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[Tonya777]

Tirigon wrote...

The best ones at wielding weapons are arcane warriors, and they gain their strength by magic.



OWNED!

They store massive quanities of lyrium in their ******

Modifié par Tonya777, 17 décembre 2009 - 11:49 .

[RockGnasher]

I prefer the current ideal of female beauty. Maybe it is because I am slender and tall as well. I do not like it how everyone else prefers tall skinny women though. As a result of so much love for no reason they often become warped in the head or suffer from gold digger syndrome or whatever...

[Darpaek]

Fat chicks suck. Bust size should be greater than waist size. Significantly. =D

[Tonya777]

^That depends on what you consider fat ... you really can't get a girl w/ big (natural) baps w/o the girl having a noticable ammount of body fat

[AntiChri5]

Darpaek wrote...

Fat chicks suck. Bust size should be greater than waist size. Significantly. =D

But what do they suck Darpeak? And how exstensive is your research into the matter?

[Leather_Rebel90]

Why are girls lithe in video games? 'Cuz no one in an RPG (or IRL for that matter) wants to Romance a fat b*tch...

That being said, being overweight IRL is a pure display of lack of self-control and self-respect. Neither are admirable qualities. That alone right there is the turn-off for me. I don't care so much about the appearances and what-not. Best GF I ever had was a blind chick.

And please, don't throw this "But I have a medical condition that causes me to gain weight!' at me. I hate that bullsh*t. If you're fat, then man up and admit it, and do something about it.

Modifié par Leather_Rebel90, 18 décembre 2009 - 01:05 .

[Tirigon]

Tonya777 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

The best ones at wielding weapons are arcane warriors, and they gain their strength by magic.



OWNED!

They store massive quanities of lyrium in their ******

Damned, got owned. Though the amounts cant be soo big, my elf has rather small ******.

[Tweekle]

Yes the skinny women with big boobs look ridiculous (Morrigans upper arms look sickly and anorexic) but what about the men? All of them have ripped abs and muscles including the really old guys.
Its pretty poor in 2009 a major game like DA can't have some sort of variety when it comes to NPC models and also player choices.

I understand the 'but we'd have to remodel every piece of armour...' comment, but other games have used sliding scales for body features just fine.

Modifié par Tweekle, 18 décembre 2009 - 01:12 .

[roybm]

well.... would a big, non athletic girl be able to wield a blade in a fight effectively?

i think it would make more sense that smaller = more healthier and athletic, so she is able to handle herself in a fight well.



plus im sure more younger men play games than female so it is what most men look for.

[Gorath Alpha]

Tonya777 wrote...

You're all skipping the point here , this is about their body types preventing them from actually realistically weilding 100 pound weapons

With that said , adding 50 pounds of fat to the characters would do nothing but make them actually weaker

The point here is they should come with more muscular arms (Refer to Beth Pheonix picture on an earlier page of this topic)

TTBOMK, there has never been any "50 pound hald-weilded weapon", unless you are speaking of a very rare tripod-mounted M-3 machine gun (50 cal), which weighed even more than that.  I'm pretty sure that the M2 weighed less than 50 pounds, tripod and all, unless it was the water-cooled one, inlcluding all accessories (30 cal).

All of you people need to take in at least one Renaissance Faire daytrip.  There are vendors at most of those selling various bladed weapons, the cheaper ones of which are strictly ornamental, and definitely too heavy.  The actual reproductions of real fighting swords are not tremendously heavy, although without a lot of serious conditioning, the combination of wearing armor, being pumped by adrenalin, and swinging a normal weight weapon would tire you out rapidly. 

Incidentally, ths game seems to perpetuate a long-time myth that predates the old D&D games.  Chain mail was not lighter in weight than plate mail, and "full plate" was not heavier than the combination of chain and plate that was most affordable (full plate was horribly expensive). 

I've always been partial to that 60-something years-old drawing of a "Rosie the Riveter" showing her biceps when I think about a distaff melee fighter, or the the Aliens movie charcacter "Ripley", a six footer, like the actress Sigourney Weaver playing that part (she was a guest on a talk show earlier this week, and looks amazing good for her age, which is about 60 years). 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 décembre 2009 - 01:28 .

[Loc'n'lol]

Tassiaw wrote...

broadswords, which were very heavy

3 to 5 kilos top ? Not heavier than a fully loaded modern rifle.

[Astranagant]

Tassiaw wrote...

There's an inordinate amount of anger toward "fat" women in this thread. Being rail thin is just as unhealthy as being obese, and most people with those overactive metabolisms don't eat properly or exercise like they should. People should promote health, and not an unattainable image.

Please refrain from using this thread as a place to vent your thinly-veiled misogyny. Thanks.

Yes, not being attracted to morbidly obese women is obviously on account of their being women and not their being morbidly obese.

And this is disregarding the fact that the women in DAO are nowhere near "rail thin" by reasonable standards. There are no visible or protruding bones, they've got some substantial bulk in some places (dat ass.jpg,) etc.

[Gorath Alpha]

Tassiaw wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...

TTBOMK, there has never been any "50 pound hald-weilded weapon"

I'm pretty sure they're referring to things like broadswords, which were very heavy and took a lot of force to swing around. Not guns.

Not even the largest Great Sword comes anywhere CLOSE to "50 pounds", and the fantasy oriented broad swords don't weigh more than about 6-10 pounds when reproduced in appropriate grades of steel. 

G

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 18 décembre 2009 - 01:38 .

[Tirigon]

wanting the girls in DAO to be skinny doesnt mean you have a "thinly-veined misogyny". It just means 2 things.

