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Omega2079 wrote...

If your position has changed from "not 100%" to only a "vague" indicator, then there's not much left to say.

N7 rank doesn't indicate skill and doesn't matter.


My position hasn't changed.  Please go re-read my original post.  You'll note my estimation was that score and skill only line up with N7 rating maybe 70% of the time.

However, saying that doesn't matter is inane.  If a drug works better than a placebo 70% of the time, the FDA calls it a miracle drug, and it becomes a household name.  I merely said that N7 rating is a statistically relevant means of judging before a match, whether a player is going to suck or not.  (Please note, in scientific circles, this is -not- a strongly positive connotation, as far as phrases go.  In fact, it's one step beyond "we think maybe it might be kind of a little useful").

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OP is completely correct. N7 means this:

< 120 = total noob. Should be kicked form every game (including bronze), they should play solo Platinum until they get to N7 120 and are allowed into public games. Maybe.

120 - 1000 = semi noob. Should be kicked from every game unless they are using an ultra rare at X. They should level up with other semi noobs until ultra rates at X.

1001 - 9999 = average player. Judge them on load out and kick if needed. Probably noobs who have only just got competent at Platinum. BE WARY!!!!111!!!

10000+ = Good player. These people are ok to play with. Kick them if they have a name you don't like or for any other reasons that tickles your fancy (like colour of character, or wrong mods).

OP = Total God. Should be cloned and played with, as anyone else is really a noob.



At least i think thats how N7 works?

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FirroSeranel wrote...

...in general, probably at least 70% of the time, the scoreboard lines up pretty closely with the n7 ratings, and an honest, objective review of the match will show that the player skill also lined up pretty closely. 70% is a statistically relevant predictor, folks. That's a fact.
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I agree with the OP to a certain degree, in that score and n7 rating are not completely worthless as ways of judging player ability. However, pulling a random percentage out of your **** and then claiming it's a statistically relevant fact makes me think you actually have no idea what you're on about.

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[quote]oblivion2023 wrote...

[quote]Sabina261187 wrote...

As being a four digit N7 myself over the 3500, trying my BEST to prove peoples theories wrong all the time about their "Doesn't mean sh*t"...

I must agree with OP... Ofcourse there are people that stand out of a crowd as always, hell I saw it myself this weekend when my mates and I carried one through the reapers on gold, full extraction that had higher N7 than me, wich is pretty rare, and had crappier weapons than me...
As a lvl 1, even on a gold to lvl up on a farm, with nothing equiped I still score top.. Image IPB



No offense, but that you have a 3500 ranking and still play geth white proves that ranking means nothing.  Outscoring people on a glitched map is nothing to brag about. 




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"No offense" but if you could read, you would have seen why I did the FBWGG was to level up, since it is not the hardest to do and I would rather have the XP from a gold than a silver since it is fairly higher, and I don't like pulling my lvl 1's squishiness onto my team.. 

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

the only thing i continuously gather from these "n7 doesnt matter" threads is that the people that say it doesnt matter rarely have an n7 level over 400....
its obvious bias.


My xbox N7 rank is over 1000. I say it doesn't matter. Is this an obvious case of bias?

 does this edit help?????
sorry you must have passed over the word "rarely"


I don't see how a rank over 400 has any relevance.

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DannyBFTW wrote...

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Yes whilst this is all very good and maybe they are the top scorers, they're not top scorer because of their supportive role they are top scorers because they also ran around the map doing other things.
So by your view of how a supportive player works, if I spec my geth turret for full damge, flamethrower etc. then just play normally with the turret, throwing round corners, using it to cover me and kill enemies then I'm a good support player!
Also If I play my Justicar with a full offensive bubble and just get biotic explosions on my own using it and reave, I'm a good support player! 

See where I'm coming from here. You're not scoring well because you are supporting your team, you're scoring well because your killing enemies like anyone else. Just because I ocassionally heal an allies shields once and a while doesn't mean I'm a support player.



Alright, fine.  I concede, you're a good support player if you just restore shields and protect allies with your bubble.

If you can't see that someone else, who restores shields and protects allies with their bubble, -and- kills the badguys (which is the entire point of the game), is a -better- support player, then I think I'm wasting my time.


