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[djspectre]

This was brought up in another thread on an unrelated topic, but I thought I'd mention it in a separate post.

I don't see why people are so worried about how high their N7 rating is, or why they use it to judge other players.

The rating essentially is useless. The thought goes that if you have a low score (ie. 20), you must be a bad player, right? Or that if you have a low score that you don't have the weapons/mods/supplies to be useful and thus are a team weakness, right? Or that you haven't played enough classes to understand the game mechanics, right? Or some other reason?

I've played hundreds and hundreds of hours of multiplayer since March 6th. Until last week, I had an N7 of 20. Why? Because I only used my human soldier. And I never promoted him. 

Why?

Because I really don't like playing the other classes at all. I've got game saves in the Single player with all 6 classes, and I only liked the soldier. So when it came to Multiplayer, thats all I played. To me all the bonus xp and character cards were just wasted.

 And, I firmly believed in the fact that the Single Player should have been able to get the breath ending without promotion. So I refused to promote. 

However, even having all those supplies is still not indicative of a players skill because someone could just spend thousands of $ on BW points and buy a full inventory. 

So while I really don't care that I get kicked from matches with my level 79 N7 rating (I made two infiltrators and an engineer for fun, but have no interest in ever playing them), I just find it funny that so many people still think that your N7 rating actually measures something at all. 


 *UPDATE*
A better idea, would be to show a players match history. How many matches played, how many lone survivor, partial/full extractions and on which game difficulties. maybe even some stats on your enemies (ie 40% success vs Geth, 21% success vs Reaper, 99% success vs cerberus). 

THOSE stats would make a big difference in determining who knows what up in a match. 

Modifié par djspectre, 17 juillet 2012 - 01:22 .

[Elotana]

No one cares.

A player with a low N7 rating is far more likely to be bad than be a special never-promoting snowflake.

[HEEGZ]

I'd love to see those stats added. I ended up grinding my N7 rank of around 500 or so up to 1000+ just so I wouldn't be randomly booted from lobbies for having a low N7 rank. I go by load outs in the lobbby, not N7 number when deciding whether or not to boot. I rarely do that anyways, as I usually play with friends and we don't mind carrying a random or two

Modifié par HEEGZ, 17 juillet 2012 - 01:27 .

[SomeKindaEnigma]

People with low N7 ratings generally have lower-level equipment, weapons, gear, etc because they're not as experienced. I don't doubt anyone's ability to play the game, but sometimes the gear does matter.

[SeaJayX]

I refuse to play with anyone under N7 9,000.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Welcome to 4 months ago

[Jinchurikigaara]

Personally, I only kick low N7-ranked people if I'm running Giant/<Whatever>/Gold and someone runs in with an exceptionally low N7 rank, a non-17-20 character, and/or equipped with crap. Its usually the equipment that shows me how well a person is playing, if they have a higher-leveled character. If you've been running a single character since you started, you should still have better than an Avenger X with an Extended Barrel 1 and an SMG gear.

[Rebel_Raven]

You're right in saying your n7 doesn't matter. I'd rather look at your equipment, and the difficulty. I'm not gunna be able to see "skill" and with ego clouding judgements, I'd rather not take a person's word for it.

[ShadowRanger88]

I don't care if you have played how many matches with how many successes. If you are ever in my gold lobby <120 will be kicked regardless of weapon loadout/skill (unless you ask politely and ask me to carry you so I can actually prepare.) And soon < 300 will be kicked for platinum.

Modifié par ShadowRanger88, 17 juillet 2012 - 01:32 .

[Whlte Rlder]

N7 is not a guage of ability on it's own, but it IS a good guideline.

My N7 is low (compared to most around here - N7 210) I don't promote. But I've played since release and consider myself to be a really good player. I don't post often but Drummernate, Arkley, and Godless have all seen me play. I'm sure they can vouch for me...

I however am wary of playing with people around my "level" and below because the simple fact is MOST people that play this game suck.

I don't go by N7 alone though. If I am worried aboud a particular player I'll check their class/weapons.

Sometimes I may even ask them about their build and offer advice.




...But yeah... Most people suck.

[Flowlord]

In general I refuse to kick players unless it takes them forever to get ready.
Most players who are not ready for gold will leave after a game or two anyway.

[iampaynetrayne]

I play with a girl that is only ranked about 150. To be honest I would take her over most people in the 500-1000 range because she knows how to play smart and uses great teamwork on gold. To say that N7 rank doesnt matter at all though is drastic. The majority of lower ranked n7 players run around without strategy or come into a gold lobby with an avenger and some other weapon completely destroying any cooldown bonus. I would say that gear and weapons are important, but experience is also crucial. I rarely boot from a gold lobby regardless of n7 rank. Unless they refuse to use any equipment and do not throw any missiles or med gel at crucial points in previous games.