1.: You have that kind of beauty-ideal (what is rather common, btw)

2.: In a fantasy-game, you want everything to be perfect. That includes that everyone should fit to your beauty-ideal.

[Shorinjikan]

1) I don't see the problem, the look is mostly ok in this game.

2) The arms seem fine to me - at least they aren't all bloated looking like the mens'. Those arms are actually not that bad, (armoured versions) they only look a tad smaller than mine, just without the definition. I reckon it's the freakishly oversized hands that are skewing things here...

3) Thank god the posture is so much better than mass effect.

4) "100lb weapons"??!

Modifié par Shorinjikan, 18 décembre 2009 - 02:01 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

Chauvinism is NOT cool.

No worries Bioware, i'm a dunce at anatomy too.  Take note of my 3 feedback threads for aid in my anatomy work, & that's for just the FACE alone.  (Tayo bein the current active one, for any interested.)

How many of us here at this thread CAN draw proper anatomy? Especially noses? They had a LOT of stuff to do, including building a new world from scratch, & am I remembering correctly that they built a new game engine from the ground up too?

Look on the bright side, on the making of DA 2, the lore will already be done & they'll only need to catch up the lore for between DA 1 & 2. That means they'll be able to seriously spiff up the Character Creation & customization, & hopefully make cooler getups, right Bioware? (Looks expectantly at Bioware.)

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 18 décembre 2009 - 02:22 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

Shorinjikan wrote...

1) I don't see the problem, the look is mostly ok in this game.

2) The arms seem fine to me - at least they aren't all bloated looking like the mens'. Those arms are actually not that bad, (armoured versions) they only look a tad smaller than mine, just without the definition. I reckon it's the freakishly oversized hands that are skewing things here...

3) Thank god the posture is so much better than mass effect.

4) "100lb weapons"??!

Haven't ya heard? Ferelden weapon makers make their 2Hers outta solid lead!

[Sbri]

A general rule of thumb, a two handed sword will weigh about 1 pound (0.45 kilos) per foot (30.48 cm).  To quote from Swords and Hilt Weapons,  (found on the site http://www.thearma.o...says/2HGS.html  ) "Although large, measuring 60-70 in/150-175 cm overall, it was not as hefty as it looked, weighing something of the order of 5-8 lbs/ 2.3-3.6 kg."
Having used a 5 foot sword for stage combat, even that 5 lbs of weight can get tiring.  If you are not in shape, you will tire very quickly.  The reason I bring this up is that by the end of that show, I had far more prominant bi and tricepts then when I'd started.  No skinny armed waif is going to remain skinny armed for long even if all she is toting is a 5 pound sword.

Modifié par Sbri, 18 décembre 2009 - 03:29 .

[Lord Niah]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Tonya777 wrote...

You're all skipping the point here , this is about their body types preventing them from actually realistically weilding 100 pound weapons

With that said , adding 50 pounds of fat to the characters would do nothing but make them actually weaker

The point here is they should come with more muscular arms (Refer to Beth Pheonix picture on an earlier page of this topic)

TTBOMK, there has never been any "50 pound hald-weilded weapon", unless you are speaking of a very rare tripod-mounted M-3 machine gun (50 cal), which weighed even more than that.  I'm pretty sure that the M2 weighed less than 50 pounds, tripod and all, unless it was the water-cooled one, inlcluding all accessories (30 cal).

All of you people need to take in at least one Renaissance Faire daytrip.  There are vendors at most of those selling various bladed weapons, the cheaper ones of which are strictly ornamental, and definitely too heavy.  The actual reproductions of real fighting swords are not tremendously heavy, although without a lot of serious conditioning, the combination of wearing armor, being pumped by adrenalin, and swinging a normal weight weapon would tire you out rapidly. 

Incidentally, ths game seems to perpetuate a long-time myth that predates the old D&D games.  Chain mail was not lighter in weight than plate mail, and "full plate" was not heavier than the combination of chain and plate that was most affordable (full plate was horribly expensive). 

I've always been partial to that 60-something years-old drawing of a "Rosie the Riveter" showing her biceps when I think about a distaff melee fighter, or the the Aliens movie charcacter "Ripley", a six footer, like the actress Sigourney Weaver playing that part (she was a guest on a talk show earlier this week, and looks amazing good for her age, which is about 60 years). 

Gorath
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Finally someone speaks some sense in this thread.  In reality, all those big muscled body builder types would not have survived very long back in the middle ages looking the way they do.  You need a lean, fit build to be effective in combat.  It is even true in modern combat.  What do you want: a big beefy soldier that can't even run a mile, or a lean mean soldier that can run 15 miles in full combat gear?  Seriously.

Probably the biggest advantage for a sword wielder would not be bulk so much as height.  If you are tall, you tend to have longer reach.  This is a plus for obvious reasons.

As for the models in the game, they actually look slightly plump to me.  The women could definitly use leaner, more toned arms.  This picture of a masai woman is actually what I would consider healthy: http://en.wikipedia....Masai_woman.jpg . 

[KalosCast]

Considering that Bioware already made a few sneaky cuts by giving women and men the same animation base (hence why your woman runs around like a neanderthal in combat mode), I'm sure that they weren't particularly worried about creating a wide array of different types of people and more worried about getting their game out on-time.

Either that or it's the eeeeeeevil patriarchy.

[Spartansfan8888]

Maybe elves like their women skinny and maybe dwarves like their women like they are with their ridiculously large wingspans for their heights lol. It wouldnt be surprising to me that humans are the only females that would appeal to, well... humans.

[Arkrend]

Hammer in fable 2