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[SheffSteel]

This thread makes the baby Jesus cry.

So what if Actor A sounds like Actor B? So if it was a deliberate imitation? Actor A has the voice talent, Actor A did the work, and Actor A is the one who got paid for it.

All is well with the world.

Except for the continued existence of this thread.

[David Gaider]

I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Though, to give you credit, this is the silliest argument I've heard this week -- and that's really saying something.

[Muse011]

David Gaider wrote...

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

He could also be really stoned.

[Landozelig]

Mongo like this thread!

[I saved Star Wars :D]

David Gaider wrote...

I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Though, to give you credit, this is the silliest argument I've heard this week -- and that's really saying something.

I have a friend named Gavid Daider.  His lawyers will be in touch.

[AshedMan]

Is this a joke?

[mmmbeerz]

This thread is a TROLL win!



As an intellectual property lawyer who really ought to be billing my time, but is instead intrigued by the idiocy of a forum post, here goes:



Let's assume that the voices, inflection, etc. are identical, and that even if they weren't identical, that they're confusingly similar. What rights might the original VA have to entitle them to ANY payment? I will assume away that someone should just get paid absent a legal remedy which seems to be the OP's theory.



One option is that this is a copyright violation. Copyright is the big, bad brother of plagiarism. Copyright protects an original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium of expression. Put another way, it protects the expression of a particular creative idea. Clearly this is not going to help the original VA. Not even the OP is suggesting that anything close to a particular expression of a creative idea was taken.



Another possibility is that what bioware has done is infringed upon the original VA's likeness, also referred to as a right of publicity. This is a very difficult to analyze in any detail in this case because the right of publicity is governed by state law (there's no federal law like patents or copyrights) and some states do not even recognize this as a right. However, even assuming that a state had such a right, and that such rights were expansive, in order to infringe the standard is going to be pretty high. Among other things, they'd have to show: knowing use of a persona's likeness (in California there's a number of sound-alike cases "Here's johnny" is a famous one), and a resulting injury. With respect to the last, I don't think being deprived of a VA job would be injury, it would have to be injury to the person's persona. There's a lot of factors to analyze. I doubt any of them favor the original VA in this case.



Close this thread.

[hero 2]

David Gaider wrote...

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

That's inconceivable!

[bzombo]

i thought the topic was a typo of plaidurism - the horrible use of plaid clothing. my bad.

[Lucy Glitter]

Can't... stop... LAUGHING!

[SheffSteel]

AshedMan wrote...

Is this a joke?

Define "this"

[the_one_54321]

it's not plagiarism. that's something completely different.



which is a good thing because an accusation of plagiarism is always serious business. it's not the kind of word you just throw around.



also, david gaider.

[igniteip]

David Gaider wrote...

I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Though, to give you credit, this is the silliest argument I've heard this week -- and that's really saying something.

Plagiarism is the use without crediting the source.  Bioware listed the sources of its voice actors so there is no plagiarism.  Unless the OP meant to say that there is intellectual property in the voice itself.  Voice actor makes a living from providing a voice to a character.  It is unlikely they would want to sue the very clients that they work for.

[the_one_54321]

igniteip wrote...

Plagiarism is the use without crediting the source.

no, plagiarism has to do with things written. print, document, story, etc.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

the_one_54321 wrote...

igniteip wrote...

Plagiarism is the use without crediting the source.

no, plagiarism has to do with things written. print, document, story, etc.

I don't think so, doesn't need to be written.

http://www.askoxford...giarize?view=uk

Edit - just for the sake of clarity.  Not intended to detract from the obvious lunacy of this thread.

Modifié par Daveyboy154, 17 décembre 2009 - 11:04 .

[thegreateski]

This thread is silly.

[bzombo]

the_one_54321 wrote...

igniteip wrote...

Plagiarism is the use without crediting the source.

no, plagiarism has to do with things written. print, document, story, etc.

true. which means we really are dealing with plaid here. ew.....plaid. *shudder*

[Ariella]

So according to the OP, Michael Rosenbaum should be sued for doing an impression of Christopher Walken as a character voice in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. That's just silly, especially considering the producers of BB:RtJ WANTED him to sound like Walken, and wrote the character specifically so he could do his Walken impression.



And you know what, Bherat sounds like Ron Pearlman to me rather than this guy from 300 (which I've never seen), yet I don't get all uppity about the voice being similar.

[mmmbeerz]

Actually, the only thing funnier than the opinions people have on the internet is the things people say under the same pseudonym on the internet. I'd quote from some of the google hits without attribution, but I don't want to be accused of pladurism.

[bzombo]

embrace the anti-plaid!

[Ariella]

Legacy_QuEsT wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Though, to give you credit, this is the silliest argument I've heard this week -- and that's really saying something.

my apologies Sir. I didn't mean to cause a commotion with a mispelled word word that does not apply. I just found it interesting that I recognized somebodies voice in DAO and later found out the VA copied somebody. I didn't mention anything bad and I have a lot of respect for DAO, it is actually my favorite game right now and BG series is genius and full of amazing entertainment. I simply was a little disappointed that the VA in DAO copied somebodies voice without telling them. I am a #1 fan of Bioware 99% of the time.

Voice artists do impressions all the time (if that's what the voice artist was actually doing and not speaking in a voice that just happens to be similar). It's completely protected, and it's not as if the voice director of Dragon Age took an exact clip from 300 and tried to pass it off as something new.

[Sloth Of Doom]

This is perhaps the stupidest thread I have seen on these forums yet. In fact, I think it deserves some sort of internet stupidity award.