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[Greqo]

Feauce wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

I am sorry, but EULAs hold as much legal power in my country as a tisue.

All I would need is a considerable amount of people to place a case and make the EULA void,

Those that say that we don't own the game are right, but those that think that EA or Bioware can revoke and take our game away without any sort of (devolución) are wrong.

I hate to break this to you (okay, I lied right there), but yes they can. It doesn't matter how many people you have talking about it, or which country the court exists within.

First of all, you're still able to play the single-player. They're under no obligation to provide multiplayer to you (or any of the rest of us, for that matter) either indefinitely or without terms. Those terms are the EULA, which is a contract that you agree to by signing on to EA's servers and taking part in the multiplayer. If you break said contract, there are penalties that can include your access to multiplayer getting revoked.

Second, it's entirely your choice if you break the rules that govern multiplayer, which anyone with half a working brain should know without having to read them. They're quite simple; in fact, the biggest one is only two words long: "DON'T CHEAT"

Third, this game is operated entirely at EA's and BioWare's discretion. They could ban any one of us (or all of us) for any or even no reason and there's not a damned thing we could do about it. By that I mean there's nothing externally we could do; no court would intervene on our behalf. BioWare isn't likely to go ban-happy and start kicking random people, because (among other reasons) that isn't good for business.

Yup, someone has to continue to spend MSP/$ on PSPs.

[steampunk1850]

Greqo wrote...

If you played 25 games w/ people whom you knew were cheating then that's just as bad as cheating yourself.

I know I never played a game to the end with someone who was cheating and I don't think the OP said he did either.  Everyone just keeps accusing instead of offering help like an alternate email they may know of or ways of getting answers faster. 

[Doctor Proctor]

steampunk1850 wrote...

formicae wrote...

steampunk1850 wrote...

Look people make mistakes by forgetting things but by doing so their intent is still benign and should be treated ad such.

Actually this is why criminal charges exist for negligence and manslaughter. People go to jail for these all the time.

Yes that is vaild but in the context of forgetting to swtich back to an unmodded file before playing multiplayer with no bonus beng given to the player, their team mates or harming anyone there needs to be someone who stops for a second and asks "Did this person do this on purpose or Did it even effect the multiplayer game for the player or anyone else".

And then what happens when you forget to switch out your single player fire that let Shepard shoot a Mattock that does 1,000 damage with 10,000 force?  "Whoopsie, I totally didn't mean to have that in MP Bioware.  I thought guys were flying across the map cuz the Mattock got a buff, honest!"

The simple fact is that you connected to a multiplayer match with a modified file.  It might be that Bioware checks the files for modifications and automatically bans anyone with a mod because they don't feel like digging through 1300 files to see exactly what was changed.  In which, send them an e-mail and wait for a response and have a discussion. 

Also, note that it's a bannable offense on XBox Live to mod the colors of your Avatar (Green skin, for example).  Does that affect other players?  No, not at all.  What it does do though is show that someone has already comprimised the console and knows how to mod it, just like how you've shown that you know how to go in and edit the games files.  Not saying that's a perfect reason to ban, but that could be what's behind this.  Only they can answer it though, and they won't talk about it in public, so stop posting the same "But I only modded a SP file and then forgot to switch it out when I played MP" stuff.

Also, for those who keep complaining about how Bioware isn't answering their e-mail, I have a suggestion:  Post your e-mail in a topic and request everyone send you e-mails*.  I suspect you'd get at least 1,359 responses.  Then go through them all and post back here.

The ban wave notice hasn't even been up for 24 hours yet, which for those keeping track at home is 1,440 seconds.  So, if they answered 1 e-mail per second in the first 24 hours and took only 81 seconds total for breaks, then they could get through that.  Since all of these involve research, possibly multiple communications with the same user, and the employees need breaks and probably work less than 24 hours, I'm betting it will take a little while...

*Note: This is sarcasm...I'm not seriously suggesting you do that, since I'm sure you'd get signed up for a million adult sites and get accounts hacked or something.

[Feauce]

Xerorei wrote...

