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[jlb524]

 

Joy Divison wrote...

You DONT see what's political about race?!?  Sorry, we can't have a discussion then.

It's not necessarily political, though it can be.

There are valid reasons why people may want more ethnic diversity other than some kind of "agenda".

Joy Divison wrote...
Within that commentary is the assumption that I, too, as a white person also make assumptions based on skin because whether or not I realize it I live in a privileged society which benefits me.  OK I'll be a bit more serious. Don't make assumptions on people based on their skin color.  It's not cool.  Don't flatly call white people racists because they don't do something which matches your socio-political world view and then tell them how they should think.  That's not really cool either.

I don't think she was doing this at all.

Her comment was about society and not individual white people and she never said that white people are inherently racist which would be the same as saying that if you are born with light skin, you will automatically be racist regardless of the type of society you are born into.

Plus, honestly, it's not just white people who perpetuate systemic racism...they just typically benefit from it even if they don't want it.

[Xilizhra]

Zkyire wrote...

I love how nobody's even talking about in-game reasons anymore and are just shouting accusations of racism.

I also love the hypocrisy of a few people here. Bioware does a game loosely inspired by East Asia (Jade Empire)? You're all perfectly silent. Bioware then do a game loosely inspired by Europe? "WHITE PRIVILEGE! PREJUDICE! RACIST!"

It's a bloody miracle this thread hasn't been locked yet, especially considering a few posters have actually called the people at Bioware racist themselves.

I personally do not care which human ethnicities appear in which places. However, I find that several other people  who don't care are being unnecessarily dismissive of those who do.

[LobselVith8]

Zkyire wrote...

I love how nobody's even talking about in-game reasons anymore and are just shouting accusations of racism.

I also love the hypocrisy of a few people here. Bioware does a game loosely inspired by East Asia (Jade Empire)? You're all perfectly silent. Bioware then do a game loosely inspired by Europe? "WHITE PRIVILEGE! PREJUDICE! RACIST!"

It's a bloody miracle this thread hasn't been locked yet, especially considering a few posters have actually called the people at Bioware racist themselves.

You seem to be irate that people have a different opinion than you do.

Also, people have been addressing the lack of diversity in Dragon Age, and the claim about Dragon Age being loosely inspired by Medieval Europe was already addressed on the last page by LiquidGrape:

LiquidGrape wrote...

As for the matter of ethnicity in Dragon Age, the defense of BioWare's expressed vision of Thedas kinda falters when their analogue is quite so flawed, particularly since its relation to Medieval Europe has been purported as an explanation as to why the populace of the series is so predominantly white.

All you have to do is look up the Moors in order to realise that Medieval Europe bore little resemblance to the whitewashed affair our contemporary popular culture has managed to render it. And they were far from the only peoples of colour prevalent in that particular time and place.
Romani, Ottoman Turks, a variety of North African peoples, not to mention the Mongolian tribes which were absorbed into the societies and peoples they assimilated. The list goes on, and then I haven't even touched upon the slave trade which, if not as widespread as it had been in years past, was still enforced.

Dragon Age is by no means the only perpetrator of this kind of erasure, nor is it nearly the worst. It gave us Isabela, after all, who I maintain is among the best characters I have encountered in any form of media. But considering just how deliberate BioWare usually is in their world building, the apparent failure to acknowledge the ethnical diversity of their supposed model is something of a disappointment.

And therefore, a perfectly legitimate subject for criticism.

[jlb524]

Zkyire wrote...
I also love the hypocrisy of a few people here. Bioware does a game loosely inspired by East Asia (Jade Empire)? You're all perfectly silent. Bioware then do a game loosely inspired by Europe? "WHITE PRIVILEGE! PREJUDICE! RACIST!"

If a person is unhappy with white privilege and how it affects media, why would they be upset about Jade Empire?

Your comment makes little sense.

[Chris Priestly]

Ok, well off track (after a good start by the OP and original responders) and closed.


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