Yes that is true but you were saying that you should be able to score as well as everyone else whilst playing support, which isn't true.


And yet I can.  I know many others who can too.  So... -should-?  Maybe not.  But if you can, you're definitely better than someone who can't.

So yeah.  On second thought.  Yeah, you should be able to at least score within a one standard deviation range of the pack.  I'll gladly put that out there as a firm statement.

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Stinja wrote...

OP is completely correct. N7 means this:

< 120 = total noob. Should be kicked form every game (including bronze), they should play solo Platinum until they get to N7 120 and are allowed into public games. Maybe.

120 - 1000 = semi noob. Should be kicked from every game unless they are using an ultra rare at X. They should level up with other semi noobs until ultra rates at X.

1001 - 9999 = average player. Judge them on load out and kick if needed. Probably noobs who have only just got competent at Platinum. BE WARY!!!!111!!!

10000+ = Good player. These people are ok to play with. Kick them if they have a name you don't like or for any other reasons that tickles your fancy (like colour of character, or wrong mods).

OP = Total God. Should be cloned and played with, as anyone else is really a noob.



At least i think thats how N7 works?


*laughs*  Very funny.

For the record, my N7 rating is currently only 1317.  It's not as high as it could be, as I'm not a religious promoter.  And I don't claim to be the best player out there.  Not even close.  I'd say I'm in the top 10% though, with a fair degree of confidence, and I'd also say I'm definitely not going to disappoint my teammates.  But that's all.

But your sarcastic wit is appreciated.  :)

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FirroSeranel wrote...

DannyBFTW wrote...

FirroSeranel wrote...

DannyBFTW wrote...

Yes whilst this is all very good and maybe they are the top scorers, they're not top scorer because of their supportive role they are top scorers because they also ran around the map doing other things.
So by your view of how a supportive player works, if I spec my geth turret for full damge, flamethrower etc. then just play normally with the turret, throwing round corners, using it to cover me and kill enemies then I'm a good support player!
Also If I play my Justicar with a full offensive bubble and just get biotic explosions on my own using it and reave, I'm a good support player! 

See where I'm coming from here. You're not scoring well because you are supporting your team, you're scoring well because your killing enemies like anyone else. Just because I ocassionally heal an allies shields once and a while doesn't mean I'm a support player.



Alright, fine.  I concede, you're a good support player if you just restore shields and protect allies with your bubble.

If you can't see that someone else, who restores shields and protects allies with their bubble, -and- kills the badguys (which is the entire point of the game), is a -better- support player, then I think I'm wasting my time.


Yes that is true but you were saying that you should be able to score as well as everyone else whilst playing support, which isn't true.


And yet I can.  I know many others who can too.  So... -should-?  Maybe not.  But if you can, you're definitely better than someone who can't.

So yeah.  On second thought.  Yeah, you should be able to at least score within a one standard deviation range of the pack.  I'll gladly put that out there as a firm statement.


To be honest I don't think either of us can win this arguement. We should just agree to disagree. I enjoyed our arguement though, your points were well thought out. I think that in the end it just boils down to opinion.

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FirroSeranel wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

If your position has changed from "not 100%" to only a "vague" indicator, then there's not much left to say.

N7 rank doesn't indicate skill and doesn't matter.


My position hasn't changed.  Please go re-read my original post.  You'll note my estimation was that score and skill only line up with N7 rating maybe 70% of the time.

However, saying that doesn't matter is inane.  If a drug works better than a placebo 70% of the time, the FDA calls it a miracle drug, and it becomes a household name.  I merely said that N7 rating is a statistically relevant means of judging before a match, whether a player is going to suck or not.  (Please note, in scientific circles, this is -not- a strongly positive connotation, as far as phrases go.  In fact, it's one step beyond "we think maybe it might be kind of a little useful").



If you're talking stats, please show your work.

Modifié par Omega2079, 18 juillet 2012 - 10:58 .


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Sorry I didn't read every post in this thread because it will take a long time.

I just like to say that I agree with you in general.

High N7 Rating == Play Alot.
Play Alot == Likes the game.
Likes the game == Would try to get the most out of the game by improving the game play and win games most of the time. No one likes failing all the time.