Hilarity, I've been a victim of "wrong ban" before, happened to me in PSU,

Woo!! I loved PSU! I played me a newman Wartecher before my friends quit and I got bored with it.

Xerorei wrote...

I bought a double sword, was playing for weeks, suddenly banned for having a duped item, nevermind I did not know how to dupe items, and was a legitimate paying customer. So I emailed them, they investigated, and determined that I was not at fault, they caught the duper, and STILL refused to unban me, the victim.

In all honesty, I'd expect BioWare to have much higher standards than Sega... Just sayin'.

Xerorei wrote...

It's most likely they use a script to detect and ban, scripts are made by humans, I got flagged for being hacked on Aion in December of the year of it's release, never the mind I had never been hacked, straightened it out, they assured me that they'd flag me immune the next ban wave. Four days later I got hit with another 3 day temporary ban for having a hacked account, and STILL wasn't hacked.

The PSU ban was probably based on an automated item-id trace, and Aion probably had an automated bot that incorrectly flagged you as being hacked. BioWare has said multiple times that they don't rely on automated data when banning people. They'd be foolish not to have some automated data to work with, but that's not what makes the final call; that's what people are for.

[Bravenu3]

AresCrusader wrote... But that still doesn't make robbing a bank legit, full stop.

Never said that, and neither that cheating was legit. My point is simply that if BioWare wouldn't have left the cheating door as open as they did AND if they would quickly fix exploitable bugs, we and them wouldn't have to worry as much about cheating as we apparently do. Is that so difficult an opinion to understand or accept?

AresCrusader wrote... And I would never dream of doing it. You on the other hand...

... Simply contemplates the problem of cheating a bit more deeply. That's why I advocate for BW to fix the known problems that enable the cheating in the first place.

Modifié par Bravenu3, 18 juillet 2012 - 08:07 .

[TeamLexana]

I'm kinda worried about Bans to be honest because I had some random try to tell me I was glitching somehow because I ended up pretty much soloing 4 waves of a silver match because he and is freinds kept dying. I don't even know how to glitch like that, I didn't even think it was possible on the XBox.

So in short, I hope peeps that do get banned, BW has some sort of proof that were doing so, not just because some rando doesn't know how to use a Krogan Vangaurd assumed that you were cheating.

[steampunk1850]

Doctor Proctor wrote...

steampunk1850 wrote...


Yes that is vaild but in the context of forgetting to swtich back to an unmodded file before playing multiplayer with no bonus beng given to the player, their team mates or harming anyone there needs to be someone who stops for a second and asks "Did this person do this on purpose or Did it even effect the multiplayer game for the player or anyone else".

And then what happens when you forget to switch out your single player fire that let Shepard shoot a Mattock that does 1,000 damage with 10,000 force?  "Whoopsie, I totally didn't mean to have that in MP Bioware.  I thought guys were flying across the map cuz the Mattock got a buff, honest!"

The simple fact is that you connected to a multiplayer match with a modified file.  It might be that Bioware checks the files for modifications and automatically bans anyone with a mod because they don't feel like digging through 1300 files to see exactly what was changed.  In which, send them an e-mail and wait for a response and have a discussion. 

Also, note that it's a bannable offense on XBox Live to mod the colors of your Avatar (Green skin, for example).  Does that affect other players?  No, not at all.  What it does do though is show that someone has already comprimised the console and knows how to mod it, just like how you've shown that you know how to go in and edit the games files.  Not saying that's a perfect reason to ban, but that could be what's behind this.  Only they can answer it though, and they won't talk about it in public, so stop posting the same "But I only modded a SP file and then forgot to switch it out when I played MP" stuff.

Also, for those who keep complaining about how Bioware isn't answering their e-mail, I have a suggestion:  Post your e-mail in a topic and request everyone send you e-mails*.  I suspect you'd get at least 1,359 responses.  Then go through them all and post back here.

The ban wave notice hasn't even been up for 24 hours yet, which for those keeping track at home is 1,440 seconds.  So, if they answered 1 e-mail per second in the first 24 hours and took only 81 seconds total for breaks, then they could get through that.  Since all of these involve research, possibly multiple communications with the same user, and the employees need breaks and probably work less than 24 hours, I'm betting it will take a little while...

