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[LynxAQ]

borelocin wrote...

Very derivative troll post. Nothing innovative or original. 2/10.

Original rating, taking into consideration I already amitted to being bored and trolling. 1/10.

[keesio74]

Yes this game had some elements that reminded me of LoTR. It also reminded me of Dragonlance (Fistandantilis (Flemeth) preparing Raistlin (Morrigan) as a new young host to inhabit when his (her) current body gets old but Raistlin (Morrigan) ends up turning the tables on him (her)).

But you know what? This game still rules.

Modifié par keesio74, 18 décembre 2009 - 01:15 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

LynxAQ wrote...

The part with Frodo / Sam / Smeagle near Minas Morgul. The witch king flies past them as they hide behind the rock (lol) and the army marches out.

Identicle almost.

*coughs* Wizard of Oz *coughs*
Tin-Man, The Lion and Scarecrow observing the Witches guards outside her castle...

If you really want to play the game of such comparisons.

[Ariella]

LynxAQ wrote...

The part with Frodo / Sam / Smeagle near Minas Morgul. The witch king flies past them as they hide behind the rock (lol) and the army marches out.

Identicle almost.

You've got to be kidding me. Did you hurt yourself reaching that far?

And if Alistair's speech was like Aragorn's, it also owed to Independance Day and every pre-battle speech since Saint Crispin's Day in Henry the V:

From this day to the ending of the world,But we in it shall be remembered-We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;For he to-day that sheds his blood with meShall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,This day shall gentle his condition;And gentlemen in England now-a-bedShall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaksThat fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Or as Zev (who'd be channeling Spike) would say "We band of buggered."

Modifié par Ariella, 18 décembre 2009 - 02:39 .

[Maconbar]

Man I thought that the rousing speech was a rip-off from Henry V:



We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;

For he to-day that sheds his blood with me

Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,

This day shall gentle his condition;

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed

Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,

And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks

That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

[Enkara the Red]

Have. Should have.

[Lord Lemartius Marcelios Andreas]

Of all the things I could say in the defense of Dragon Age, the only thing i'm really going to bother to say is



lol.

[Squiggles1334]

Dragon Age: Origins cutscenes ripped off directorial style of Bad Taste and Meet The Feebles.



Discuss.

[KalosCast]

Dragon Age: Origins ripped off the Odyssey by being a video game.

Discuss

[Jayce]

If were going to whine about plagiarism, why don't we first whine at the ghost of John Tolkien for lifting the description of Edoras whole cloth from the description of Heorot in Beowulf?....

 Eh? What's that? It was only inspirational, you say?

...And Bioware can't do the same?

[druidofwarp]

LynxAQ wrote...

This is been bugging me for a while and after watching the cut scene at the start of the dead trenches in my 8th playthrough, I cant bite my tongue anymore. I do enjoy this game else I wouldnt be on my 8th playthrough but this has been bugging me for some time now.

Did you employ LotR screenplay writers for the cinematics or did the cinematics team just not have any original idea of there own? Seriously the cut scenes are so much like lord of the rings that it is almost bordering on copyright imo.

The intro is the only cinematic cut scene that has a slight resemblance but the rest are blatant.

Intro has the voice over explaining some past battle - same as LotR, but thats about as close as it gets.

The Ostagar battle is almost like somebody sat down and said lets make a Helm Deep battle but instead of Gandolf saving the day, Gandolf leaves Helms Deep to burn. Other than that its almost the exact same thing.

All the "dreams" with the archdemon watching / talking to you. Hello great lidless eye???

The scene in deep trenches at the start, is blatant LotR copying, I mean the scene with frodo/sam/smeagle near the dead city when the witchking flies past them and they hide behind a rock (lol), its almost identicle to the deep trenches scene, even had the armies ready to start marching to war lol.

The scene with the voice over by Eamon when you get the cinematic showing the guards changing in the court just after you finished collecting all your troops, its just like the scene with Gandolf giving the voice over as they approached Edoras. For heavens its even done in the same tone and manner.

The final charge with the speech by Alistair or Anora (CAN I SAY YOU SHOULD OF USED LOGHAIN! CAUSE THE SPEECH BY ANORA BEFORE THE FINAL BATTLE AT DENERIM IS AWEFUL AND CRINGEWORTHY), seriously this was a complete ripoff of the final charge by the Rohirrim Horsemen in LotR. Only reason there are no horses is cause the animators where most likely to lazy.

Seriously is it to hard to ask for some originality these days without fail cinematic developers trying to copy LotR (of all things as well).

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i see what you did thar:police:

Lord of the Rings cinematography is a blatant copy of all epic movies. Lol at Peter Jackson's fail. He cant even invent his own cinematography he used towns for settings, and there were people talking, with swords! I mean thats pathetic movies have been using people in their cinematography for decades shame on him for blindly stealing from this tradition and casting humans.

[kevinwastaken]

Bibdy wrote...

If you think you can do better, write up a script and send it in to Bioware.

Fanboy panties stink.

[andysdead]

personally, i don't expect someone with such a weak grasp of the English language to understand the subtleties involved in writing a story. bad troll, moving on.

[andysdead]

keesio74 wrote...

Yes this game had some elements that reminded me of LoTR. It also reminded me of Dragonlance (Fistandantilis (Flemeth) preparing Raistlin (Morrigan) as a new young host to inhabit when his (her) current body gets old but Raistlin (Morrigan) ends up turning the tables on him (her)).

