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[RemovableSanity]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

Snap Freeze is an amazing skill! Once you spec for range, it hits a deceptively large area, and hits through not just cover, but full walls! You can stand on the other side of a wall and just spam it, killing/slowing/freezing enemies without ever taking a hit.

Probably where im going wrong. Ive wacked it all on damage and movment speed and tech combo. Its great for slowing brutes and with the shield, then running behind them tapping b to do a shield hIT. As my shield has cryo it then does a biotic explosion and takes them out.

[sliven020]

He's not weak, it's just hard to figure out how to use him properly.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Is the shield affected by energy drain? If so, it can be quite useful against geth.

[SinerAthin]

sliven020 wrote...

He's not weak, it's just hard to figure out how to use him properly.

You are like a Salarian's decoy, tbh.

[ABjerre]

YIRAWK wrote...

What does snap freeze do?

It incinerates stuff.

[Gwenaith]

You need to have the team play around you. A mobile kill squad with the Paladin taking aggro when needed should work well. I think trying to hold an area with it is folly, all the maps allow two approaches so the only way to guarantee one directional combat is to keep pushing. Could make glass cannons viable for people of average skill.

[kmmd60]

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Is the shield affected by energy drain? If so, it can be quite useful against geth.

Omnishield got a separate hit point and not affected by energy drain. However, every time you redeploy the Omnishield - it's recharged to full HP. Quite useful against regular enemies bullets. It will shatter on brute charge, atlas rocket and Banshee scream. Regular phantom melee can be defended but sync kill will shatter your shield. 

[Awesome Tree]

While there's a Paladin thread up, I had a question about how to use the guy successfully. He's the only Earth Character I got from a million credits, so I would like to get the most out of him.

I have Energy Drain specced for radius, more shields, and damage reduction. I've got Snap Freeze at more distance, duration and slow, and damage and weakness. I've forgone Incinerate. Shield Mastery at Durability, Durability, and Fire Shield. What I intend to do is run into enemy territory, wack up the shield, and wait. When an enemy comes close enough, I power cancel the shield with Energy Drain, and then finish up with a Wraith (Extended barrel/Smart choke) shot or two. When an armoured enemy comes along, I throw in a Snap Freeze to help out the team.

Does this seem like a viable strategy to anyone?

[ShinTheZero]

The paladin is very tanky, with maxxed shield, you will be hardly killed by anything except instantkills from the banshees with their magnetic hands (or fingers XD).
My friend specced him like this:
6/6/3/5/6
We both see Snap Freeze as a pure debuff power which slows enemies in a considerable range. It is worse than Cryo Blast, but debuffing the enemy is good enough.
Incinerate is the bread and butter power, while Energy Drain is very usefuel to leech shields from enemies and become more tanky, when the shield breaks down.

[Delta 57 Dash]

Honestly, I would like to see his shield buffed a little.

Increase the range that it blocks bullets from 90 degrees to 120 degrees.
Make it not auto-break EVER. The thing has FIVE THOUSAND hit-points, a measly 1000-damage rocket should not be able to smash it.

[kyles3]

I use Snap Freeze like Smash: through walls and in locations where I can get out of the enemy's LOS immediately after applying. Tears down Atlases super quick, and if I'm using the Pirahna they're utterly trivialized.

The shield is the same way: extremely useful in the right situations. It's taken some trial and error, but I'm really loving this character.

[wiggums91]

How do you activate the shield? Is it a power? I can't see it in the power descriptions for him

[NucularPikinic]

The Paladin is definitely the weakest of the new N7 classes.

Fury, Destroyer, Demolisher, Shadow, and Slayer are all very good at what they are meant to do for the team. What's the Paladin? Damage dealer? Decoy? There's already Combat drones/turrets and the SE's decoy for distraction and aggro purposes.

Paladin doesn't "suck" but it's surely the weakest of the new bunch.

[NYG1991]

People get into trouble by relying on the shield too much. From my experience snap freeze is this guys best power. I've got it specced for distance and weakening. It hits a pretty wide area and can stagger enemies it doesn't freeze. It's also instant cast so they can't dodge. Works great against phantoms and hunters when they go stealth too.

[xslick504x]

nope.... Spec freeze for damage incinerate and ed with radius.....freeze staggers all but bosses and radius specs give you ultimate crowd control....and if you are like me you have tons of smg dmg gear sitting around to use. the new stabilityand armor piercing smg mods make the hurricane beastly.... 85k+ in gold is easily accomplished since you either kill or assist everything with your aoe specs. it takes a little bit more thinking compared to cloak-profit players but i feel the paladin is the most "prepared" out of the new group.ix.... Crowd control , debuffing , and ability to survive makes him very capable on any level. Lastly , the shield is a perk...... dont rely on it for much protection but the melee is great with cryo buff.....especially mixed with snap freeze. Since snap freeze staggers anything non boss even with shields you can literally freeze then walk up and smack anything even on gold.