*Note: This is sarcasm...I'm not seriously suggesting you do that, since I'm sure you'd get signed up for a million adult sites and get accounts hacked or something.

Gibbed's save editor mods files as well so anyone who uses that should be banned since it does extactly the same thing I did (increased how much a war asset is worth).  Modding a piece of software and modding an actual xbox are very different.  For an xbox game you could edit it on a computer and then burn onto a disc but modding the actual xbox software/hardware is more complicated.

By the way the situation I gave was with the modded file having no effect on multiplayer at all not about files that deal with weapons/powers/recharge ect.  Those are completely different situations.

[AgentStark]

This is why I only play in private matches.

[Pekkan]

steampunk1850 wrote...

 I was thinking my ban may be because I forgot to switch my Coalesced files (have one for SP and one for MP so this wouldn't happen).  Only thing I had modded on SP file , I think, was my war assets for when I was below 100% ready and didn't feel like doing a MP game.

There is really no reason to mod war assets through coalesced when you can just edit your single player save with save game editor, you can increase any individual war asset strengths with that, if you want, give one ground unit value of over 9000 and one fleet power level of over 9000, that will give you more than enough war assets. How you edit your single player saves is really nobody's business. 

Though your manifest looks interesting. Kinda interesting that you have pre-July ultra rares maxed while you only have 2 promotional weapons. 

Modifié par Pekkan, 18 juillet 2012 - 07:58 .

[jordie3000]

Pekkan wrote...

steampunk1850 wrote...

 I was thinking my ban may be because I forgot to switch my Coalesced files (have one for SP and one for MP so this wouldn't happen).  Only thing I had modded on SP file , I think, was my war assets for when I was below 100% ready and didn't feel like doing a MP game.

There is really no reason to mod war assets through coalesced when you can just edit your single player save with save game editor, you can increase any individual war asset strengths with that, if you want, give one ground unit value of over 9000 and one fleet power level of over 9000, that will give you more than enough war assets. How you edit your single player saves is really nobody's business. 

Though your manifest looks interesting. Kinda interesting that you have pre-July ultra rares maxed while you only have 2 promotional weapons. 

I believe steampunk1850 said earlier that they had a job on weekends that precluded taking place in operations. 

[scheherazade]

upinya slayin wrote...

what your missing is that it creates an unbalance for people to come in and earn eveyrhting by cheating off teh bat, the turning around and having better stuff then people who ahve put hundreds of hours fairly into earning it. You don't think those people would be pissed if BW allowed you guys to do that. Now mind you if its a private game and you want to play modded with firends and get no XP or credits for it, then i'd be more then ok with that. if all firends agree and there is no reward for playing a modded game it doenst ruin it for anyone.

Actually, modding for +credits doesn't even affect other people.
Other people still have the guns they earned through normal gameplay.
The only time a +credit mod could affect someone else, is if it was done in public.

That said :
1) This isn't PvP.
2) It makes no difference how some other player got their guns to X, what matters is that the guns are X. If X guns are imbalanced, then they need to be fixed for all players - modders or vanilla.

Weapon unlocks are a disease in modern games.
It masks crap gameplay by spoon feeding virtual rewards, so players get high on the rewards and don't notice the bad gameplay until the rewards run out.
(Fortunately, ME3 MP gameplay is fun (for me), and the rewards aren't necessary to keep me playing.)

MWaHa wrote...

But the servers that the games are hosted on aren't private. 

If you want to play a private game with no consequences, use your own server.

EDIT: And what upinya slayin said.

Actually, the servers are private.
One of the 4 players is the server.



My guns are ~all X (other than blacks and the ones that just came out).
If I didn't have to worry about bans, I would have set all my stuff to X from day 1.
I've had my gear at X for a while now, and I'm much happer playing at X, focusing on the gameplay, and not focusing on credits.