Unfortunately there are exceptions. A few I can think of are:

1. Farmers. Since we used to get character cards for exp in packs so you can get to high N7 by playing FBWGG exclusively. Which doesn't require much real skill.

2. Sidekicks. You get people that really only play with their friends and plays ok but don't really know the game because they only do what their more knowledgeable friend tells them to do. e.g. I played with a friend's friend last night that has N7 1000+ that didn't know biotic charge can recover barriers

3. New plays to a difficulty. After last weekends Operation Broadside it seems that alot of silver players decided they can try play gold now. I saw many N7 600 ~ 800 PUGs that really didn't play well in GOLD. But i believe they will eventually get there if they stick to it.

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At time score CAN be useful to see but other times it's a waste. Just pay attention to how many times a player goes down because they ran off or decided not to duck behind cover or melee the banshee that had full health at the start of a round. If someone has a SE and threw up decoys, never died but didn't even score half of the 2nd place player I'll still be happy to have them on my team. But I've seen a lot of times where the person with the highest score kept going in, getting kills then dying and having someone revive him, kill a few more and repeat. Highest score NORMALLY in my experience just means you run off more. Or have a black widow on a geth infiltrator while others are using different weapons. Heck I get the 2nd place often cause someone else will use a krysea and take the kill after I did the work. Does it bother me? No cause score doesn't matter long as we succeed and one player isn't being drug through the match.

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Sabina261187 wrote...

oblivion2023 wrote...

Sabina261187 wrote...

As being a four digit N7 myself over the 3500, trying my BEST to prove peoples theories wrong all the time about their "Doesn't mean sh*t"...

I must agree with OP... Ofcourse there are people that stand out of a crowd as always, hell I saw it myself this weekend when my mates and I carried one through the reapers on gold, full extraction that had higher N7 than me, wich is pretty rare, and had crappier weapons than me...
As a lvl 1, even on a gold to lvl up on a farm, with nothing equiped I still score top.. Image IPB



No offense, but that you have a 3500 ranking and still play geth white proves that ranking means nothing.  Outscoring people on a glitched map is nothing to brag about. 




 
"No offense" but if you could read, you would have seen why I did the FBWGG was to level up, since it is not the hardest to do and I would rather have the XP from a gold than a silver since it is fairly higher, and I don't like pulling my lvl 1's squishiness onto my team.. 


And what makes you think Firebase White is a glitched map?  It's called spawn control.  That just happens to be one map in which the most easily defensible position is also in a corner spawn zone, such that when the players are all there, the enemies can't spawn behind them.  Geth is played simply because they have no grenades, snipers, heavy melee spawns, or other means of flushing players out of cover, aside from Primes, which are easily staggered and prevented from closing to melee.

There are other maps with similar tactical setups.  One was released yesterday.  Vancouver has an office/lab in the farthest corner from the player spawn point, that is easily defensible, and disallows spawning behind it.  In fact, I'd predict that within the next month or so, it will supplant Firebase White as the farming map.  The only reason it isn't farmable on Platinum is because of the mixed spawns.  While on Platinum with pure Geth waves, that office is as easily held (if not more easily) than FBWGG, a single Phantom, Brute, or Banshee, or even a well-placed grenade or two, can easily flush the whole team from cover.  But on Gold, that problem doesn't exist.

The only point you've successfully made, Oblivion, is that you do not yet possess enough experience with the game to understand spawn control, which is a basic strategy for -successful- Gold and Platinum runs.

Modifié par FirroSeranel, 18 juillet 2012 - 11:04 .


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Omega2079 wrote...

FirroSeranel wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

If your position has changed from "not 100%" to only a "vague" indicator, then there's not much left to say.

N7 rank doesn't indicate skill and doesn't matter.


My position hasn't changed.  Please go re-read my original post.  You'll note my estimation was that score and skill only line up with N7 rating maybe 70% of the time.

However, saying that doesn't matter is inane.  If a drug works better than a placebo 70% of the time, the FDA calls it a miracle drug, and it becomes a household name.  I merely said that N7 rating is a statistically relevant means of judging before a match, whether a player is going to suck or not.  (Please note, in scientific circles, this is -not- a strongly positive connotation, as far as phrases go.  In fact, it's one step beyond "we think maybe it might be kind of a little useful").



