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Oh ffs. She wouldn't be inclined to that threesome when she's drunk. Realistically, booze would have gave her the courage to snap Shepard's neck like she wanted to do in that Moment more like.


Actually yeah... Booze make you more angry...

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New theory, Ashley may be bi and just not see female Shepard as anything more than a commanding officer and that is why she never expresses anything for fem!Shep. Same is true for fem!Shep, she does not see ash as anything other than a sister-at-arms and does not express interest in ash. THERE!!!

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@Drake

How about Ash is straight but you get to have a fantasy of her being bi with Samantha? ;-)

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LOL but she's not bisexual. She's straight, it's canon. What do you not understand?

More importantly, she's not interested or attracted to Shepard if female. Yet she thinks of manShep as more than her CO in the exact same circumstances. Ashley is attracted to men.

"Oh sure. Tried to rebel against the whole family miltary thing when growing up."
"Really?"
"Yeah, when me and my Dad got into it, I'd threaten to run away with the next guy who came along."

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Ashley was planned to be bisexual in ME3*, but that was dropped (something about it "not fitting with her character").

*Don't ask me for a source, I don't remember where I read that from.

Modifié par o Ventus, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:07 .


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he can be a romantic partner for MShep. Ergo, he's bisexual. Why is it, then, that Ashley is not as well?


Because they're different people and different people have different orienations?

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BadExamp1e wrote...

LOL but she's not bisexual. She's straight, it's canon. What do you not understand?

More importantly, she's not interested or attracted to Shepard if female. Yet she thinks of manShep as more than her CO in the exact same circumstances. Ashley is attracted to men.

"Oh sure. Tried to rebel against the whole family miltary thing when growing up."
"Really?"
"Yeah, when me and my Dad got into it, I'd threaten to run away with the next guy who came along."




FINE SHE IS STRAIGHT BECAUSE BIOWARE PLANNED HER TO BE HAPPY?!

truthfully, that just means she prefers men, not that she doesn't like women at all. she could be an open-minded straight girl and femshep just is not her type of girl she would go for under the most right circumstances,

Modifié par draken-heart, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:12 .


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draken-heart - You are cracking me up!

As to the threesome question ... My headcanon says no. Not only would Ashley say no thanks but so would PV Shepard. He is not that kind of guy.

As to Ashley with Alexa Shepard, my headcanon says that there was a mutual attraction but neither confessed their feelings. It's a sad love story. Alexa was my forever alone Shepard. Poor gal.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

LOL but she's not bisexual. She's straight, it's canon. What do you not understand?



She would of had to have stated she's completely straight for it to be canon.  People use the word canon way too loosely to express their own assumptions.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:15 .


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Ah, but it is canon. Like seriously, she's a straight romance only that should be all the evidence you need with a video game.

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@BadExamp1e Ah but so is jack, yet she is canonically bi-sexual, and like i said, she could be an open-minded straight woman.

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Still straight LOL

I find it highly amusing how difficult it is for people on here to accept that a character is straight and won't so much as bat an eyelash at FemShep.Some people are just straight - shocker I know.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Still straight LOL

I find it highly amusing how difficult it is for people on here to accept that a character is straight and won't so much as bat an eyelash at FemShep.Some people are just straight - shocker I know.

Jack is not 100% straight. 

She's had sex with women and mentioned "boyfriend or girlfriend". In terms of Shepard - yes. She simply doesn't find FemShep a romance option. Period. Ashley on the otherhand has never ever mentioned showing any sort of attraction towards women. In our society, we assume "straight until proven otherwise". In which case, there hasn't been an otherwise unlike Jack. 

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MACharlie1 wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

Still straight LOL

I find it highly amusing how difficult it is for people on here to accept that a character is straight and won't so much as bat an eyelash at FemShep.Some people are just straight - shocker I know.

Jack is not 100% straight. 

She's had sex with women and mentioned "boyfriend or girlfriend". In terms of Shepard - yes. She simply doesn't find FemShep a romance option. Period. Ashley on the otherhand has never ever mentioned showing any sort of attraction towards women. In our society, we assume "straight until proven otherwise". In which case, there hasn't been an otherwise unlike Jack. 