When I eventually get to the single player (Yes, I only play MP in ME3), I'd like to do each asset farming mission once, and then just edit my assets to max.
I don't want to repeat myself ad-nauseum just to finish the story.
I'm still gonna have the same ending (as I would farm it out if I had to), so that doesn't change.
The only change is how long the story is on pause while I farm.

-scheherazade

Modifié par scheherazade, 18 juillet 2012 - 08:03 .

[arrveetee]

I find it very hard to believe that BioWare would ban players when there wasn't clear evidence of cheating and/or repeat indirect offenses (accessory to the cheating). In the civil law, there is remedy against unjustified enrichment even where no party is at fault - because a gain has been made where it should not have. It's only fair that behaviours like that are tackled, but it more often than not involves restitution of the sum than some sort of punitive action. Unfortunately, I imagine it's pretty much impossible for BioWare to ascertain just how many credits out of a balance were unfairly obtained, so they have to rely on other methods.

Frankly, I find cheaters in the game completely pathetic and just don't understand why anyone would bother - but at the same time I completely sympathise with those who believe they are innocent. In their position, I would want evidence of my guilt, too. I think you're best just waiting to see what the result of your appeal is; worst comes to the worst, you can fork out for another game/pass if you really want to play so badly.

[steampunk1850]

Pekkan wrote...

steampunk1850 wrote...

 I was thinking my ban may be because I forgot to switch my Coalesced files (have one for SP and one for MP so this wouldn't happen).  Only thing I had modded on SP file , I think, was my war assets for when I was below 100% ready and didn't feel like doing a MP game.

There is really no reason to mod war assets through coalesced when you can just edit your single player save with save game editor, you can increase any individual war asset strengths with that, if you want, give one ground unit value of over 9000 and one fleet power level of over 9000, that will give you more than enough war assets. How you edit your single player saves is really nobody's business. 

Though your manifest looks interesting. Kinda interesting that you have pre-July ultra rares maxed while you only have 2 promotional weapons. 

Okay first on the save game editor:  When i modded Gibbed did not have a user friendly save game editor available that could edit war assets.

On my weapons:  I work on weekends (most of the time) so I really do not have time to do the Operations so no speical rewards for me.  During the week however pre-computer crash (started June 28th or so thought I had fixed it on the 30th but crashed later that day) I would grind out about 50 gold games a day (usually under 18 or 19 hours) sleep for a bit and then be right back on it.  Lets say a modest 80k credits a game so about 4 mil a day. 

Was I grinding like a chinese gold farmer? Yes.  Is that a bad?  Some would say yes.  But I didn't get to number 5 in the USA because I play in moderation.  So I could afford a load of PSP pre-crash since I also spent real money on some packs.

[steampunk1850]

arrveetee wrote...

I find it very hard to believe that BioWare would ban players when there wasn't clear evidence of cheating and/or repeat indirect offenses (accessory to the cheating). In the civil law, there is remedy against unjustified enrichment even where no party is at fault - because a gain has been made where it should not have. It's only fair that behaviours like that are tackled, but it more often than not involves restitution of the sum than some sort of punitive action. Unfortunately, I imagine it's pretty much impossible for BioWare to ascertain just how many credits out of a balance were unfairly obtained, so they have to rely on other methods.

Frankly, I find cheaters in the game completely pathetic and just don't understand why anyone would bother - but at the same time I completely sympathise with those who believe they are innocent. In their position, I would want evidence of my guilt, too. I think you're best just waiting to see what the result of your appeal is; worst comes to the worst, you can fork out for another game/pass if you really want to play so badly.

Honestly they could take away my credits and weapons and I would not care.  Getting them in the first place is part of the fun so i wouldn't mind doing it again.  Just because I believe to the absolute best of my knowledge that I nor anyone I grouped with cheated does not mean I do not understand BW's want to punish those whom seemingly cheat. 

They think I was cheating okay take my credits and weapons but please do not ban me.  The cold hard truth is that as a 22 y/o female the people I enjoy talking to are my fellow MP players.  I've made friends in this game and would like to continue those friendships.

[Sundance31us]

@steampunk1850 Other than following the instructions in the Ban Wave - July 17 thread there really isn't anything that you can do to expedite a response or guarantee a reversal.

