would have been less time consuming.  I just wanted to share my (only) experience with missile glitching and my opinion, since the thread was asking for opinions on the matter.  Thank you for reminding me why I usually avoid posting in forums.

[ToaOrka]

I wouldn't mind if someone just wanted to see what it did one time, but repeated use is a no-no.

[khannoir]

http://social.biowar.../index/13192115 Says all that needs to be said about missile glitchers... Good-bye

[Morthasa]

I have never encountered missile glitchers so far, is it a console-specific bug?

[InfamousResult]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The only plan Bioware should have is fixing the glitch that is causing the problem. If your own code is being used to shoot unlimited missiles you can't really blame the players for using it.

No, you definitely can.

Abusing bugs has ALWAYS been considered cheating in any online game. This isn't new. Bioware didn't pull this out of their collective backsides. It is, most definitely, cheating- and as such, is the player's fault for abusing it. Just because a LOT of people are a bunch of jackwads doesn't somehow make them less of jackwads, and it doesn't make it Bioware's fault that they, the cheaters, did something wrong.

Making a mistake, like missing a bug, is "okay, yeah, my bad".

ABUSING a mistake somebody made, is "okay wow what a jerk".

Cheaters get what they get.

[Clayless]

Bout time this got fixed now though.

[Kick In The Door]

I feel that it's just a hiccup.

Opportunists gonna opportune.

[khannoir]

Morthasa wrote...

I have never encountered missile glitchers so far, is it a console-specific bug?

Yea...it nvolved using certain wepons and manipulating certain buttons on the controllers... Pretty pathetic actually and deserving of the banhammer.

[Morthasa]

khannoir wrote...

Morthasa wrote...

I have never encountered missile glitchers so far, is it a console-specific bug?

Yea...it nvolved using certain wepons and manipulating certain buttons on the controllers... Pretty pathetic actually and deserving of the banhammer.

Then I can stop worrying about it :happy:. Thanks.

[Lord Rosario]

InfamousResult wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The only plan Bioware should have is fixing the glitch that is causing the problem. If your own code is being used to shoot unlimited missiles you can't really blame the players for using it.

No, you definitely can.

Abusing bugs has ALWAYS been considered cheating in any online game. This isn't new. Bioware didn't pull this out of their collective backsides. It is, most definitely, cheating- and as such, is the player's fault for abusing it. Just because a LOT of people are a bunch of jackwads doesn't somehow make them less of jackwads, and it doesn't make it Bioware's fault that they, the cheaters, did something wrong.

Making a mistake, like missing a bug, is "okay, yeah, my bad".

ABUSING a mistake somebody made, is "okay wow what a jerk".

Cheaters get what they get.

Yes, abusing the system is bad. There shoudl be concequences for abusing the system. Agreed. But, the problem should also be fixed. Telling people that they will  be banned for exploiting a glitch and then not fixing the glitch is just douchebaggery. Especially when there are so freaking many of these glitches... It's getting realy old really fast hearing about all these bugs, glitches, and loop holes in the game, and yet so very very few of them have actually been fixed or even recognized that they are going to fix them in the near future.

[InfamousResult]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Yes, abusing the system is bad. There shoudl be concequences for abusing the system. Agreed. But, the problem should also be fixed. Telling people that they will  be banned for exploiting a glitch and then not fixing the glitch is just douchebaggery. Especially when there are so freaking many of these glitches... It's getting realy old really fast hearing about all these bugs, glitches, and loop holes in the game, and yet so very very few of them have actually been fixed or even recognized that they are going to fix them in the near future.

Assuming that they are not working towards a fix is just that- an assumption.

It's also a pretty silly assumption, considering they tried to put out a patch already. If you are implying that they actually put the patch out knowing that it didn't fix anything, that's asinine; they had to spend $40,000 to put that patch out just on the 360, and for what? A few people to think it was fixed for less than a day? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay 40k to put a patch out that I knew wouldn't work.

So no, I believe they are trying to patch it. And yes, I believe they should keep banning for abusing the bugs up until, and after they patch it ( so yes, even after the bug is patched, I expect the people who abused it to be banned anyway ).

[Calmdawg]

I actually played a game with my friend, an atlas was coming up on me and I switched to missles, fired one and switched back to my kyrsea. At that point my missle went through the floor near the atlas and a grunt walked over me in midair, I realized I was in a lag spike and took cover and the next thing I knew I was hovering over the map, invincible and now my krysea was shooting missles, I had to stop after two shots realizing that I was glitched outta the map, couldn't get killed, and was shooting missles. Now my question is I was lagging and this happened, I should just stop shooting due to it being missles and not krysea rounds because I fear being banned...... No I shouldn't, because I didn't even know of the glitch then, and I didn't realize what was happening with my krysea. Now the people doing it on purpose yes ban them, but how can you keep the lag from making it happen with honest krysea users and tell them to sit out the rest of the match? It's happened 3 times since then because both our nats are moderate and it makes some retarded lag happen at points. And every time i've stopped shooting after it says my krysea is a missle launcher, but it's crippling my team because I can walk and do everything normally (Aside from the first match making me invincible) but I can't fire my gun cause it says it's a missle launcher, and the only thing I do is pull out the missle launcher during hairy moments, shoot it, and then hit X to switch to my normal weapon and then I find out it's lagged and now it's a missle launcher all the time. So why have they not fixed it seeing as how it can happen at any time during a lag spike, and then I have to sit there and do nothing for my team the entire time due to this being a bug and me not wanting the randoms, nor myself from getting banned.

Modifié par Calmdawg, 18 juillet 2012 - 08:30 .

[orols187]

i just saw three other guys using the glitch is there any place where i can report them?

