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[Shaigunjoe]

o Ventus wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I don't know if I should insult your intelligence or keep on repeating myself.

ME2 WAS BUILDING UP TO THE DARK ENERGY PLOT.

The only mention of dark energy that I recall in ME2 was Haestrom and I don't see how that's a build up to the crucible.
Explain, please?

The Crucible wasn't involved in the DE plot.

I don't think it was, anyway.

I think all we know about the DE plot is that they considered doing somethign with dark energy, and thats it.  There are several rumors around the fourms about what exactly the DE plot was, though none of them are credible.  Which one are you referring to?

Here is the link where DK says he would not discuss anything about the original ending:
http://drewkarpyshyn...?p=381#more-381

[Mcfly616]

Shaigunjoe wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I don't know if I should insult your intelligence or keep on repeating myself.

ME2 WAS BUILDING UP TO THE DARK ENERGY PLOT.

The only mention of dark energy that I recall in ME2 was Haestrom and I don't see how that's a build up to the crucible.
Explain, please?

The Crucible wasn't involved in the DE plot.

I don't think it was, anyway.

I think all we know about the DE plot is that they considered doing somethign with dark energy, and thats it.  There are several rumors around the fourms about what exactly the DE plot was, though none of them are credible.  Which one are you referring to?

Here is the link where DK says he would not discuss anything about the original ending:
http://drewkarpyshyn...?p=381#more-381

Then what about this:


http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings


The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

[Shaigunjoe]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Shaigunjoe wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

I don't know if I should insult your intelligence or keep on repeating myself.

ME2 WAS BUILDING UP TO THE DARK ENERGY PLOT.

The only mention of dark energy that I recall in ME2 was Haestrom and I don't see how that's a build up to the crucible.
Explain, please?

The Crucible wasn't involved in the DE plot.

I don't think it was, anyway.

I think all we know about the DE plot is that they considered doing somethign with dark energy, and thats it.  There are several rumors around the fourms about what exactly the DE plot was, though none of them are credible.  Which one are you referring to?

Here is the link where DK says he would not discuss anything about the original ending:
http://drewkarpyshyn...?p=381#more-381

Then what about this:


http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings


The Dark Energy was a force that was going to consume everything. According to Karpyshyn, "The Reapers as a whole were 'nations' of people who had fused together in the most horrific way possible to help find a way to stop the spread of the Dark Energy. The real reason for the Human Reaper was supposed to be the Reapers saving throw because they had run out of time. Humanity in Mass Effect is supposedly unique because of its genetic diversity and represented the universe's best chance at stopping Dark Energy's spread."

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a way to stop the Dark Energy threat with what little time was left before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

Yea, that article is wrong, they put quotes around words that DK never said.  If you follow the source to the bottom of the rabbit hole you would see that.

Modifié par Shaigunjoe, 19 juillet 2012 - 03:20 .

[Mcfly616]

I was just asking(no need to get all crazy).....I found it curious myself....that some site I had never heard of, broke this story.....and not some major videogame publication....



So I guess if DK says that he never said these things....then ok

[Shaigunjoe]

Mcfly616 wrote...

I was just asking(no need to get all crazy).....I found it curious myself....that some site I had never heard of, broke this story.....and not some major videogame publication....

So I guess if DK says that he never said these things....then ok

Sorry, didn't realize I was getting all crazy.  I think I just get tired of the "If DK was onboard, then the ending would have been so much better" (I know that wasn't what you were saying).

[Taboo]

I would have preferred the Dark Energy thing.

Yeah.

Even if the Reapers were neutered in that one.

At least I could speculate that we solved the ****ing problem instead of listening to the Catalyst's fallacies.

[Mark of the Dragon]

I loved ME2 but I personally I preferred ME3. It had a much stronger and more interesting plot.

Also I dont prefer ME3 better due to its superior shooting aspect either. While I loved ME3's better battle mechanics and powers I have never been much into shooters. I dont like Modern Warfare or Call of Duty. I just personally feel that ME3 is the superior game. Just my opinion.

Modifié par Mark of the Dragon, 19 juillet 2012 - 03:31 .

[Mcfly616]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I would have preferred the Dark Energy thing.

Yeah.

