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[darthoptimus003]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...
Even if you're content with the endings, it's opening up the game more, you shouldn't be against that.

They'd have to crank out more choices with positive and negative aspects to keep the whole thing balanced.  Seems like a waste of time considering the game is complete.  Time for the developers to move on.

its really not if they left it open to our imagination
which i DID NOT spend $300+ on this series to imagine an ending
and im not the only one
but if it opens more story options what is the problem
if they do no one has to pick it if they dont want to thats what the pro-enders dont get the choice is yours
the ones that want that choice dont get it which is why some are still pissed
but all this is my opion

[Geneaux486]

which i DID NOT spend $300+ on this series to imagine an ending

The endings are quite conclusive, especially with EC.

[AresKeith]

no the endings aren't conclusive control has you enslaving the Geth along with the Reapers, Bioware wants you to headcanon the Destroy ending because there too lazy and can't even decide if Shepard ives or dies, and Synthesis shouldn't even be a choice

[Geneaux486]

AresKeith wrote...

no the endings aren't conclusive control has you enslaving the Geth along with the Reapers, Bioware wants you to headcanon the Destroy ending because there too lazy and can't even decide if Shepard ives or dies, and Synthesis shouldn't even be a choice

Nothing is said about the Geth being enslaved.  They added the scene of Shepard breathing to show that he did live.  Synthesis should be a choice.  The only aspect that isn't as conclusive as it could be is Shepard's fate if he lives.

[darthoptimus003]

Geneaux486 wrote...

which i DID NOT spend $300+ on this series to imagine an ending

The endings are quite conclusive, especially with EC.

in destroy we have a breath scene wow that really tells me something  NOT
the devs even said as much "we wanted people to use their imaginations"
COP OUT plain and simple

[AresKeith]

Geneaux486 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

no the endings aren't conclusive control has you enslaving the Geth along with the Reapers, Bioware wants you to headcanon the Destroy ending because there too lazy and can't even decide if Shepard ives or dies, and Synthesis shouldn't even be a choice

Nothing is said about the Geth being enslaved.  They added the scene of Shepard breathing to show that he did live.  Synthesis should be a choice.  The only aspect that isn't as conclusive as it could be is Shepard's fate if he lives.

Whats to stop Shreaper from doing what the Reapers were doing for billions of years. If that was true then why is half of Bioware constantly saying he lives or its his last breathe. and why should Synthesis be a choices, since your forcing them to change without there consent in that matter?

[The_Crazy_Hand]

AresKeith wrote...

no the endings aren't conclusive control has you enslaving the Geth along with the Reapers, Bioware wants you to headcanon the Destroy ending because there too lazy and can't even decide if Shepard ives or dies, and Synthesis shouldn't even be a choice

This.

[darthoptimus003]

and if people ar willing to pay for it {like me} why not give us the refusal victory
not saying there are but maybe some are idk

[AresKeith]

and I'm sure adding on to an ending isn't gonna hurt anyone, so why get pissy about it

[darthoptimus003]

can some one come up with a poll asking if the devs ofered a refusal vitory would people pay for it id really like to see the results of that and hell maybe the devs would to because if enough said yeah
:PAYDAY BABY:

[RiouHotaru]

Breaking news:

Fans hate player agency.

People don't want to decide for themselves what happens to their Shepard, they want Bioware to tell them.

Even after knowing the galaxy turns out alright, it's still not explicit enough

[darthoptimus003]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Breaking news:

Fans hate player agency.

People don't want to decide for themselves what happens to their Shepard, they want Bioware to tell them.

Even after knowing the galaxy turns out alright, it's still not explicit enough

then what was the point of spending money on a game if you have to imagine the end
could have saved money and thought up my own
but why should i if i paid them to tell me

[The_Crazy_Hand]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Breaking news:

Fans hate player agency.

People don't want to decide for themselves what happens to their Shepard, they want Bioware to tell them.

Even after knowing the galaxy turns out alright, it's still not explicit enough

It's called culture, we are NOT the Japanese, and so ambiguity is simply not going to work.  Even if it did, they did it wrong.  If you want an example of well written vaguness, try the SMT games.

[AlanC9]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...
Even if you're content with the endings, it's opening up the game more, you shouldn't be against that.

They'd have to crank out more choices with positive and negative aspects to keep the whole thing balanced.  Seems like a waste of time considering the game is complete.  Time for the developers to move on.

Ah, but you're missing the point. The whole point of the proposal is to not balance the choices and therefore avoid having to make a tough decision. 

@ RiouHotaru. I hope you're wrong, but fear you're right.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:10 .

[Geneaux486]

Whats to stop Shreaper from doing what the Reapers were doing for billions of years.

The control epilogue clearly states that Shepard's motives and morals were preserved when he or she took control, so the reality is that your Shepard would still do what your Shepard would always do, whatever that may be. That aspect is subjective, though it's stated that Shepard kept the Reapers in check in the end.

should Synthesis be a choices, since your forcing them to change without there consent in that matter?

Why should players have the option to side with Anoleis, getting both him and a good agent killed in the process? Why should players have the option not to try to warn the Batarians that their relay is about to kill them all? Why should players have the option to spare Morinth and kill Samara? You're taking it for granted that an option shouldn't exist in the game because you personally find it distasteful. The fact is that synthesis is a happy ending. The upgrades are widely embraced and there's no implication that they're brainwashed or homogenized or anything like that, so why should Bioware remove a choice based on your assumptions about its implications when nothing of the sort is stated or implied in the game itself?