[Lord Rosario]

InfamousResult wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Yes, abusing the system is bad. There shoudl be concequences for abusing the system. Agreed. But, the problem should also be fixed. Telling people that they will  be banned for exploiting a glitch and then not fixing the glitch is just douchebaggery. Especially when there are so freaking many of these glitches... It's getting realy old really fast hearing about all these bugs, glitches, and loop holes in the game, and yet so very very few of them have actually been fixed or even recognized that they are going to fix them in the near future.

Assuming that they are not working towards a fix is just that- an assumption.

It's also a pretty silly assumption, considering they tried to put out a patch already. If you are implying that they actually put the patch out knowing that it didn't fix anything, that's asinine; they had to spend $40,000 to put that patch out just on the 360, and for what? A few people to think it was fixed for less than a day? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't pay 40k to put a patch out that I knew wouldn't work.

So no, I believe they are trying to patch it. And yes, I believe they should keep banning for abusing the bugs up until, and after they patch it ( so yes, even after the bug is patched, I expect the people who abused it to be banned anyway ).

I'm sorry, but did I miss the attempted patch of every exploitable glitch in the game and also the ones that harm gameplay? I really doubt it. The fact that there are four sticky threads about cheating and banning and not a single one about what they are actively, or even thinking about, doing to fix the long list of bugs is concerning to me... Now, it's entirely possible I missed something, but I only remember one title update for this game that was implimented. Is it too much to ask for some updates on important things like potential fixes for glitches and stuff instead of so many negative "Look at all the people we just banned ocer something" posts here on the forums?

[RyanSoup]

I like the glitch, personally. Makes the game a lot less tedious

I think BW's response is stupid, though. Because they can't patch it, they ban for exploiting their own crappy, half-done work. Heard it makes Platinum a breeze though

[InfamousResult]

Lord Rosario wrote...

I'm sorry, but did I miss the attempted patch of every exploitable glitch in the game and also the ones that harm gameplay? I really doubt it. The fact that there are four sticky threads about cheating and banning and not a single one about what they are actively, or even thinking about, doing to fix the long list of bugs is concerning to me... Now, it's entirely possible I missed something, but I only remember one title update for this game that was implimented. Is it too much to ask for some updates on important things like potential fixes for glitches and stuff instead of so many negative "Look at all the people we just banned ocer something" posts here on the forums?

If that's your problem, go make a request thread or something for them to vocalize the problem better, don't just accuse them of not doing anything. They have to be careful about title updates, because they can't just throw money down the toilet every week/month just to figure out that the patch didn't fix anything again-- and actually caused more problems, in case you don't remember.

That, OR you're actually asking them to be LESS vocal about their policy on cheating / banning. That's also how your post is coming off.

RyanSoup wrote...

I like the glitch, personally. Makes the game a lot less tedious

I think BW's response is stupid, though. Because they can't patch it, they ban for exploiting their own crappy, half-done work. Heard it makes Platinum a breeze though

They do EXACTLY what they told you they'd do in the ToS. If you don't like it, you just plain don't agree to the ToS, and you don't play the game. That's how online services work. Better yet, I suggest that people just not cheat. It's obviously not impossible. We obviously have players not cheating. It's not Bioware's fault that some people have bad character.

Modifié par InfamousResult, 18 juillet 2012 - 03:48 .

[Upfunkt]

RyanSoup wrote...

I like the glitch, personally. Makes the game a lot less tedious

I think BW's response is stupid, though. Because they can't patch it, they ban for exploiting their own crappy, half-done work. Heard it makes Platinum a breeze though

If you're only playing for credits, what's the point in playing at all? If you find multiplayer tedious, then why punish yourself by playing it? This glitch takes all the fun out of the game as it no longer presents a challenge. If cheaters need to use this glitch to win on gold/platinum then they must be pretty awful without it. I got through my first platinum match with full extraction two nights ago and while it wasn't as fun as gold, I gotta say I'm proud that I was able to do it with a great team and not one cheater present.
Cheaters deserve to be banned and lose all of their gear because they ruin the experience for the rest of the community. They didn't earn any of the gear they've unlocked like everyone else and it's better if they just disappear. What's funny is, they probably think they'll get a lot better when they've unlocked weapons like the BW but if they're as useless as I suspect then having the biggest gun is not gonna win them matches.

[RyanSoup]

Upfunkt wrote...
If you're only playing for credits, what's the point in playing at all? If you find multiplayer tedious, then why punish yourself by playing it? This glitch takes all the fun out of the game as it no longer presents a challenge. If cheaters need to use this glitch to win on gold/platinum then they must be pretty awful without it. I got through my first platinum match with full extraction two nights ago and while it wasn't as fun as gold, I gotta say I'm proud that I was able to do it with a great team and not one cheater present.
Cheaters deserve to be banned and lose all of their gear because they ruin the experience for the rest of the community. They didn't earn any of the gear they've unlocked like everyone else and it's better if they just disappear. What's funny is, they probably think they'll get a lot better when they've unlocked weapons like the BW but if they're as useless as I suspect then having the biggest gun is not gonna win them matches.

It's still fun with the glitch
It just sort of evens the playing field
All of the weapons are so weak as it is;  it's stupid, how many clips I go through just to down two or three enemies on higher difficulties.  I don't see where the challenge is there.  If anything, it's a test of patience.

[kevosama]

Maybe they should un-ban the people they banned for using the missile glitch after they have it fixed. That's probably giving the cheaters too much credit, but it is another option.

[pyroboy2290]

Honestly? I'd love to play a few platinum games with missile glitchers, I love easy credits and I don't mind not being able to kill much. Although I can definitely see why they could ruin a game for people, not being able to do much in a game would be quite frustrating for most people.

[Meatiershower]

orols187 wrote...

i just saw three other guys using the glitch is there any place where i can report them?

Sticky, top of MP page.