[ParthianShotX]

Chaoswind wrote...

I am sorry, but EULAs hold as much legal power in my country as a tisue.

All I would need is a considerable amount of people to place a case and make the EULA void,

Those that say that we don't own the game are right, but those that think that EA or Bioware can revoke and take our game away without any sort of (devolución) are wrong.

I believe the counter argument to that would be that you purchased a single player game that happened to have a multiplayer bonus.  If banned, you can still play the game you paid for -- the single player  To suggest, for example,  that they are obligated to support MP forever because it was part of your purchase price doesn't just stretch the bounds of credibility; it breaks them altogether.

[Silasqtx]

Unfortunately it's as Sundance31us says, we're in their hands.

@Parthianshotx

This can be applied to Console games, not PC games. The PC version comes with ONE activation key that activates both SP and MP, iirc.

Modifié par Silasqtx, 18 juillet 2012 - 08:26 .

[AresCrusader]

Bravenu3 wrote...

AresCrusader wrote... But that still doesn't make robbing a bank legit, full stop.

Never said that, and neither that cheating was legit. My point is simply that if BioWare wouldn't have left the cheating door as open as they did AND if they would quickly fix exploitable bugs, we and them wouldn't have to worry as much about cheating as we apparently do. Is that so difficult an opinion to understand or accept?

Nothing can ever be 100% hack-proof. At the end of the day it is still down to the indivudal to make a conscious choice, irrespective how easy or hard it is to cheat. Clearly we have different moral concepts.

AresCrusader wrote... And I would never dream of doing it. You on the other hand...

... Simply contemplates the problem of cheating a bit more deeply. That's why I advocate for BW to fix the known problems that enable the cheating in the first place.

See above. And you don't contemplate it deeply, you are simply taking responsibility away from the cheaters. You make a choice. You pay the price.

[Bravenu3]

AresCrusader wrote... Nothing can ever be 100% hack-proof. At the end of the day it is still down to the indivudal to make a conscious choice, irrespective how easy or hard it is to cheat. Clearly we have different moral concepts.

We're arguing in circles, see. This has nothing to with morals. And since I do not (want to) cheat myself and neither want to accidentally participate in someone else's cheating, I want the choice taken away as much as possible by patching the software problems. A few difficult hacks will of course remain. But those would be less accesible to many cheaters, ergo less cheating over-all.

AresCrusader wrote... you are simply taking responsibility away from the cheaters.

No I don't. I'm just saying that fixing the underlying problems that enable the cheating would be better than triaging the problems we have now with cheating. Cheaters should still get punished. But that will hardly prevent new cheaters from cheating if the entry barrier is as low as it is here. In short: cheater gonna cheat, if you let them.

Maybe you read my gardening analogy from earlier, maybe not, but here it is again: Fighting weeds at the roots is always more efficient than at the leaves.

Modifié par Bravenu3, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:04 .

[kaotician]

steampunk1850 wrote...

Pekkan wrote...

steampunk1850 wrote...

 I was thinking my ban may be because I forgot to switch my Coalesced files (have one for SP and one for MP so this wouldn't happen).  Only thing I had modded on SP file , I think, was my war assets for when I was below 100% ready and didn't feel like doing a MP game.

There is really no reason to mod war assets through coalesced when you can just edit your single player save with save game editor, you can increase any individual war asset strengths with that, if you want, give one ground unit value of over 9000 and one fleet power level of over 9000, that will give you more than enough war assets. How you edit your single player saves is really nobody's business. 

Though your manifest looks interesting. Kinda interesting that you have pre-July ultra rares maxed while you only have 2 promotional weapons. 

Okay first on the save game editor:  When i modded Gibbed did not have a user friendly save game editor available that could edit war assets.

On my weapons:  I work on weekends (most of the time) so I really do not have time to do the Operations so no speical rewards for me.  During the week however pre-computer crash (started June 28th or so thought I had fixed it on the 30th but crashed later that day) I would grind out about 50 gold games a day (usually under 18 or 19 hours) sleep for a bit and then be right back on it.  Lets say a modest 80k credits a game so about 4 mil a day. 