Ah, but you're missing the point. The whole point of the proposal is to not balance the choices and avoid having to make a tough decision.

Yep.

Modifié par Geneaux486, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:14 .

[AresKeith]

[quote]Geneaux486 wrote...




[quote]Whats to stop Shreaper from doing what the Reapers were doing for billions of years.[/quote]

The control epilogue clearly states that Shepard's motives and morals were preserved when he or she took control, so the reality is that your Shepard would still do what your Shepard would always do, whatever that may be. That aspect is subjective, though it's stated that Shepard kept the Reapers in check in the end. [quote]


that isn't even Shepard anymore thats the Catalyst with part of Shepards mind everything about that person is gone. Also with the Leviathan DLC is shows a Rogue Reaper that by itself proves that Shreaper can't control them, which makes Control flawed like the other endings.

I'm not telling you to not like the endings btw, these are why I don't accept them

Modifié par AresKeith, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:21 .

[Geneaux486]

that isn't even Shepard anymore thats the Catalyst with part of Shepards mind everything about that person is gone

Never stated or implied in the game, false.

Also with the Leviathan DLC is shows a Rogue Reaper that by itself proves that Shreaper can't control them, which makes Control flawed like the other endings.

Logical fallacy. The conlcusion you've reached isn't supported by the evidence you've submitted.

I'm not telling you to not like the endings btw

I know. It wouldn't matter if you were.

[liggy002]

Nero Narmeril wrote...

I found at least four quotes from game saying the Reapers cannot be defeat conventionaly (Hackett, EDI, Garrus, Liara), so how do you imagine this?

Maybe they're all wrong.  So, because of who they are, they must be right?

[AresKeith]

Geneaux486 wrote...

that isn't even Shepard anymore thats the Catalyst with part of Shepards mind everything about that person is gone

Never stated or implied in the game, false.

Also with the Leviathan DLC is shows a Rogue Reaper that by itself proves that Shreaper can't control them, which makes Control flawed like the other endings.

Logical fallacy. The conlcusion you've reached isn't supported by the evidence you've submitted.

I'm not telling you to not like the endings btw

I know. It wouldn't matter if you were.

so Shreaper saying " The man/women I once was" does ring something in your head that thats not Shepard anymore, and the Starbrat even said that itself

its been said be everyone already that its about a Rogue Reaper

[Geneaux486]

so Shreaper saying " The man/women I once was" does ring something in your head that thats not Shepard anymore, and the Starbrat even said that itself

He's not a man/woman anymore. We saw his body evaporate, so that much is obvious. The mind is preserved, and Shepard's personality is preserved, as are his ideals.

its been said be everyone already that its about a Rogue Reaper

And? It's pre-Crucible, so what bearing does that have on something that's post-Crucible, which creates new possibilities?

Modifié par Geneaux486, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:38 .

[AresKeith]

Geneaux486 wrote...

so Shreaper saying " The man/women I once was" does ring something in your head that thats not Shepard anymore, and the Starbrat even said that itself

He's not a man/woman anymore. We saw his body evaporate, so that much is obvious. The mind is preserved, and Shepard's personality is preserved, as are his ideals.

its been said be everyone already that its about a Rogue Reaper

And? It's pre-Crucible, so what bearing does that have on something that's post-Crucible, which creates new possibilities?

1. only his mind is preserved, the Starbrat says this when it tells of the control option, everything else that was Shepard is gone

2. Because the Shepard AI is still Catalyst, and it claims it controls the Reapers, but the Leviathan is rogue.

new possibilities meant the three choices

Modifié par AresKeith, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:42 .

[3DandBeyond]

AlanC9 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...
I will repeat it again.  The crucible was originally supposed to be a dark energy weapon which could manipulate Mass effect fields and lower the mass of objects in the field.  Reapers on a planet lower their mass which weakens their kinetic barriers making them more vulnerable.  So, had the crucible been used to create dark energy to lower the mass of reapers and weaken their barriers they might have been more vulnerable.

Would it also have stopped the Reapers from just running away out of  range until they could fix their barriers? Or maybe hand them the Idiot Ball (like in Independence Day) so they stand there and fight even though they're suddenly at a disadvantage?

Edit: not that the ID aliens were more idiotic than the humans. With the aliens' shields down, the humans should have just nuked all the saucers.

It lowers their mass-I believe there is something about their speed and all related to that in the codex as to their vulnerabilities (they do have them).  What is out of range?  Do you know how far said dark energy crucible will fire?    And Javelin missiles do the same sort of thing and all Dreadnoughts have Jav missile launchers on them.  Why not also use Overload technology that is used against kinetic barriers to try and drop them as well?

[3DandBeyond]

Rubios wrote...

Grow up, seriously. 

Who is this directed at, if at the previous post or the OP's post you need to make your "comments" clear or better yet relevant and not insulting.

[Dean_the_Young]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

then what was the point of spending money on a game if you have to imagine the end

You know what happens at the end: the Reapers are defeated with the Crucible.

You're asking for what happens after the end. By definition, that is impossible.

could have saved money and thought up my own
but why should i if i paid them to tell me

You didn't pay them to tell you if Shepard goes on to reunite with LI X and spend the next Y decades having sex or retiring.

You paid them for the Reaper War. Which they gave you.