If you're talking stats, please show your work.


My "work" is an intuitive grasp, based on enough experience to have earned me a very respectable N7 rating, and the ability to reliably perform extremely well in virtually any multiplayer team.

Show me your "work" that disproves this.  Citing a single example of an 8,000 pointer who sucked one time in one game is not sufficient proof.  He may have been going to the bathroom, or on the phone, for all you know.

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I guess for me it's a time by time basis. I usually play silver, but I try not to kick anyone in lobby, regardless of N7 ranking. Now if during the first game a person with a low N7 keeps going down, scores really low and in general seems out of place then the next game I'll consider kicking. N7 is hard to use to judge performance because some people find one class and just stick with it forever, never exploring other classes or builds. Personally when I want to try a new character in a class i've already maxed out i'll promote and start at zero, so i can get a good feel for it at first and then when I reach 20 i've come close to being really good at it, but there is always room to grow. I personally use my batarian soldier and my qme for most of my matches, because i've used them the most and feel the most comfortable, but I can rock an asari if I have too, and that's because I took the time to learn the class. My N7 is only 620 but I can consistently top the boards and that includes the times when there are those the 1000+ N7s.

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M A F I A wrote...

OP, yours is a very interesting and thorough post, I not only agree with you but I find your explanations logical. On the other hand, as you stated earlier, on the internet you'll always find some people which blatantly oppose whatever you may state no matter how much circumstantiated you put it.

Shpoon wrote...

N7 rating is not a good indicator of skill. All it indicates is how much a person has promoted their classes. Anybody who gives a certain number (under 120 aside) as a cut-off point for a good player is a buffoon.


Let me guess, you have a N7 Rating of 120, right? :)
Besides, I have the feeling that SOME N7 120 do not promote to stay shielded by the "I never promoted because I don't care, if I did I would have been N7 100.000 by now" while infact if they actually promoted all the time they would have lacked either the experience, time or devotion to really stand out the crowd.


or not promoting might have something to do with laziness, or if every character is a lvl 20 why should i  promote them just to re-do all that work to bring them back up to a lvl 20?

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N7 rating can be a good indicator to experience however that experience does not often equal to skills. I have been in plenty of bronze matches where despite joining mid-game with a level 1 character I ended up dominating against players with N7 rating above 1,200 and characters above level 18. I have also been in plenty of silver and gold matches with players of N7 rating above 1,200 and they just ended up being a reliability because of their competitive attitude. I think the second type is the worst as they often just seem childish as they only care about their score in a co-operative game. And of course there are the high N7 rating players that are good team players and with good team players you are guaranteed to win.

You just cannot entirely judge a person based on their N7 rating before you see them play.

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FirroSeranel wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

FirroSeranel wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

If your position has changed from "not 100%" to only a "vague" indicator, then there's not much left to say.

N7 rank doesn't indicate skill and doesn't matter.


My position hasn't changed.  Please go re-read my original post.  You'll note my estimation was that score and skill only line up with N7 rating maybe 70% of the time.

However, saying that doesn't matter is inane.  If a drug works better than a placebo 70% of the time, the FDA calls it a miracle drug, and it becomes a household name.  I merely said that N7 rating is a statistically relevant means of judging before a match, whether a player is going to suck or not.  (Please note, in scientific circles, this is -not- a strongly positive connotation, as far as phrases go.  In fact, it's one step beyond "we think maybe it might be kind of a little useful").



If you're talking stats, please show your work.


My "work" is an intuitive grasp, based on enough experience to have earned me a very respectable N7 rating, and the ability to reliably perform extremely well in virtually any multiplayer team.

Show me your "work" that disproves this.  Citing a single example of an 8,000 pointer who sucked one time in one game is not sufficient proof.  He may have been going to the bathroom, or on the phone, for all you know.


Your work is intuition? Sorry, but that's all that's needed to show your whole topic can't be taken seriously.

I don't need to prove you wrong. You need to prove yourself right. Using intuition and then stating numbers in sicence is called quackery.

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[quote]oblivion2023 wrote...

[quote]Sabina261187 wrote...

