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#201
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This thread again! Awesome!

Ashley and Kaidan are diffferent characters. What happens to one doesn't have to happen to the other.

Kaidan is apparently Bi. That's part of his character.

Ashley is straight. That is part of her character. My evidence for this is that she is not romancable for femshep.

Get over it already.

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syllogi wrote...

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@syllogi,

Quick off-topic ... I love your avatar! I really fell for Lena Headey in Imagine Me & You. Splendid film that was kind to all the characters.


Thanks!  She first really came to my attention in Sarah Connor Chronicles, which was really getting good when it was cancelled.  She was pretty much the best part.

And to keep this on topic, I would pay handsomely for a f/f Lena Headey romance DLC for ME3.


They could call it the Imagine Lena and FemShep DLC ... if you saw the movie this would make sense for f/f. Image IPB

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Han Shot First wrote...

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and Ashley could equally have been interested in female Shepard.


Ashley could have also been interested in inserting the space hamster where he didn't belong.

There is an equal amount of evidence supporting the above statement as there is Ashley being bisexual: none.

While I wouldn't go so far as to claim Ashley being heterosexual is canon, there is a lot more evidence supporting the claim that she is heterosexual than there is her being bisexual.


there is also the an equal amount of evidence proving she is exclusively Straight: NONE

the evidence most people use to show she is straight is usless until someone can point out where in-game, not the cut stuff, that Ashley openly rejects fem!Shepard with the words "I only like dudes".

Modifié par draken-heart, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:14 .


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draken-heart wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

dgcatanisiri wrote...

and Ashley could equally have been interested in female Shepard.


Ashley could have also been interested in inserting the space hamster where he didn't belong.

There is an equal amount of evidence supporting the above statement as there is Ashley being bisexual: none.

While I wouldn't go so far as to claim Ashley being heterosexual is canon, there is a lot more evidence supporting the claim that she is heterosexual than there is her being bisexual.


there is also the an equal amount of evidence proving she is exclusively Straight: NONE

the evidence most people use to show she is straight is usless until someone can point out where in-game, not the cut stuff, that Ashley openly rejects fem!Shepard with the words "I only like dudes".


You want proof? There's your proof! *points at picture*

Image IPB

This is what happened when Alexa Shepard made a pass at Ashley ... a slap in the face! A sla- *looks at picture* uh, wait. Alexa said that Ash rebuffed her. Image IPB

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PMC65 wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

dgcatanisiri wrote...

and Ashley could equally have been interested in female Shepard.


Ashley could have also been interested in inserting the space hamster where he didn't belong.

There is an equal amount of evidence supporting the above statement as there is Ashley being bisexual: none.

While I wouldn't go so far as to claim Ashley being heterosexual is canon, there is a lot more evidence supporting the claim that she is heterosexual than there is her being bisexual.


there is also the an equal amount of evidence proving she is exclusively Straight: NONE

the evidence most people use to show she is straight is usless until someone can point out where in-game, not the cut stuff, that Ashley openly rejects fem!Shepard with the words "I only like dudes".


You want proof? There's your proof! *points at picture*

Image IPB

This is what happened when Alexa Shepard made a pass at Ashley ... a slap in the face! A sla- *looks at picture* uh, wait. Alexa said that Ash rebuffed her. Image IPB


that is gibbed/modded so what ever you say about that scene is nothing, i mean literally in the released game.

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draken-heart - It was a joke! Lighten up! : )

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i know, but the gibbed thing does not fly with me.

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draken-heart wrote...

i know, but the gibbed thing does not fly with me.


I don't use it myself ... but between Ash doing space hamsters and people demanding PROOF!

Ah, well. Some people are just toooooooo serious about fictional characters. Image IPB

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There's nothing in the released game that says anything other than her not wanting to hit on FemShep.

I mean...we don't say since Zaeed doesn't hit on FemShep he must be gay. Some people just aren't into Shep. Case closed. Maybe some just are only into certain genders of Shep or Sheps that hit on them first. *shrugs*

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:52 .


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syllogi wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

@syllogi,

Quick off-topic ... I love your avatar! I really fell for Lena Headey in Imagine Me & You. Splendid film that was kind to all the characters.


Thanks!  She first really came to my attention in Sarah Connor Chronicles, which was really getting good when it was cancelled.  She was pretty much the best part.

And to keep this on topic, I would pay handsomely for a f/f Lena Headey romance DLC for ME3.


<3 Sarah Conner Chronicles.  Summer Glau was great in it too.

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It's a moot point now. What's done is done.

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Ryzaki wrote...

There's nothing in the released game that says anything other than her not wanting to hit on FemShep.

I mean...we don't say since Zaeed doesn't hit on FemShep he must be gay. Some people just aren't into Shep. Case closed. Maybe some just are only into certain genders of Shep or Sheps that hit on them first. *shrugs*


i understand that, and am ok with it, Katherine likes Samantha anyways. but why would ash not even mention to femshep "do not try to romance me, i do not liek girls" other than bioware did not want her to? did she have some experiece with a woman that mortified her and she does not want to sound like a jerk to a gay femshep? or is it something else?

