Well if the paladin is suppose to be a defensive support class why shouldn't he be able to move with the shield I mean does it weigh more then the guardians shield I don't think it does if does then I guess that makes sense.
Espically during escort or delivery missions you can't be defensive with the paladin because you're grounded in one spot while your whole team is moving with the objective and getting shot up you can't provide the proper support or the support that would keep your team alive.
Also how would slow movement speed make this class overpowered his shield breaks after enough projectile damage and shatters mostly immediately from melee the ability to move slowly should definitly not cause this class to be overpowered but to be the defensive support sentinel that he is suppose to be.
What Would Be Wrong For The Paladin To Have Slow Movement Speed Like The Cerberus Guardian?
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LiarasShield
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:48
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I assumed that he could move slowly as well. The promotional image for the Earth DLC implied movement.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:49
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100% agree.
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LET THEM MOVE
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LET THEM MOVE
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:49
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theillusiveman11 wrote...
I assumed that he could move slowly as well. The promotional image for the Earth DLC implied movement.
I mean you can't really provide good cover for your team or being that good defensive shield if you can't even move a little bit lol.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:49
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Would be nice, I like him how he is but he cant do Escorts so easily
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:51
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well I mean you can't provide true good support with your squad if your grounded because usally your team mates are moving all around or your enemies will flank you from behind or around the map you can't do very well if your grounded in spot and can't move.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:57
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iplay222 wrote...
Would be nice, I like him how he is but he cant do Escorts so easily
I mean you can barely do anything to be the shield for your team if you can't even move,
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 03:59
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:00
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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Already had a topic on something going the same route:
http://social.biowar.../index/13216613
Well I mean we don't even need a weapon just let us be defenseive support for our team lol.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:02
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LiarasShield wrote...
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Already had a topic on something going the same route:
http://social.biowar.../index/13216613
Well I mean we don't even need a weapon just let us be defenseive support for our team lol.
Movement with the shield deployed was a point others made however. There was quite some nice ideas flowing in there until it got swallowed up by the FTL forum.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:02
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like to be able to do a running Shield Bash?
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:04
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AresKeith wrote...
like to be able to do a running Shield Bash?
Nay just slow movement when grounding the shield not a runing bash lol
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:06
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Welcome back, OP.
I still haven't got any of the new characters but agree the inability to move seems very strange. Movement at a reduced speed (like when you're carrying the delivery object) would make more sense.
I still haven't got any of the new characters but agree the inability to move seems very strange. Movement at a reduced speed (like when you're carrying the delivery object) would make more sense.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:07
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Was really disappointed with him, especially since he can't move with the shield. Signed
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:08
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gethinych wrote...
Welcome back, OP.
I still haven't got any of the new characters but agree the inability to move seems very strange. Movement at a reduced speed (like when you're carrying the delivery object) would make more sense.
Exactly slow movement speed when you have a objective or slow movement like the guardian and it would be perfect
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:08
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LiarasShield wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
like to be able to do a running Shield Bash?
Nay just slow movement when grounding the shield not a runing bash lol
yea, I thought we was gonna be able move some with the Shield out like the Cerberus Guardians
but sadly I only have the Demolisher and the new shotgun with new mods
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:09
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What if the shield could absorb damage and throw it back at enemies when it is destroyed or toggled off? Maybe that damage could prime a BE, making the paladin a little more sentinelish.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:10
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I think it would be too late to add movement, they'd have to animate it and patch it if they didn't already have animations done for it. I really would like movement, but at this point I'm just happy the class is good enough to plat with.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:11
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Its rather silly that Paladin can't move when his shield is up. Cerb Guardians carry metal shields and can weild a Talon whilst moving to attack you.
The paladin on the other hand, has a forcefield shield (much lighter than metal) so it makes more sense that he'd be able to move with it and carry a small side arm.
Bioware should make it that the paladin can move slowly with shield out IF he's carrying a small pistol or SMG. You only need one hand to fire those types of weapons, hell you could probably get away with a low-recoil shotty. AR's and SR's though, u would need both hands to aim properly.
The paladin on the other hand, has a forcefield shield (much lighter than metal) so it makes more sense that he'd be able to move with it and carry a small side arm.
Bioware should make it that the paladin can move slowly with shield out IF he's carrying a small pistol or SMG. You only need one hand to fire those types of weapons, hell you could probably get away with a low-recoil shotty. AR's and SR's though, u would need both hands to aim properly.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:11
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Mike 9987 wrote...
What if the shield could absorb damage and throw it back at enemies when it is destroyed or toggled off? Maybe that damage could prime a BE, making the paladin a little more sentinelish.
I'd go with that lol
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:11
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Manuel La Bor wrote...
I think it would be too late to add movement, they'd have to animate it and patch it if they didn't already have animations done for it. I really would like movement, but at this point I'm just happy the class is good enough to plat with.
Actually they could easily patch espically if the paladin is a model off the cerberus guardian but with a different appearance they could add a patch to incorporate the guardians movements as the paladins own I don't think that would be too hard to do and still not have to change the over all progaming to accomplish it.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:14
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Manuel La Bor wrote...
I think it would be too late to add movement, they'd have to animate it and patch it if they didn't already have animations done for it. I really would like movement, but at this point I'm just happy the class is good enough to plat with.
Yeah, I believe that will be the nail making this permanent. Plus, mechanically, I kind of guess that it would not be easy to do since they have it implemented as a heavy melee attack. No heavy melee attack goes beyond two phases of animation: the initial seeking (movement) and the final attacking phase (without movement). Making it a movable thing may not be straightforward to do given the nature of melee attacks.
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Posté 19 juillet 2012 - 04:14
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LiarasShield wrote...
Actually they could easily patch espically if the paladin is a model off the cerberus guardian but with a different appearance they could add a patch to incorporate the guardians movements as the paladins own I don't think that would be too hard to do and still not have to change the over all progaming to accomplish it.
It depends on how their models are set up. They might have to do some extra animation work.
I'm also guessing that the shield is hard-coded to prevent movement, so they would need to revamp that part of the code.
At the very least it would require a patch, so I probably wouldn't expect it to change soon if it's going to change at all.
Personally, I think the Paladin is quite good, but I suspect that they'll buff him in a weekly balance change due to the hate he's getting right now.
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