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[Crypticqa]

Ah, gotta love labels...
I bought DAO for same reason as many of you, for story and strategy combat, I didnt even know that you could have romance with characters.
All that "Females play it only for romance" is really getting old

Modifié par Crypticqa, 31 juillet 2012 - 09:58 .

[whykikyouwhy]

Darth Death wrote...

RyanSoup wrote...

Well my girlfriend loves DA: O because the controls are very simple. She doesn't have to be very good at using both analog sticks in tandem, or memorizing where buttons are. I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware had a larger female fanbase than most companies out there

And you want to know why? It's because of three components. 
1. The ability to customize a character:alien:
2. Romance/Relationships<3
3. ****** options available:sick:

Don't let them fool you. They act innocent, but behind closed doors they got that darkside in them. Women have many "needs" to be met, & one of their solutions are games like these. I know the true hearts of women.   

Based on your rather oddly iconed list there, it seems that you are implying that those "needs" mainly have to do with romance, sex, and sensuality. 

Seems to me that with regard to games, or any form of entertainment really (movies, books, etc), people seek out what they seek out for a variety of reasons. Some like a little escapism, some like to find an idealized view of the world, some like the story, some like the ability to conquer their foes, some like to see strange creatures and new lands....and I would venture to say that a lot of people use a combination of these things (amongst others) to determine what they're going to spend their time and money on.

It also seems that you may be under the impression that male players do not enjoy, or look for, romance options in their video game choices, or the ability to customize their characters.

I don't know that you can fairly classify or quantify what one group of people want/like in their gaming experience, or even what one group might like about Bioware games. Certainly limiting that assessment to gender just adds to the bias.

It boils down to this - women are people - human beings who, like all human beings, want different things based on their personal tastes, experiences, cultural/social/ethical upbringing. And what one person, male or female, wants in his/her game, could differ greatly from what another individual of the same gender or age may want. It's all based on the individual, and not some collective category.

[Darth Death]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Based on your rather oddly iconed list there, it seems that you are implying that those "needs" mainly have to do with romance, sex, and sensuality.

 
Is it not what women generally desire (& forming relationships)? Is it not why the book 50 shades of gray is so popular among you? The icons are meant for my personal humor.

Seems to me that with regard to games, or any form of entertainment really (movies, books, etc), people seek out what they seek out for a variety of reasons. Some like a little escapism, some like to find an idealized view of the world, some like the story, some like the ability to conquer their foes, some like to see strange creatures and new lands....and I would venture to say that a lot of people use a combination of these things (amongst others) to determine what they're going to spend their time and money on.

Indeed. My experiences are from women I know that play BioWare games, & majority of them disregard the story completely. Each time a conversation is brought up, it's usually about their character & romance option. This may not be true for all women, but for the ones I personally know (which are a fair amount) it is.

It also seems that you may be under the impression that male players do not enjoy, or look for, romance options in their video game choices, or the ability to customize their characters.

I was never under this impression, for I never stated such a thing. To be honest, it's mainly your assumption of my comment, which I can understand to a degree. 'Tis true, male gamers do play BioWare games from the listed examples above. No arguments there, but let's be true, I'd say more women play BioWare games from what I listed than males generally. It's not a unreasonable verdict, & should not come as a surprise.

I don't know that you can fairly classify or quantify what one group of people want/like in their gaming experience, or even what one group might like about Bioware games. Certainly limiting that assessment to gender just adds to the bias.

I hung around a lot of females in my lifetime, that surly qualifies me as an expert? Just joking. I better put this in my "I've got so much problems with the way I think, and need additional feedback" list. * sheds tear* 

It boils down to this - women are people - human beings who, like all human beings, want different things based on their personal tastes, experiences, cultural/social/ethical upbringing. And what one person, male or female, wants in his/her game, could differ greatly from what another individual of the same gender or age may want. It's all based on the individual, and not some collective category.

Are you sure? I've seen many monsters claiming to be women. A man can't let his guard down, not even for a moment. 

[Maclimes]

Don't feed the trolls, people.

[brushyourteeth]

It's interesting to watch this conversation slowly evolve from portraying women as namby-pamby romance hounds who aren't intelligent enough to push two buttons at once to now portraying men as neanderthals who wouldn't understand or appreciate a complex story even if they could swing a sword at it and make it explode into bloody chunks.

