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#126
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BadExamp1e wrote...

It's funny that Ash is two million in debt after that scene.

So basically a straight girl becomes a bisexual once she's had a couple of drinks? Yeah, I ain't buying it.


so basically you're saying that Ash thinks women while SHE is drunk are "EWW, get away from me". the altered theory is that Ashley would be interested in looking at women, but not interested sexually in them. Drunk Ash has atr appreciation-kind of thing while she is drunk. that sound better?

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The dude actually said "highly aroused" not drunk... I'm definitely gay and when you are super aroused like the "I can't get rid of my erection" type. I wouldn't mind doing it with a woman but would still prefer a man.

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Lmao. I've never been THAT desperate to do it with the opposite sex. I'd rather flick on porn or ****** to the blue sky whatever.

Ash wouldn't be like "Ew. Get away from me." but she wouldn't be like "I want that chick to scissor me cuz I'm drunk, aroused and just a little desperate."

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Lmao. I've never been THAT desperate to do it with the opposite sex. I'd rather flick on porn or ****** to the blue sky whatever.

Ash wouldn't be like "Ew. Get away from me." but she wouldn't be like "I want that chick to scissor me cuz I'm drunk, aroused and just a little desperate."


which is what i am currently saying, that Ashley may be bi when drunk, but not in the sexual way. i am not sure but since Alcohol lowers inhibitions and makes others look attractive, i would say that would look like bi Ash but not Bi-sexual Ash, as she would see other women as good looking, but not in a way that would make her want to do it with them.

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draken-heart wrote...

When highly aroused, women are ~27% more likely to be interested in the same sex than men are, and drinking lowers inhibitons, making one more easily, and more highly,  aroused, so makes one more willing. i read that soemwhere.


27%! That's pretty precise!
And where would you have read that?
So how many grams exactly do you need running through your blood to be say, 15% more likely to be interested in s/s?
What about men? How many grams for hown many %
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Also, does it depend on the person you have in front of you?

Modifié par Mimitochan, 20 juillet 2012 - 07:35 .


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She is definitely not desperate, thats what I like about her, she can do without a man or whatever.

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@Draken-heart needs a cloned Ash who is bi ;-)

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Mimitochan wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

When highly aroused, women are ~27% more likely to be interested in the same sex than men are, and drinking lowers inhibitons, making one more easily, and more highly,  aroused, so makes one more willing. i read that soemwhere.


27%! That's pretty precise!
And where would you have read that?
So how many grams exactly do you need running through your blood to be say, 15% more likely to be interested in s/s?
What about men? How many grams for hown many %
...
...
Also, does it depend on the person you have in front of you?


i mistaken abit, they used sexed, i used aroused. and it is times, not % but still it was onlin in 2006 here

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Lmao. I've never been THAT desperate to do it with the opposite sex. I'd rather flick on porn or ****** to the blue sky whatever.

Ash wouldn't be like "Ew. Get away from me." but she wouldn't be like "I want that chick to scissor me cuz I'm drunk, aroused and just a little desperate."


Yes, you watch straight porn. Never did that and wouldn't but I always think its funny when straight guys & gals talk about what they think gay people do in the bedroom. Especially when it comes from porn.

How would Ash treat Shepard if she made a pass at her? None of us know since the game never allows it. I wish it given my femShep a chance to admit her attraction even if the outcome had been what male Shepard got from Sam. But oh, well. 
 

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In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.

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Ser Bard wrote...

In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.


which is no longer what i am saying. What i am saying now is the Alcohol makes Ash admit she thinks some women are attractive, but that it is not enough to turn her bi-sexual. Why is it that all of you assume that attraction to women=bi-sexual, why cant Ash be appreciative of art while drunk?

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draken-heart wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.


which is no longer what i am saying. What i am saying now is the Alcohol makes Ash admit she thinks some women are attractive, but that it is not enough to turn her bi-sexual. Why is it that all of you assume that attraction to women=bi-sexual, why cant Ash be appreciative of art while drunk?


Hey, at least I can joke about it, I did the other day on that other thread with you ;-) I dont mind joking about it, I just dont see her bi for real or for real in game that is.

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OneWomanArmy wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.


which is no longer what i am saying. What i am saying now is the Alcohol makes Ash admit she thinks some women are attractive, but that it is not enough to turn her bi-sexual. Why is it that all of you assume that attraction to women=bi-sexual, why cant Ash be appreciative of art while drunk?


Hey, at least I can joke about it, I did the other day on that other thread with you ;-) I dont mind joking about it, I just dont see her bi for real or for real in game that is.

yet others see attraction to women while drunk=Bi ashley, makes no sense if she is just art appreciative.

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draken-heart wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.


which is no longer what i am saying. What i am saying now is the Alcohol makes Ash admit she thinks some women are attractive, but that it is not enough to turn her bi-sexual. Why is it that all of you assume that attraction to women=bi-sexual, why cant Ash be appreciative of art while drunk?