Was I grinding like a chinese gold farmer? Yes.  Is that a bad?  Some would say yes.  But I didn't get to number 5 in the USA because I play in moderation.  So I could afford a load of PSP pre-crash since I also spent real money on some packs.

So your defence is you play like a chinaman, even though you're an american, (if we take you at your word)? I think it's pretty funny that you have to be racist by way of innocence. As for your numbers, I just don't believe you. I play quite a lot on my free time, but completing 3 gold games an hour, including lobby time etc? Don't think so. As for a 'modest 80k', I don't think I've ever seen that much earned in a gold game, never mind every single game, as you suggest. And playing for 19 hours a day apart from weekends? Not likely, all in all.

Modifié par kaotician, 18 juillet 2012 - 09:48 .

[upinya slayin]

steampunk1850 wrote...

arrveetee wrote...

I find it very hard to believe that BioWare would ban players when there wasn't clear evidence of cheating and/or repeat indirect offenses (accessory to the cheating). In the civil law, there is remedy against unjustified enrichment even where no party is at fault - because a gain has been made where it should not have. It's only fair that behaviours like that are tackled, but it more often than not involves restitution of the sum than some sort of punitive action. Unfortunately, I imagine it's pretty much impossible for BioWare to ascertain just how many credits out of a balance were unfairly obtained, so they have to rely on other methods.

Frankly, I find cheaters in the game completely pathetic and just don't understand why anyone would bother - but at the same time I completely sympathise with those who believe they are innocent. In their position, I would want evidence of my guilt, too. I think you're best just waiting to see what the result of your appeal is; worst comes to the worst, you can fork out for another game/pass if you really want to play so badly.

Honestly they could take away my credits and weapons and I would not care.  Getting them in the first place is part of the fun so i wouldn't mind doing it again.  Just because I believe to the absolute best of my knowledge that I nor anyone I grouped with cheated does not mean I do not understand BW's want to punish those whom seemingly cheat. 

They think I was cheating okay take my credits and weapons but please do not ban me.  The cold hard truth is that as a 22 y/o female the people I enjoy talking to are my fellow MP players.  I've made friends in this game and would like to continue those friendships.

the fact that you have everything including URs to a level 10 will always raise suspicion. not saying you cuoldn't have possibly earned it, but i play alot and win alot and i'm not even close to that.  anytime you manifest is that complete BW will investigate and check your data and see if there is nayhting fishy. If they were wrong then i'm sure they'll fix it and put you back online.

[jordie3000]

kaotician wrote...

So your defence is you play like a chinaman, even though you're an american, (if we take you at your word)? I think it's pretty funny that you have to be racist by way of innocence. As for your numbers, I just don't believe you. I play quite a lot on my free time, but completing 3 gold games an hour, including lobby time etc? Don't think so. As for a 'modest 80k', I don't think I've ever seen that much earned in a gold game, never mind every single game, as you suggest. And playing for 19 hours a day apart from weekends? Not likely, all in all.

- If you don't get the Chinese gold farmer reference I'm sure the WoW (or really any other MMO) community will be happy to help you. It's not racist, it's something that's establishedfact. Besides, you're the one who called them "chinamen".
- It's entirely possible to do speed runs over and over and over again. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's doable and if you and three other people want credits and have time to kill then it's definitely possible.
- Having played with people where this is all they do some days, I'd say it's entirely possible to sleep for a few hours, play, eat a little, play some more, rinse, repeat. There's a difference between playing "quite a lot" in your free time and doing *only* this multiplayer with your free time.
- 80k is probably rounding up a bit, but even if you knock it down to 75k it still adds up to a boatload of credits. If a moron like me can get around 75k a round then I'm sure someone else can.
- It doesn't hurt to spend actual money on packs if you want to get your guns up to X.

Either way, even if these guys did do something bannable (which I don't think steampunk did, and as for Silasqtx he/she probably shouldn't have used those credits), being jerks to them isn't (or at least shouldn't be) how your mommas raised you. Save your vitriol for those who do really stupid things, like missile glitch and then blame BioWare for making a game with a glitch in it.