As being a four digit N7 myself over the 3500, trying my BEST to prove peoples theories wrong all the time about their "Doesn't mean sh*t"...

I must agree with OP... Ofcourse there are people that stand out of a crowd as always, hell I saw it myself this weekend when my mates and I carried one through the reapers on gold, full extraction that had higher N7 than me, wich is pretty rare, and had crappier weapons than me...
As a lvl 1, even on a gold to lvl up on a farm, with nothing equiped I still score top.. Image IPB



No offense, but that you have a 3500 ranking and still play geth white proves that ranking means nothing.  Outscoring people on a glitched map is nothing to brag about. 




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Something special about Geth/White and send me a link to the post Bioware stated Firebase White is a glitched map.

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i disagree with the OP, and i dont think score/n7 matter....n7 doesnt tell you how good someone is on the sticks...you wont learn that until you play with them.....and score doesnt matter cause it doesnt tell you the whole story...you wont know that unless you played with them

with that said, there is one thing i keep seeing that i disagree with even more: this talk of support classes/characters....there are no such things in this game...someone may choose to play in a support role, but that doesnt mean the class/character they used is a support class/character....what the talk about support classes/characters really shows is that a lot of yall really care about your placement on the scoreboard then you willing to admit...

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jae112200 wrote...

I guess for me it's a time by time basis. I usually play silver, but I try not to kick anyone in lobby, regardless of N7 ranking. Now if during the first game a person with a low N7 keeps going down, scores really low and in general seems out of place then the next game I'll consider kicking. N7 is hard to use to judge performance because some people find one class and just stick with it forever, never exploring other classes or builds. Personally when I want to try a new character in a class i've already maxed out i'll promote and start at zero, so i can get a good feel for it at first and then when I reach 20 i've come close to being really good at it, but there is always room to grow. I personally use my batarian soldier and my qme for most of my matches, because i've used them the most and feel the most comfortable, but I can rock an asari if I have too, and that's because I took the time to learn the class. My N7 is only 620 but I can consistently top the boards and that includes the times when there are those the 1000+ N7s.


*nods*  I completely agree.  That's how I learned as well.  Or actually, how I'm still learning.  I found I hit plateaus at several points, most notably about a month ago.  I spent several weeks, from... oh, I dunno, about N7 700 to 1200, where I could easily solo Bronze, could consistently dominate Silver, but was only -okay- on Gold.  I got that good with every single class, and most races and builds, developing a very solid, broad understanding of how each power and class works, which did help me, by knowing how my teammates worked.  But I just couldn't seem to break through that threshhold to being a truly great Gold player, and knew I wouldn't have a prayer in Platinum.

So I went back to focusing on a single build.  In fact, it was a new build I'd never used, with a power I'd scoffed at before.  Namely, a Human Soldier with Adrenaline Rush.  While I played many Human Soldiers, I always respecced out of AR.  I was convinced that the damage bonus wasn't worth it, considering that it does no time dilation, and the few times I tried it, my gut feeling confirmed that.

I also never really liked the Claymore.  Its reload times were horrible, and a miss was a disaster.  The high damage just wasn't worth the trade-off in my mind.

Then I watched zHHk's how-to video on a human soldier, and learned that Adrenaline Rush gives a free, instant reload upon activation, as well as a s shield boost, making it useful for faster firing of single-shot weapons, and as a panic button when taking damage.

Also, while I'd heard of reload-cancelling, I hadn't really taken the time to learn how to do it.  So I watched his video on that as well, and practiced, alone on Bronze at first, then on Silver, then took it to gold after I had a dozen or so matches under my belt on Silver, and was topping the charts reliably.

So a power I hated, and a weapon I hated, are now my mainstay, and the only character I'm really comfortable playing on Gold PUGS, or Platinum.  I went from Claymore's timing being BOOM -- tick -- tick -- tick -- tick -- tick -- BOOM, to BOOM-BOOM -- tick -- ticBOOM -- tick -- ticBOOM -- tick -- ticBOOM-BOOM.  I went from scoring 50-60k in Gold to 120-150k.

