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When is it wise to be unwise?


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ussnorway

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Hi guys I’m after a way to drop a couple points of wisdom from Immy... any ideas?

I’ve tried “Ring of Folly” but the effect leaves her uncontrollable (feeblemind).

I’ve tried “Kachiko's Wakizashi +3” but the effect leaves to fast (only two rounds) I need as least three rounds.

I still have my “Red Potion” which will drop it to three but there is only one of them and I’d like to be able to repeat it.

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The Potty 1

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I once played around trying to remove the feeblemind effect while still wearing the ring of folly as a possible way to protect against intelligence drain. I never got anywhere, but didn't try too hard.

This can only be for wish cheese? Vampires and an evil cleric? Note that in vanilla you can talk to the dao with any character, have Immy cast wish and then walk her away and have someone really stupid talk to it. Either SCS2 or the fixpack force the person casting wish to talk to the dao.

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sergio1992

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I cannot help you, but may you explain what you are trying to do? I'm interested. Thanks

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ussnorway

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Yes I tend to play as an evil cleric with Nalia as my mage... her wisdom is 9 so she gets 6 vamps with the L-wish spell for my Cleric to turn but Immy has the uncooperative 11.

IMO cheese would be put the “Red Potion” & ‘L-wish’ scroll into her quick slot & have the ‘Simulacrum’ do the wish or to potion swap the scroll with someone like Minsc but then I’d be no better than the scs-tactics bosses that I’m trying to defeat.

@sergio1992 If L-wish for un-dead protection with less than 11 wisdom the result is 6 vamps called into play which an evil cleric can then ‘Turn’ to your side for a very powerful/ renewable bodyguard... since the pc cannot be a vamp race in this game none of the AI scripts tend to defend themselves very well against getting level drained etc.

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Can't see any easy way around this.

Harmonium halberd has -1 wis but no use to Imoen.
No options around hasted attacks with Kachiko's and Robe of Vecna/AoP?
"Roleplaying" an accident reducing her wisdom with Shadowkeeper?
Do any of the shapeshifting forms (flind etc) alter WIS as well as the physical stats (& if they do can she still cast or can she cast the wish then trigger shapeshift before conversation).

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I believe that casting Chaotic Commands or using a charge of the greenstone amulet prior to equipping the ring will grant immunity to the feeblemindedness effect. I'd never use the vampire army trick though, much too powerful for a (reusable) 7th level spell.

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ussnorway

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First; the good news is that I just tested Gate70s' idea of Robe of Vecna/AoP & polytope your greenstone amulet/ ring of folly both of these work... Just FYI.

The bad news is that I tried and failed to take Abazigal's tactics scs last night without my un-dead buddys... Roquefort anyone?

Thanks for the help guys!

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sergio1992

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Thank you Ussnorway for clarifying my doubts :)

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polytope wrote...

I believe that casting Chaotic Commands or using a charge of the greenstone amulet prior to equipping the ring will grant immunity to the feeblemindedness effect. I'd never use the vampire army trick though, much too powerful for a (reusable) 7th level spell.


Does feeblemind kick in when chaotic commands wears off?

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ussnorway

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No because the spell effect is cast at the time the ring is equipped... I love finding obscure uses for the games little nick-naks.

FYI ‘Cursed scroll of foolishness’ will drop wisdom to 3 points... there is one in the Irenicus Prison Frennedans’ room.