But why should it be "bi until proven otherwise" then?

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Cause then we can assume the whole world is bi, wauwwww!!!

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Still straight LOL

I find it highly amusing how difficult it is for people on here to accept that a character is straight and won't so much as bat an eyelash at FemShep.Some people are just straight - shocker I know.


I'm sure there are just as many people laughing at your inability to understand the concept of bisexuality or that not every human being behaves the same way.
Is Ash straight..probably... but if they had made her bi in ME3 it would have worked just fine too.  It's really not that big a deal when you're dealing with fictional characters who's sexuality is not defined.

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I don't think there will be an "until otherwise" if mighty female Shepard can't get her interested in women, who can? Ash is coming on 30, Jack is 24? By now Ash is confident and knows what she likes.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Still straight LOL

I find it highly amusing how difficult it is for people on here to accept that a character is straight and won't so much as bat an eyelash at FemShep.Some people are just straight - shocker I know.


we do not really know her past. Could she have been with a woman before? Maybe. Maybe Ashley is just the type of girl who does not "kiss and tell" in other words, she may prefer men but how many she has been with or if she is exclusively interested in them, we have no clue, beyond what is programmed in the game. SO, unless you can point out where in game she states "Never been with a woman, never will." you cannot truely prove if she is or not because she may be the type pf woman to keep her sex life a secret, beyond what she feels is important (which is programmed in by BW)

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While it is true that we shouldn't use a word like 'canon' when discussing Ashley's sexuality, since she never specifically states that she is straight, we can say there is a lot more evidence for her being straight than there is for her being bisexual. In fact, there isn't any evidence at all for her being bisexual while we know she at least has an interest in the opposite sex.

In short, the people wanting Ashley to be bisexual are grasping at straws, even if Ashley never definitively states, "I'm straight."

Modifié par Han Shot First, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:45 .


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draken-heart wrote...

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Still straight LOL

I find it highly amusing how difficult it is for people on here to accept that a character is straight and won't so much as bat an eyelash at FemShep.Some people are just straight - shocker I know.


we do not really know her past. Could she have been with a woman before? Maybe. Maybe Ashley is just the type of girl who does not "kiss and tell" in other words, she may prefer men but how many she has been with or if she is exclusively interested in them, we have no clue, beyond what is programmed in the game. SO, unless you can point out where in game she states "Never been with a woman, never will." you cannot truely prove if she is or not because she may be the type pf woman to keep her sex life a secret, beyond what she feels is important (which is programmed in by BW)


But @Drake if you analyse it that much then you could also say that she could be a mass murderer in her past....

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She could also be a man that had a plastic surgery....

Edit: Cause you know, she never said she didnt...

Modifié par OneWomanArmy, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:50 .


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@OWA, all i was saying is that sometimes sexuality is never clear-cut, if it is never clearly stated. Ashley prefers men, i admit, that does not mean that she has never been with a woman or never will. simple as that.

@BadExamp1e, i just got to that point, listen to the rest of it YOU NIT PICKER. ash actually mentions it in response to a question by Shepard, about her wondering what life woud have been liek outside the military, and that despite her and her father not always seeing eye-to-eye, she is close to her family/ that line DEBUNKED by itself.

Modifié par draken-heart, 20 juillet 2012 - 11:00 .


#173
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I know. It's like, "But Ashley could be bisexual!" or "She's straight until proven otherwise." which basically means: You're straight. But MAYBE you might change your mind.

*Strikes Willy Wonka pose*

Tell me where in the game Ash comes on to a woman?

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I understand what you are getting at and that analysing thing I do that sometimes too but what you should do instead is close your eyes and imagine Ashley with Samantha in the way you want her to be ;-) Ahhh much better right?

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Ashley is and Kaidan are two separate characters. Asking why Ashley isn't into femshep and Kaidan is into maleshep is the same as asking why Jack, Miranda and Jacob aren't bi as well. Just like in real life, some people like boys, some like girls and some like both. Don't you think it'd be stupid for Bioware making Ashley bisexual just because Kaidan is? I do.