[Ranger3bn]

Most players do NOT kick for low N7 rank rather low character level, low equipment levels, low weapons levels or ineffective weapon vs type of enemies , and no Mic.

I am not sure where you are running into problems understanding the above concept however, the quicker you gain this understanding the better off this forum will be. I am not trying to be a butt about things however how many of these topics do we need to see?

The best advise I can give you is to become more sociable when playing online. Making new friends online will lessen the amount of times you have to play with PUGs if not you'll continue to get kick for whatever reason someone can come up with.

[DarkOrgasm]

One of the benefits of promoting all classes at least a few times is"

- you get a chance to see how a class is played and what gun may work well with it
- you get to see how it synergizes with other classes
- you get to understand the merits of all classes against all factions, good and bad
- you have a better chance of possibly not getting kicked if you are asked to change to a different class to better compliment the team, even if you don't play it as well as your go to class,since if you join as a random, nobody knows you are the Awesome Commander Shepard and can kill in seconds anything with your biotic toothpick as you cater to your LI in the LZ

[Vault Boy X360]

I think anyone below 10 should not be in a silver match and anyone below 50 should not be in a gold match. It's easy to get 50 with just character cards from playing silver wth a level 20 (one gold card=7 levels and next subsequent~4 levels). Once that's done I look at equipment. If I see stupid loadouts, such as heavy weapons on an adept, then I say no and leave. That's about it.

Modifié par Vault Boy X360, 17 juillet 2012 - 01:52 .

[Jinchurikigaara]

Unless they refuse to use any equipment and do not throw any missiles or med gel at crucial points in previous games.

THIS. Good lord. I don't care what your N7 rating or equipment loadout is at all. If you're not willing to use your "valuable resources" to help the team win far more than enough money to cover the minor consumables expendatures it takes to make it through a match, I have absolutely no desire to play with you further, and will boot you out of my games.

It frustrates the hell out of me when people just absolutely refuse to use consumables. And don't get me wrong. I won't medigel before wave 5. If the game is having that kind of problems that early on, it isn't going to finish. But on Wave 8 when everything goes to hell, and you're the last man standing against an Atlas, a Phantom or two, and maybe a Combat Engineer and you want to Master Chief them all without spending a missile or medigel because you think you're top ****, I don't want to play with you.

[LULZferBAKON]

The minimum N7 before I take someone seriously is 200. If I see someone with only 20, I'm definetly going to think its someone who just picked the multiplayer up.

[Vault Boy X360]

I would like to add that I never even thought of Gold matches till around 150-200, and didn't do them regularly till 300.

[Cyonan]

Those stats wont mean a whole lot either. Unless I have the capability to solo gold, then my win % is going to be largely affected by the other 3 members of my team, which in a random I don't have control over. All it's going to do is result in people kicking more so they don't risk ruining their win % so other people don't kick them. At no point does it really show off how knowledgeable or how skilled of a player you are.

[Legendaryred]

Well, i been 300 since ME3 came out, just got to 400 lately this past week. However, I usually play gold and when i see players with an n7 rating of 68 and a lvl 20 it makes me weary. 90% of the time they're just newbies and not the guy who never promotes.

[.458]

I don't personally care about N7. But just so you know, if you give a name to any of your non-20-but-over-1 characters, they count towards N7. Those character cards will raise N7 this way...otherwise a level 19 that you never played won't count. Name just one character of the class, and it counts. You can get to 120 playing a single character and using cards to get all others to level 20.

Once a player reaches N7 of 120, there is no possibility of ever using it to know anything more about the player. I had all my rares maxed and a good collection of ultra rare before I ever promoted after 120. There is an old saying...do you have 10 years of experience at something, or did you repeat 1 year 10 times over? N7 will never answer that.

Modifié par .458, 17 juillet 2012 - 01:56 .

[WARMACHINE9]

N7 doesn't mean squat. It's just some thing for people to fight about on BSN and to have e-peen contests with. It means next to nothing unless you give it meaning; In which case your a very sad or very stupid person.

[z e r 0]

Personally I'd be more inclined to kick the guy that refuses to play anything other than Human Soldier over a low n7 level player.

[Anders028]

 If you come into my game with n7 120 and your using a claymore, krysae, etc. you don't get voted.  Come in with n7 120 with Phaeston 1 or Geth Pulse Rifle 1 you get kicked.  This is based on playing Gold btw

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

n7 rating doesn't matter. promoting only helps your single player game. i'm on 330 and i have all ( except for ultra rares) fully upgraded weapons and gear and that's because i play alot and spend credits. i've seen people on 120 with high level gear and do very well. they just don't feel the need to promote they're characters. i only do it if i get bored or want to level someone up a different way. as for equipment bonuses, i rarely use them now on silver simply because i don't need to. i do equip stuff on gold definately.