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[LTKerr]

This with Wrex alive and someone finding Shepard.

[Vuduu]

I think that's a choice that a lot of authors make. In their last book, movie, or game, they feel that in order to drive home the "horror" of it all, beloved characters have to die. Rowling did this with Harry Potter, and got a lot of criticism for killing too many characters off in the final novel. In Mass Effect, I think they went overboard with the character death. Billions of people died and several lead characters. I think that was enough.

Regarding Wrex, yes, I may see if I can edit my saved game so I can get the footage I need to get Wrex's name off the board. That was my bad. I was too lazy to import my ME1 game when I started ME2. The game decided for me that I let Wrex die.

Why would we need someone to find Shepard? Isn't the *GASP* enough to tell us that he made it?

[The Angry One]

Any ending that removes the spacebaby becomes 500% better and more coherent.
The only reason that thing exists at all is due to ego. Certain people refused to accept it was a failure.

Say what you like about George Lucas, but at least when people went "We hate Jar Jar", he didn't go "Oh yeah? Well here's MORE Jar Jar!". Also Jar Jar didn't completely break the narrative in any case.

[LTKerr]

Vuduu wrote...

I think that's a choice that a lot of authors make. In their last book, movie, or game, they feel that in order to drive home the "horror" of it all, beloved characters have to die. Rowling did this with Harry Potter, and got a lot of criticism for killing too many characters off in the final novel. In Mass Effect, I think they went overboard with the character death. Billions of people died and several lead characters. I think that was enough.

Regarding Wrex, yes, I may see if I can edit my saved game so I can get the footage I need to get Wrex's name off the board. That was my bad. I was too lazy to import my ME1 game when I started ME2. The game decided for me that I let Wrex die.

Why would we need someone to find Shepard? Isn't the *GASP* enough to tell us that he made it?

Usually I would say "yes", but in those 12 or 14 seconds what I see is Shepard too heavily wounded to survive, I think it's needed something else to make it clear she/he survives.

[Grub Killer8016]

Refusal ending with Victory... you know you want it.

[The Angry One]

LTKerr wrote...

Usually I would say "yes", but in those 12 or 14 seconds what I see is Shepard too heavily wounded to survive, I think it's needed something else to make it clear she/he survives.

Oh, OH. I get it. You want a cheesy, non-artistic ending that BioWare could never do, like this:

www.youtube.com/watch

[Vuduu]

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Refusal ending with Victory... you know you want it.

Want me to make it?  I can ... I thought about it ... 

The only question is, do you want Shepard to tell the Starchild off, or shoot him in the head?  

[The Angry One]

Vuduu wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Refusal ending with Victory... you know you want it.

Want me to make it?  I can ... I thought about it ... 

The only question is, do you want Shepard to tell the Starchild off, or shoot him in the head?  

Shooting is meta-gamey and boring. Epic speech is needed.

[ShepnTali]

LTKerr wrote...

Vuduu wrote...

I think that's a choice that a lot of authors make. In their last book, movie, or game, they feel that in order to drive home the "horror" of it all, beloved characters have to die. Rowling did this with Harry Potter, and got a lot of criticism for killing too many characters off in the final novel. In Mass Effect, I think they went overboard with the character death. Billions of people died and several lead characters. I think that was enough.

Regarding Wrex, yes, I may see if I can edit my saved game so I can get the footage I need to get Wrex's name off the board. That was my bad. I was too lazy to import my ME1 game when I started ME2. The game decided for me that I let Wrex die.

Why would we need someone to find Shepard? Isn't the *GASP* enough to tell us that he made it?

Usually I would say "yes", but in those 12 or 14 seconds what I see is Shepard too heavily wounded to survive, I think it's needed something else to make it clear she/he survives.

This is an important point that many don't get. If something jumps out at you one way, you can't flip a switch to appreciate the other way. 

[ShepnTali]

Vuduu wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Refusal ending with Victory... you know you want it.

Want me to make it?  I can ... I thought about it ... 

The only question is, do you want Shepard to tell the Starchild off, or shoot him in the head?  

An epic spanking will do. Then the lecture...

[Iakus]

LTKerr wrote...

Usually I would say "yes", but in those 12 or 14 seconds what I see is Shepard too heavily wounded to survive, I think it's needed something else to make it clear she/he survives.

Very much this.