Now I'm at a plateau with my Claymore Rape soldier, where I feel like I need to broaden my skill base again, so now I'm starting to learn the Geth Shotgun Infiltrator to that new level, to branch out.  Then I'll maybe move on to a Phoenix Adept or something, I dunno.

Anyway yeah.  You're learning about how I did, I'd say.  Keep playing, you'll get there!  So will I!  ;)

I simply don't believe that players with low N7 ratings (in general for you nit-pickers) can claim that kind of experience level, learning curve, or understanding, either of the game, or themselves.  So yes, I feel comfortable stating a preference for playing with other players at my approximate level of skill and experience, within a reasonable margin.

I want to be able to judge that -before- I waste half an hour of my life on a painfully bad team, because... well because I'm a selfish monster, I'm sure many of you will say.  So be it.  The ONLY method I have at my disposal to make said judgement, is to look at a player's N7 rating, and gear setup.  That's it.  Ther IS no other way.

So yes.  You're all right.  Congratulations.  N7 -isn't- a very good determining factor for a player's skill.  But it's all I have.  So I'll use it, and make the most of it, and frankly, if you can't handle that, too bad.  I'm still going to do it.  As others with rational minds have stated, so will they.  So will the rest of the community.

So if you really, truly want to prove that your low N7 rating doesn't matter, good luck, and I hope you enjoy being kicked from many games without a chance to show how good you are.  I hope you're filled with righteous indignation thereafter.  I hope you realize that nobody else cares.

For the rest of us... it matters.  It matters because there -is- no other option.  So... that's that.

And I'm going to bed.

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oblivion2023 wrote...

respec cards are uncommon,


In junction with near Rebellion release.

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Majin_David wrote...

At time score CAN be useful to see but other times it's a waste. Just pay attention to how many times a player goes down because they ran off or decided not to duck behind cover or melee the banshee that had full health at the start of a round. If someone has a SE and threw up decoys, never died but didn't even score half of the 2nd place player I'll still be happy to have them on my team. But I've seen a lot of times where the person with the highest score kept going in, getting kills then dying and having someone revive him, kill a few more and repeat. Highest score NORMALLY in my experience just means you run off more. Or have a black widow on a geth infiltrator while others are using different weapons. Heck I get the 2nd place often cause someone else will use a krysea and take the kill after I did the work. Does it bother me? No cause score doesn't matter long as we succeed and one player isn't being drug through the match.


+1

HOW people play to get top score is more important in my view than anything.

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or not promoting might have something to do with laziness, or if every character is a lvl 20 why should i  promote them just to re-do all that work to bring them back up to a lvl 20?

I guess this boils down to personal preferences, while some may be lazy and like to play with an "overpowered" character, some others may enjoy the challenge to play a low level character raise to 20 and start over again.

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"I also never really liked the Claymore. Its reload times were horrible, and a miss was a disaster. The high damage just wasn't worth the trade-off in my mind.

Then I watched zHHk's how-to video on a human soldier, and learned that Adrenaline Rush gives a free, instant reload upon activation, as well as a s shield boost, making it useful for faster firing of single-shot weapons, and as a panic button when taking damage"

Yeah I'm a phaeston carrier, but recently I tried to use the claymore. Ran into same problem, I was sitting there trying to kill enemies and it just wasn't working, i would constantly miss when I was pretty close and the reload times got me whacked so many times. Maybe i'll have to check out the videos because everyone was talking about how great the weapon was but I dropped it after one round, wasn't worth it on my batarians because the weight killed my exploding blade recharge,which for me is essentially a better version of a shotgun with no ammo. I love playing silver, but I may someday go to gold, the only problem is that I'm too much of a run and gun and I refuse to let teammates bleed out, even in bad situations, which would be a liability on gold.

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FirroSeranel

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Wolfsbladex wrote...

oblivion2023 wrote...

respec cards are uncommon,

 


Wow, I didn't even see that.  Another nit-picker.  I meant rare in the vernacular, not the ME3 jargon.

Yes, it's a silver Uncommon card.

I also, personally, find Uncommons to be rarer than "rares".  In my manifest at least, my rares are almost all completely maxed out, while getting uncommon gear is like pulling teeth.  So by 'rare', I meant it as the English word.  As in, not easily or plentifully acquirable.