I would just drop the drunk part ... Does Ash admire beauty in other females? Probably.

Is she attracted to other women? We will never know one way or another in-game.

Her not making a pass at Shepard does not show anything ... After all, one of my female Shepards wants her but she never tells Ashley. Never. Does that mean that she is not attracted to Ash? No. It means that there was no option to ... None. Curses to Bioware!!!!!!!

But as I said earlier, femShep needed more male options then more females. That is probably why Bioware did not make her an option ... they just forgot to add the males. They were too busy taking away male LI's. Image IPB

EDIT: But overall I enjoy what was in the game for choices ... you can't have it all in real life or games!

draken-heart - I have no idea what you are trying to say anymore. All I can think now is you are putting Ash in a Girls Gone Wild vid. You rock on with that even though I may not see it. Image IPB

Modifié par PMC65, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:48 .


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being drunk also makes someone more open, So ash may not talk about it while she is sober but once drunk it may get mentioned.

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draken-heart wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.


which is no longer what i am saying. What i am saying now is the Alcohol makes Ash admit she thinks some women are attractive, but that it is not enough to turn her bi-sexual. Why is it that all of you assume that attraction to women=bi-sexual, why cant Ash be appreciative of art while drunk?


Most women don't need to be drunk to say another woman is good looking and it's usually understood it's meant in a completely non-sexual way.
We go clothes shopping together, we're in changing rooms saying stuff like "yeah that looks good on you." It means nothing.

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Ser Bard wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

In happier times i.e. not during a Reaper invasion I can imagine Ashley as a touchy drunk, hugging her friends regardless of gender. Alcohol turning women gay for their female friends however is imo a male delusion and a pretty laughable one at that.


which is no longer what i am saying. What i am saying now is the Alcohol makes Ash admit she thinks some women are attractive, but that it is not enough to turn her bi-sexual. Why is it that all of you assume that attraction to women=bi-sexual, why cant Ash be appreciative of art while drunk?


Most women don't need to be drunk to say another woman is good looking and it's usually understood it's meant in a completely non-sexual way.
We go clothes shopping together, we're in changing rooms saying stuff like "yeah that looks good on you." It means nothing.

like i said Being ATTRACTED to women does not mean that it is a sexual thing, and maybe being drunk is the only way such an attraction can be revealed for ashley. sot of like a "i might kiss her at least, but never will i have sex with her" kind of way.

Modifié par draken-heart, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:43 .


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Master Alenko wrote...

I'm definitely gay and when you are super aroused like the "I can't get rid of my erection" type. I wouldn't mind doing it with a woman but would still prefer a man.


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...wat.

This thread has gone somewhere...

Yeah *flees*

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draken-heart wrote...

being drunk also makes someone more open, So ash may not talk about it while she is sober but once drunk it may get mentioned.

Let's put it this way:

Do you remember the "catfight" between Liara and Ash in ME1?

Sober!Ash will react all times that way: "never ever threeway!"
A drunk Ash may accept the idea of a threesome, regardless if she's sharing Shep with a second woman or if she's between two guys.
But to be sure, Ashley needs to be a bit more than "just drunk".

Speaking of experience. :innocent:

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What more is there to understand on this matter? As it stands, Ash is the straightest chick in the game. Her interests are out there, and she basically says she's always been with dudes, and has only thought about starting a different life with a man. How can people say they don't know if she's bisexual or not. She's a straight romance only, that should sum it up itself.

She shows no interest in FemShep. Play as manShep and she won't stop flirting or talking about his ass.

If a woman says to her girl-friend "you look super hot in that." or "I like your hair." for god's sake that doesn't make them "act bisexual" what nonsense.

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BadExamp1e wrote...
She shows no interest in FemShep. Play as manShep and she won't stop flirting or talking about his ass.

Well actually if you leave her on Virmire or deny her request to join the Normandy crew she'll stop. :innocent:

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Oh ffs. She wouldn't be inclined to that threesome when she's drunk. Realistically, booze would have gave her the courage to snap Shepard's neck like she wanted to do in that Moment more like.

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It's her fault for assuming my Shep was interested in her just because he said something nice.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

What more is there to understand on this matter? As it stands, Ash is the straightest chick in the game. Her interests are out there, and she basically says she's always been with dudes, and has only thought about starting a different life with a man. How can people say they don't know if she's bisexual or not. She's a straight romance only, that should sum it up itself.

She shows no interest in FemShep. Play as manShep and she won't stop flirting or talking about his ass.

If a woman says to her girl-friend "you look super hot in that." or "I like your hair." for god's sake that doesn't make them "act bisexual" what nonsense.


She never expresses anything for Fem!Shep because it was never programmed foe her to be, Unless you can state where in-game that she says all this and tells femshep " sorry i'm only into dudes" she may very well be bi-sexual but just never thought of femshep as anything more and a commanding officer.