Don't necessarilly need an ME1-style triumphant "King of the Mountain" scene (though that scene is always awesome).  But a shot that confirmsShepard is going to recover from these wounds is important after the beatings being taken since the charge to the beam.

[SSPBOURNE]

Even if Bioware never got rushed by EA, that wouldn't be the ending we would've gotten.

[Kel Riever]

The Angry One wrote...

LTKerr wrote...

Usually I would say "yes", but in those 12 or 14 seconds what I see is Shepard too heavily wounded to survive, I think it's needed something else to make it clear she/he survives.

Oh, OH. I get it. You want a cheesy, non-artistic ending that BioWare could never do, like this:

www.youtube.com/watch

LOL!

[incinerator950]

HISHE

[BDelacroix]

The Angry One wrote...

Any ending that removes the spacebaby becomes 500% better and more coherent.
The only reason that thing exists at all is due to ego. Certain people refused to accept it was a failure.

Say what you like about George Lucas, but at least when people went "We hate Jar Jar", he didn't go "Oh yeah? Well here's MORE Jar Jar!". Also Jar Jar didn't completely break the narrative in any case.

My policy of just blanking out those three movies helps a lot, too.

I wonder if it is possible to rename the files and "fool" the computer into playing certain slides.  I suspect the slides aren't in seperate files, though.  Just the compilations.

The Angry One wrote...

Oh, OH. I get it. You want a cheesy, non-artistic ending that BioWare could never do, like this:

www.youtube.com/watch

Something similar at the end of 3 (not just the flash of a burnt carcass breathing once) would have been just fine with me.  No artsiness required.  Save that for a project like Dear Esther.  Where the whole thing is artsy.

EDIT: Just finished downloading and watching it.  It was close to my head canon.  Though Wrex wasn't dead in my game and I don't recall a slide of Jack.  She wasn't dead either.

Modifié par BDelacroix, 23 juillet 2012 - 08:02 .

[Vuduu]

I'm amenable to expanding the "gasp" scene that shows that Shepard is alive. Does anyone have any thoughts about where I could find good footage to use? Can you remember anywhere in the games where Shepard pulls himself out of rubble?

[BDelacroix]

Keep this up and you are going to make me want to find a way to replace the end movie in-game. However that has to be done.

No, can't think of anywhere he/she is under rubble. Well except at the end of ME1 but even there we don't get to see the hero extricating themselves from the rubble.

[Vuduu]

I'm hesitant to add in any footage that isn't already part of the official ending. I've seen some other fan-made endings, and they are really choppy. Once you start using stuff from ME1 (and even ME2), you can see the difference in quality.

I wonder if I can steal anything from the god-like Control ending to use as a "Shepard is alive" scene. I'd also love to do a "Shepard reunited with his love interest" scene, but then you're looking at a LOT of scenes to account for all the possible love interests. Since I chose to romance Jack, I dunno how many fans it would have! At least *I* would be happy!

[Ozida]

Well done video! Really cool staff.

Yet, I am still a fan of this ending: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13174689/1. Trully uses your EMS potential and no Starbrat whatsoever. (Oh yeah, and there is a possibility of happy-ending which is a sweet bonus for people like myself )

Modifié par Ozida, 23 juillet 2012 - 08:49 .

[Bill Casey]

Vuduu wrote...

The only question is, do you want Shepard to tell the Starchild off, or shoot him in the head?  

First tell him off, then shoot him and keep interrupting him with gunshots while he's trying to say "SO BE IT"

Modifié par Bill Casey, 23 juillet 2012 - 09:15 .

[Bill Casey]

I think this ending would be better if Shepard died...

[My nick rules]

Way better than the "real" ending, for sure. Nice work.

[incinerator950]

The Angry One wrote...

Vuduu wrote...

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Refusal ending with Victory... you know you want it.

Want me to make it?  I can ... I thought about it ... 

The only question is, do you want Shepard to tell the Starchild off, or shoot him in the head?  

Shooting is meta-gamey and boring. Epic speech is needed.

Overdramatic speech about the good or evil of the persevernce is cliche. 

[Argetfalcon]

wanted that to

[Vuduu]

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Overdramatic speech about the good or evil of the persevernce is cliche. 

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Yeah, I felt the same way.  When I put this ending together I had to decide if I should base it on Refusal or just eliminate the Starchild completely.  It wouldn't be too hard to have Shepard make his speech to Starchild, shoot him, and then trigger the Red Ending.  But that would mean admitting that the Starchild existed.