Modifié par jordie3000, 19 juillet 2012 - 02:07 .

[steej]

I was also banned and am awaiting a reply (i understand you’ve had a lot of mails so I’m being patient ).
I just need to know why it is that you (meaning BioWare) have decided to take such action.
The only thing i can think of is that yes, i have a lot of credits and indeed do have most or all guns and characters unlocked.

I guess you’d have to take into account BioWare points too right?
You can use those to buy things in the store. So technically Someone could unlock all weapons and characters on day-one if they have enough real cash, right?

Also, as the original post points out, if your 'lucky' enough to happen to have hundreds or thousands or millions of credits magically appear in your purse after a match, through no fault or intention of your own, why would spending them be a problem?

You class it as 'cheating', so would winning the lottery and buying a sports car also be classed as cheating in real life? No one is out of pocket, no one’s gaming experience is adversely affected by me having full guns and kit is it? I guess I could kill more and faster maybe..

…Sorry, my post is getting a little aggressive, and I truly don’t mean it to. I’m a huge fan of MassEffect and BioWare, and would never intentionally do anything to endanger my experience or the franchise from expanding.

 

Ok, I have a proposal, wipe my stats. 
Take my guns, equipment, characters, single player medals, N7score, etc and let me start again from scratch.
It wasn’t my fault, but if being busted back to private is what it takes to get me back into the action, especially now the fight is on Earth, then so be it.

What do you say?

Modifié par steej, 19 juillet 2012 - 01:09 .

[AresCrusader]

steej wrote...


You can use those to buy things in the store. So technically Someone could unlock all weapons and characters on day-one if they have enough real cash, right?

Only if they were to spend lots of many, as the packs are random. So you are talking thousands if not more.

Also, as the original post points out, if your 'lucky' enough to happen to have hundreds or thousands or millions of credits magically appear in your purse after a match, through no fault or intention of your own, why would spending them be a problem?

You class it as 'cheating', so would winning the lottery and buying a sports car also be classed as cheating in real life? No one is out of pocket, no one’s gaming experience is adversely affected by me having full guns and kit is it? I guess I could kill more and faster maybe..

Bioware is losing out, because the only way to get what you want apart from playing an awful lot is spending real money. So if you want a shortcut than you'll need to spend the cash, simple as, anything else is cheating. And other players loose out too, because you have gotten for free what they have earned, through grinding or cash.

Thank you Bioware for taking such a tough stance, it is much apprecuated by us honest old-school players.

[steej]

AresCrusader wrote...

steej wrote...

Some stuff

Bioware is losing out, because the only way to get what you want apart from playing an awful lot is spending real money. So if you want a shortcut than you'll need to spend the cash, simple as, anything else is cheating. And other players loose out too, because you have gotten for free what they have earned, through grinding or cash.

Thank you Bioware for taking such a tough stance, it is much apprecuated by us honest old-school players.

I understand your opinon.  Untill Tuesday 17th i shared it completly.
But whats happened to me is not fair. 

I paid for this game, just like you. 
And, just like you, could play the singleplayer or multiplayer games it offered.

Now, due to a possible glitch (dont forget the reason was not disclosed to me other than "Exploitative Activity Found") I can only play half of what i've paid for, with no explanation or chance to respond.

Also, whos to say I havnt played enough to earn the credits to unlock the items? 
I have also paid real money with BioWare points that have now been lost due to, quite frankly, someone else's cheeting.

You just wait untill your in my shoes, and you unjustly get hit with the so called BanHammer just because you mayhave been unfortunate enough to play in a game with a cheater on your team...

The logical thing to do to players such as myself would be to wipe the stats, calculate any real money i've spent and refund it.

For 'real' cheaters, we'vee all seen them with full auto sniper rifles or shotguns or missiles, they should get banned as they have clearly altered the code in some way and violated the T&Cs.  I did not.

[UPDATE] - again I’m sorry for any aggression that you may detect in my post. Please view it as passion for a game that has shaped my life over the past 5 years.

Modifié par steej, 19 juillet 2012 - 01:57 .