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draken-heart wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

There's nothing in the released game that says anything other than her not wanting to hit on FemShep.

I mean...we don't say since Zaeed doesn't hit on FemShep he must be gay. Some people just aren't into Shep. Case closed. Maybe some just are only into certain genders of Shep or Sheps that hit on them first. *shrugs*


i understand that, and am ok with it, Katherine likes Samantha anyways. but why would ash not even mention to femshep "do not try to romance me, i do not liek girls" other than bioware did not want her to? did she have some experiece with a woman that mortified her and she does not want to sound like a jerk to a gay femshep? or is it something else?

Because it isn't relevant? Speaking from strictly an in-game perspective - any of the characters sexuality doesn't seem to be a relevant subject that needs to be discussed.

Remember that in the future, being Religious is the equivalent of being gay today. 

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draken-heart wrote...

i understand that, and am ok with it, Katherine likes Samantha anyways. but why would ash not even mention to femshep "do not try to romance me, i do not liek girls" other than bioware did not want her to? did she have some experiece with a woman that mortified her and she does not want to sound like a jerk to a gay femshep? or is it something else?


I've got two bi friends who I've been friends with for a long long time, enough to see them in all the various states of relationship, from trying to pick up strangers in bars to crazy in love to dumpsville and back again. One of them sees gender as completely cosmetic; he likes long hair, muscles, jokes, outdoorsy people who like animals, etc, and he hits on everyone in exactly the same way.

The other is different. She likes long hair on girls, but with guys she likes short, close cuts. The women she dates are usually curvy, the guys she dates are usually lanky. She only dates people who are kind of nerdy either way, but she gets way more interested way more quickly when a woman mentions being at a con than when a man does. And she almost always makes the first move with other chicks, but I've never once seen her do it with a guy. We've talked about it and her theory is that interested guys will always hit on her but girls are socialized not to so she knows she has to make the first move, but it's just a theory. She doesn't really know why she does it that way, she just always has.

I haven't observed any of my other bi friends through enough relationships to see it in person, but they self-report the same way - to some, gender matters in various small ways, to others it doesn't, and there's no real rhyme or reason to it. It just is. If Ash is completely always-known-it bi, maybe she just doesn't make the first move with women. If she's a really low Kinsey maybe she's never been interested enough before that she had to figure out how to flirt with women to begin with and isn't confident the way she is with guys, who've always been easy to snag. There's pretty much no way to justify it that wouldn't be realistic or even outright common. Sexuality is just that varied and random and poorly understood.

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Oh, this thread lol.

Hey, guess what guys: Ash is straight.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Oh, this thread lol.

Hey, guess what guys: Ash is straight.


Yeah and the earth is flat too.  Seriusly, now you're not only being ignorant but also sadistic.

Modifié par AndreasShepard, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:16 .


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Earth is flat!? OMG.

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syllogi wrote...

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The madam did run away... I hate when people leave a hate comment and then leave... Oh well, if you read this @Isaac I had a problem with Kaidan's sudden change of sexuality in me3 too!... Cant wait to hear what you will call me, too bad I cant stick around to read it...


Could you explain why you are refering to IsaacShep as "madam"?

Because that's the kind of ignorant "name calling" a petty, ridiculous homophobe might do.  Or maybe you have a legitimate reason for doing that?  I'm very, very curious.


I am not a homophobe.... I have a new bsn gay brother now..... plus I like watching "Will and Grace"....

Modifié par OneWomanArmy, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:23 .


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PMC65 wrote...

You want proof? There's your proof! *points at picture*

Image IPB

This is what happened when Alexa Shepard made a pass at Ashley ... a slap in the face! A sla- *looks at picture* uh, wait. Alexa said that Ash rebuffed her. Image IPB


Me gusta!

Is there a chance to mod fem!Shep to Ashley so we have ... wait, that's wrong on so many levels: clone!Ash loves Ash :whistle:

#220
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Admit it, you don't think it's wrong. You want it.

I bet you'd pay for Ashley to make out with a mirror heheheh.

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BadExamp1e wrote...

Admit it, you don't think it's wrong. You want it.

I bet you'd pay for Ashley to make out with a mirror heheheh.

I'm a dirty old man ... so eff yes! :lol:

Just one question: is it considered as masturbation if you do it with your clone - or as homosexual encounter?

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CptData wrote...

BadExamp1e wrote...

Admit it, you don't think it's wrong. You want it.

I bet you'd pay for Ashley to make out with a mirror heheheh.

I'm a dirty old man ... so eff yes! :lol:

Just one question: is it considered as masturbation if you do it with your clone - or as homosexual encounter?


Ahahahahahahahahahahaaa

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LMAO.

Homosexual encounter probably. If it was possible, I still wouldn't actually have sex with another me. Not interested, mate lol

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And there it goes the fun of this question. ^^

Maybe I should do it like Henry Lawson? Create a FEMALE (or in case if you're a girl: MALE) clone of yourself. Now is it considered as masturbation or incest?

Well, maybe we should drop that topic before someone closes the thread *g*

Modifié par CptData, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:57 .


#225
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Incest.

That's like Miranda doing her sister then?