Even if the Reapers were neutered in that one.

At least I could speculate that we solved the ****ing problem instead of listening to the Catalyst's fallacies.

we did solve the problem....we stopped a twisted AI's genocidal cycle from continuing another billion years

[Shaigunjoe]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I would have preferred the Dark Energy thing.

Yeah.

Even if the Reapers were neutered in that one.

At least I could speculate that we solved the ****ing problem instead of listening to the Catalyst's fallacies.

The thing that bothers me the most about it, is that Eezo releases dark energy.  So if reapers wanted to stop the spread, why leave stuff around that lets us make a **** ton of it?  It also makes the game turn into more of an environmentalism story.  Mass Effect has covered a lot of things, but environmental conservation is not one of them.  Probably the opposite, as you rob planets of the resources with only good consequences.

[Taboo]

I did stop the problem in the best way I could. By killing millions of beings.

It could be worse though.

Like the traffic jam scene in Godard's Weekend worse.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 19 juillet 2012 - 03:34 .

[RethenX]

I could have sworn everyone hated ME2 here.

*ME3 arrives*

I get it now.

[MattFini]

MASS EFFECT 2 - amazing characters, great dialogue. Graphics/environments were upgraded and improved significantly to create more immersion.

Non-linear gameplay, fun and varied side missions, and the final mission takes your game's choices into account.

In short, ME2 is a masterpiece. ME3 is a miserable shell when compared to it.

[MattFini]

When compared to ME3, I mean.

It certainly paled to the first game there. But I liked being able to recruit (or not recruit) various characters. And I also liked being able to choose who I recruited first in ME2: Jack, Grunt, Mordin or Garrus. It was fun to pick up on the little dialogues that way.

Much better than ME3 where, for example, if you recruit Javik before Palavan, you still cant bring him with you when you go there.

Modifié par MattFini, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:06 .

[MattFini]

So you're just being argumentative at this point?

[Mr.House]

I personally found ME2 to be trash, there was a few things I really did enjoy but very few compare to ME and ME3.Not to mention my true enjoyment in ME2 cost me an extra $10. So ya...

Also if I do play ME3, 99% of the time I just skip ME2 and mod the flags via save editor. I see no point playing ME2, just a waste of time that in the end does nothing.

[Hackulator]

I agree with you on almost everything you said. However, the reason people love ME2 so much is that the people here truly love the CHARACTERS of the ME storyline, and ME2 delves into the minds and backgrounds of your squadmates far more than any of the other games.

[MattFini]

I can promise you I'm not looking at them with rose colored glasses.

I liked them more than ME3. By a lot. I certainly don't begrudge anyone who feels differently.

I enjoyed parts of ME3, but it just didn't work for me like the other two did.

[MattFini]

Hackulator wrote...

I agree with you on almost everything you said. However, the reason people love ME2 so much is that the people here truly love the CHARACTERS of the ME storyline, and ME2 delves into the minds and backgrounds of your squadmates far more than any of the other games.

That's part of it. ME3 largely feels impersonal to me.

[Mr.House]

Hackulator wrote...

I agree with you on almost everything you said. However, the reason people love ME2 so much is that the people here truly love the CHARACTERS of the ME storyline, and ME2 delves into the minds and backgrounds of your squadmates far more than any of the other games.

Not really. ME2 failed for me because I only liked 5 out of the 12 characters. That's bad. The characters that I knew and loved from ME where shafted or got horrible cameos. Also how does garrus LM delve into his backgorund? It's a dam copy of the same mission in ME, except instead of Dr.Heart it's now the fade and a turian that betrayed him. That's not adding anything. That's Bioware being pure lazy and reusing a similar plot. Jack? Ya you get her background fully alright, as long as you are maleshep. Miranda? You still don't know alot about her ect. In ME3 I knew Javik better then any of the ME2 characters and he was a dlc companion. This is helped by his interaction with the crew(which ME2 did not do and is a huge fail), his convo's with Shepard on the ship, Edan Prime and the Citadel and brining him to Thessia. He did not need some worthless LM.

People praise the LM, to me they where just fillers that did nothing for me except for a few, one of them being dlc, again.

Modifié par Mr.House, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:34 .