Modifié par xslick504x, 19 juillet 2012 - 12:58 .

[FabricatedWookie]

wiggums91 wrote...

How do you activate the shield? Is it a power? I can't see it in the power descriptions for him

heavy melee

I was experimenting with the pali earlier and getting murdered, trying to figure out when and where I should drop shield. Usually it ends with tragedy as there will be enemies with flanking angles on me able to murder my face.

Modifié par FabricatedWookie, 19 juillet 2012 - 12:32 .

[DNC Protoman]

Arkley wrote...

On Silver and Gold, he manages well enough - he just doesn't have much in the way of damage, so don't expect to score high alongside competent players with better killing capabilities. Shield Drain is a great ability and Incinerate is passable, decent against armour, though there's virtually no synergy between the two skills. Incinerate could technically detonate a Tech Burst primed by Energy Drain, but you'll have a hell of a time getting Incinerate on an enemy fast enough.

Snap Freeze isn't so hot, though. It's Cryo Blast with bad range and some mediocre damage slapped on. Cryo Blast itself is an unremarkable skill already, and bad range does nothing to improve it.

The shield is crap. People who want to like the class will argue it isn't - as people will always do when they have a personal fondness for an inferior thing, commonly known as "Dreamcast Syndrome" - and they'll be wrong. Yes, it soaks up a fair amount of damage, but only from one direction, at the expense of rooting you to the spot and removing your ability to fight back. It won't protect you from AoEs like rockets/grenades, it won't protect you from being staggered by Brute/Banshee/Atlas/Prime melees, and for all its boasts of high hit points, enemies knife through it like butter on Platinum. It might be useful if it allowed you to move, if it allowed you to fire, or if it protected from all directions, or hell, even if allies could "take cover" on you while you use it. But none of these things are possible, and it's bad.

Weak post, you do not understand the character or the game.

[Saradas85]

I tried it yesterday. It requires tactic, a lot of it. And the team must be very well coordinated, otherwise it's just like an ignored justicar's defensive bubble

[Brownfinger]

Arkley wrote...


The shield is crap. People who want to like the class will argue it isn't - as people will always do when they have a personal fondness for an inferior thing, commonly known as "Dreamcast Syndrome" - and they'll be wrong. Yes, it soaks up a fair amount of damage, but only from one direction, at the expense of rooting you to the spot and removing your ability to fight back. It won't protect you from AoEs like rockets/grenades, it won't protect you from being staggered by Brute/Banshee/Atlas/Prime melees, and for all its boasts of high hit points, enemies knife through it like butter on Platinum. It might be useful if it allowed you to move, if it allowed you to fire, or if it protected from all directions, or hell, even if allies could "take cover" on you while you use it. But none of these things are possible, and it's bad.

Yeah, this is the issue I had with it.
The shield does well enough, but you quickly get overwhelmed by groups if staggered. It doesn't slow them down like I'd hoped. Offense was not a problem for me, as other people say. Shield, snap freeze, shield again to block group fire, mop up with the Reegar. I only tried the class once, and I'd like to learn it and get better. But I tried to face down hordes of enemies with my (maxed out) shield out, and I died often. So it seems that I'm doing something wrong.

[a_alleus]

I've played a couple of games with him now and I jus get frustrated. I know I won't top the score board since I play defense style, and trying to help my teammates. But like with every freaking game with random people, everyone wants to be rambo and just runs of. I would be a fantastic cover for them while soaking up damage, but no one cares. Everyone just wants to run of by themselves and try to gun everything down, not even thinking of playing like a team..

[kyles3]

My experience so far has been that the Paladin can do a little bit of everything: protect teammates, crowd control, and tear down heavies. Depending on weapon choice he can really excel at either support or damage-dealing. Depending on the composition of my team I've been using Falcon with Disruptor ammo or Pihrana with Incendiary.

[silencekills]

 Nope.

Only guy I know who can walk up and pimp slap a Phantom, making her freeze on the spot.

[a_alleus]

I'll just stick with my Fury, a lot more fun to play! Just waiting to get my Destroyer though..

[wiggums91]

FabricatedWookie wrote...

wiggums91 wrote...

How do you activate the shield? Is it a power? I can't see it in the power descriptions for him

heavy melee

I was experimenting with the pali earlier and getting murdered, trying to figure out when and where I should drop shield. Usually it ends with tragedy as there will be enemies with flanking angles on me able to murder my face.

So he has no *actual* heavy melee?

[Mozts]

Weak?

THIS IS SPARTA!!!