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[NKKKK]

It's expected when you cancel the expansion pack, a big missing chunk of a game was bound to expand the story.

How is this going to be adressed in Dragon Age 3?

Modifié par NKKKK, 19 juillet 2012 - 03:51 .

[wsandista]

Artistic Integrity?

[Maclimes]

That depends wildly on what the actual plot & content of Exalted March was going to be, and what the plot & content of DA3 is.

If Exalted March was a story about Hawke And Friends adventuring around the Free Marches, with no impact on the world at large, there's no plot holes to fill. It just never happened.

If it was about Hawke And Friends assassinating the Divine, and setting fire to half of Orlais, then they will either have to write the plot of DA3 so that never happened, so that it happened at someone else's hand, or summarize it.

It's not real tough, there, either way. Not sure what the concern is.

[NKKKK]

Maclimes wrote...

That depends wildly on what the actual plot & content of Exalted March was going to be, and what the plot & content of DA3 is.

If Exalted March was a story about Hawke And Friends adventuring around the Free Marches, with no impact on the world at large, there's no plot holes to fill. It just never happened.

If it was about Hawke And Friends assassinating the Divine, and setting fire to half of Orlais, then they will either have to write the plot of DA3 so that never happened, so that it happened at someone else's hand, or summarize it.

It's not real tough, there, either way. Not sure what the concern is.

I hope so

[R2s Muse]

I wouldn't be surprised if any of the big-picture, earth-shattering stuff they'd planned for the DLC, if any, is just rolled over into DA3, if take place shortly after DA2. Any of the smaller, Hawke-centered stuff, will just be left up to your imagination. :shrug: It would be nice to have closure on Hawke, but I don't really see any of these unknown storylines as plotholes since we have no idea what happened afterwards, minus the events in Asunder.

[Cimeas]

I think that they will probably just make Exalted March part of DA3, but re-write it so it works with the new character too.

[Jerrybnsn]

Plot holes have become a common theme in Bioware games now. I think it's artsy.

[Fallstar]

I think they said that some of the stuff from Exalted March would be rolled into DA3. Can't find the post now though.

[Fredward]

... Why? Just because it's called the Exalted March doesn't necessarily mean it has anything to do with the holy war or whatever. It COULD be about Hawke's great adventure in reaching the potty. IT COULD BE. IT COULD JUST BE.

And even if it wasn't I see no reason why it couldn't be summarized pretty succinctly at the start of DA3. Besides I don't really need Bioware to hold my hand and point out the obvious, Kirkwall rebelled and this instigated rebellion in the other Circle towers causing either the Divine or other elements in the Chantry to declare war on the mages.

Ta-da.

[King Cousland]

Yeah, it's been stated the most vital parts of Exalted March will be folded into DAIII.

[Arthur Cousland]

...if only the expansion wasn't cancelled.

Hopefully the ending of DA3 won't make it seem like an upcoming expansion is obvious, only for it to never come out.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Looking at DAII, there were going to be plotholes either way.

[batlin]

Let this be a lesson to developers: Don't leave your vanilla game on a cliffhanger for the sake of the DLC.

But frankly, I would not mind one bit if they just erased DA2 from canon. And while they're at it, erase SWTOR from canon too.

[addiction21]

BioWare can not erase SWTOR or KoToR from canon. Well from the extended universe canon.

[Direwolf0294]

I don't think the events of DLC and expansion packs are really ever followed up on fully  in sequels because a lot of the time there's the chance that while someone played the original game they never purchased any of the add ons for it. The events of Awakening didn't really have any impact of DA2 and the events in the ME2 DLC didn't really have any impact on ME3 aside from the odd mention here and there.

[Chiramu]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Plot holes have become a common theme in Bioware games now. I think it's artsy.

"There can be no mistake!"

And also twists and turns that make you want to sort it out with your companions but the story keeps pushing on :<.

[NKKKK]

The events of Awakening didn't really have any impact of DA2 and the events in the ME2 DLC didn't really have any impact on ME3 aside from the odd mention here and there.

Me2 DLC had a pretty big impact, so that's simply not true. The lives of two planets basically hang on Kasumi and Zaaed.

Modifié par NKKKK, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:20 .

[Blacklash93]

Exactly what are we talking about when we say plot hole here? Canceling the expansion certainly does not create plot holes because the plot never never came to exist to us in the first place.

If you're talking about addressing plot holes in DA2, there's little an expansion could do without what can be done is up for game at any point in the series. It's already been said that particular elements from the canceled Exalted March will be carried over to future projects, anyway. Whether that be DA3 or something else is unknown.

Me2 DLC had a pretty big impact

Kasumi and Zaeed never needed to happen. Overlord only gets one cameo. The Shadow Broker helping you out was borderline useless in ME3. Arrival also never needed to happen and Shepard's questionable actions in it never amounted to anything other than passive mentions.

[coldwetn0se]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I don't think the events of DLC and expansion packs are really ever followed up on fully  in sequels because a lot of the time there's the chance that while someone played the original game they never purchased any of the add ons for it. The events of Awakening didn't really have any impact of DA2 and the events in the ME2 DLC didn't really have any impact on ME3 aside from the odd mention here and there.

*Ahem*....Arrival......

[addiction21]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I don't think the events of DLC and expansion packs are really ever followed up on fully  in sequels because a lot of the time there's the chance that while someone played the original game they never purchased any of the add ons for it. The events of Awakening didn't really have any impact of DA2 and the events in the ME2 DLC didn't really have any impact on ME3 aside from the odd mention here and there.

*Ahem*....Arrival......

And it just gets a mention here or there. If you have it or not. It's all there. The only difference is Shepard being the one that did it or not.

NKKKK wrote...

The events of Awakening didn't really have any impact of DA2 and the events in the ME2 DLC didn't really have any impact on ME3 aside from the odd mention here and there.

Me2 DLC had a pretty big impact, so that's simply not true. The lives of two planets basically hang on Kasumi and Zaaed.

Not at all true. You can still save those planets. The only difference is if you import those DLC's you get the super happy everybody but the bad guys win.
Translation: You actually have to make a hard choice and deal with the consequences of it.

Modifié par addiction21, 20 juillet 2012 - 02:28 .

[NKKKK]

Translation: You actually have to make a hard choice and deal with the consequences of it.

You don't have to make a choice if you already made a choice.

[addiction21]

NKKKK wrote...

Translation: You actually have to make a hard choice and deal with the consequences of it.

You don't have to make a choice if you already made a choice.

And that choice would be buying the DLC or not. Nothing to do with my characters actions. Are you actually defending DLC now?

[NKKKK]

addiction21 wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Translation: You actually have to make a hard choice and deal with the consequences of it.

You don't have to make a choice if you already made a choice.

And that choice would be buying the DLC or not. Nothing to do with my characters actions. Are you actually defending DLC now?

ON GAWD AM I A bio-drone NOW?

No I'm not defending DLC, I adhore day one DLC, but THEY DO make an impact. You can't pretend they don't.

edit:lol bio drone is censored.

Modifié par NKKKK, 20 juillet 2012 - 02:56 .

[addiction21]

Not worth it

Modifié par addiction21, 20 juillet 2012 - 03:04 .

[Kidd]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Overlord only gets one cameo.

Three, actually.

Yes, I'm a betterwitter =)