Way to go, humans.

[LolaLei]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Why does every female on this forum have to make it known that they have a husband or boyfriend? My god, these "husbands" always pop up in the most irrelevant places.

I'd say "every female" is a slight exaggeration there.

[esper]

@Darth Death, I know that you are trying to be funny, but it is the kind of humor who borders on offensive and I ask you please to stopp, because quite frankly I am to seconds away from calling you something, I should not say on a forum.

On topic, there are generally more female gamers nowaday, and thus they are more noticable, but I would say that there are still slightly more men than woman playing bioware games. But I think we are near the 40-60% percent that can allow us to say that we are evenly split.

[AbsoluteApril]

I do think I see more females on the BioWare forums than on, say, the xbox forums. Enough that I noticed it, but again, like the OP, could be because I tend to hang out in specific threads (character discussion). I did find a few people on another unrelated hobby forum that were BioWare fans, 3 ladies and 1 man (all tended to also prefer DA:O if that matters).

I'm 36, gaming is one of my main hobbies and been gaming since I was a kid (atari, commodore, ahh zork and wolfenstien, good memories). Currently game on the xbox and play platformers, action games, RPGs and some shooters (GT same as here).

Was already a fan of JRPGs (FF7 and Lost Odyssey ) and the reason I picked up Mass Effect and then later Dragon Age was because 'your choices matter and choices carry across sequels'. I found this incredibly novel and saw opportunity for more interesting multi-playthroughs than what I was getting in games like Oblivion and Fallout. The character customization was also a huge plus, being able to play male or female (and in DAO elf and dwarf) has huge appeal to me.

I didn't realize there were romances available, but once I did, I went from 'gamer' to 'BioWare fangirl'. I have no shame! I love to play for the love! Combat and story of course are paramount, but the love is a fun side to it as well. can only speak for myself obviously.

Happy gaming one and all.

[Darth Death]

esper wrote...

@Darth Death, I know that you are trying to be funny, but it is the kind of humor who borders on offensive and I ask you please to stopp, because quite frankly I am to seconds away from calling you something, I should not say on a forum.

I see. I'm truly sorry. 

[deuce985]

brushyourteeth wrote...

It's interesting to watch this conversation slowly evolve from portraying women as namby-pamby romance hounds who aren't intelligent enough to push two buttons at once to now portraying men as neanderthals who wouldn't understand or appreciate a complex story even if they could swing a sword at it and make it explode into bloody chunks.

Way to go, humans.

[brushyourteeth]

deuce985 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

It's interesting to watch this conversation slowly evolve from portraying women as namby-pamby romance hounds who aren't intelligent enough to push two buttons at once to now portraying men as neanderthals who wouldn't understand or appreciate a complex story even if they could swing a sword at it and make it explode into bloody chunks.

Way to go, humans.

Aw.  

There, there.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Staarbux wrote...

Now, I don't know whether I have a particularly good 'control' for this because I generally hang about in the companions section of the forums, but there seems to be far more females here than men. Do you think that's accurate? Or am I way off base?

If so, why do you think it is? I'm a member on the Bethesda forums as well and the percentage of women there is far fewer. Bethesda and Bioware are probably the two major RPG companies at the moment, so I'm curious as to why their fanbase numbers seem different? Is it because Bioware invest more of their games into the relationships between characters and this appeals more to women?

As I said though, it could be it's just that particular section of the forums that are made up mainly of women...

Well, I notice more female BSNers in the creative community (writing and art) of the forum, and there appears to be more female members in certain NPC threads (male companion/romance ones). Relationships would probably have something to do with it, but Mass Effect had 'em as well.

I've always been more attracted to the fantasy genre than the sci fi genre, which is part of the reason why I haven't even played ME yet despite owning it, but I can't speak for all women.

[Cyne]

I certainly do; role playing games in general tend to attract a disproportionate amount of female gamers. I'm one such female over time my gaming tastes have broadened a bit, but I can certainly attribute my initial attraction to gaming to games like dragon age, largely because of their story focus and relatively forgiving gameplay.