But you know what? This game still rules.

what?

did you ever read Dragonlance....  really?

Fistandantilus was in fact Paladine, Raistlin was a red mage whose lust for power led him down the black mage path and eventually to an attempt to overthrow Takhisis herself.

Hardly the scenario you describe.

[Juggernawt]

LynxAQ wrote...

The part with Frodo / Sam / Smeagle near Minas Morgul. The witch king flies past them as they hide behind the rock (lol) and the army marches out.

Identicle almost.

Sorry, can't abide this any longer. Gollum's name is Smeagol and "identicle" is spelled identical.

[FedericoV]

@OP: It's impossible to reinvent the wheel in fantasy. If you sum up DA:O's story with "the young hero the reunite the lands against the great evil" trope, then, every fantasy book/film game is the same.

What makes the difference between fantasy media are storytelling and world building. And under those standards, Lotr and DA:O are completely different. I'm not speaking of cosmetic differences. The fact that you talk of LOTR as a movie is an indication that you do not know the book very well maybe? Have you read it? Have you read the Silmarillion?

Yep, the battle cinematic are heavily influenced by Lotr but Lotr cinematic were influenced by other movies and books, and so on. Moreover, cinematic are only 1% of the game so I don't think that we can talk about plaguarism because of them.

Lotr is all about good & evil. Tolkien was a very religious person and everything in his creation was strongly influenced with his christian, moralistic and pessimistic view of the world.

In DA:O the Blight is not "The Evil", like Sauron and his army. The Blight is more a force of nature, a trigger that sets thing in stage. The greatest part of the story is not about the blight actually. But about human struggling for power (or freedom, that at the end is a manifestation of power). DA:O is about moral relativism and express a realistic/naturalistic approach towards human struggles and moral/religion. I don't think that Gaider is a religious person, it would be funk to ask.

If you can't see the differences between those setting, I'm sorry but that's your fault.

Modifié par FedericoV, 18 décembre 2009 - 08:18 .

[TastyLaksa]

LynxAQ wrote...

Well lets be honest you just have to go onto any Fantasy Game forum and compare their game to LotR and make it out that LotR is so much more superior and the fanboys and girls are up and arms and grabbing for their pitchforks.

But in all seriousness, the cut scenes are very much like the LotR movie - nobody can deny this. Especially the deep trench one - that was almost a blatant copy paste.

The last time i copy pasted a picture, it turned from yellow to green. So i guess your definition of copy and paste is congruent with mine! How cool is that right?

[TastyLaksa]

kevinwastaken wrote...

Bibdy wrote...

If you think you can do better, write up a script and send it in to Bioware.

Fanboy panties stink.

Last i checked fanGIRLS wore panties and fanBOYS did not. If you're confused ask your parents about the birds and the bees

It's not common for people to cross dress. or is it? I'm confused.

[Tak of the Archives]

Not sure what the original poster was smoking but I'd like some of what he's having. Are you seriously calling Peter Jackson original? I suggest you study some of the basics involved in filmmaking. PJ is just about the most unoriginal filmmaker you could find. He's the Terry Brooks, David Eddings or Dan Brown of the movie world. The cinematics in DA were pretty well done, actually. All Bioware were doing were following established guidelines - which Peter Jackson funnily enough did not invent.

[Mondo_]

The OP, dude you've played the game so much you're seeing **** that isn't there

[Kyberia]

LynxAQ wrote...

But in all seriousness, the cut scenes are very much like the LotR movie - nobody can deny this.

Looks to me like at least 3 pages of people can.

Have to say, I don't see it myself - I have in other games, where yes, you could just do a bit of airbrushing and ta-dah! Orlando Bloom! But in this? Nah, I don't see any similarity in rhythmn, pacing or positioning during the cutscenes aside from some very rudimentary circumstances ("It's a bunch of monsters underground").

<pedant>Also, just because I'm one of those annoying Grammar people, it's spelt Gandalf with an "a." And Tolkein's work was heavily-based on Norse mythology where the term "Middle Earth" originates. But just because you have influences, doesn't make any work less inspired or original - working within a framework of constraints usually requires more thought and imagination, not less.</pendant>

[Boeresmurf]

but but... ostagar has dogs.....who rip darkspawn apart, i found that a cool cinematic part

but OP will prolly compare it to wolveriders......

dude get a life, all games and movies in a specific genre got the same ingredients in story AND cinematic.

because it belongs to that genre.. how would u introduce a big as boss to the party..withour fighting direct after it ? .. they would have to see the boss without him seeing them.



and what would u do iff u saw a big ass dragon demon lord flying past u in some dark underground ruin with a massing army beneath him. i say.... DUCK.



so stop trolling and leave.

[interesting03]

kesayo2 wrote...
Peter Jackson is great at making movies.
.

You should watch some of his old New Zealand films. They're so bad, they're good. In that bad=good sort of way.....

Modifié par interesting03, 18 décembre 2009 - 09:33 .

[ABCoLD]

oh my effing gosh in heaven above.



The guy admitted to trolling.



He then re-iterated his trolling statement pretending he still believed it.



A page and a half of people stupid enough to believe him or too lazy to read the second page of the thread before posting posted.



Could we please get a Mod-lock?