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#51
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If they gave me something like 10k on gold and 20 k for platinum I'd extract. right now I only do it sometimes for fun if I feel like it, but usually wipe on wave 10.

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More incentive other than xp works for me.

I do really like that idea of being able to keep equipment, though.

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DarkerCompanion wrote...

I'm using Ammo gear on about 90% of matches. If I keep it varied, I can use them indefinitely. I was trying to use them up then horde rank IVs, but I'm getting both faster than I can use them, so I may use the IVs as well. I still can't use just one though . . . I've been using Incendiaries for Platinum, and they are dropping slightly faster than I would have liked. I usually use Armor amps as well, as long as I keep it mixed up. Cyclonic IIIs and Power Amp IIIs are good, since the IVs are out.

My Sniper Amps are a temporary thing though; they are definitely dropping faster than I can use them.

I'm using Rockets on Plat. Still no need on Gold.

Also; Krysae GI is more useful than ever! Though I did find a new love in the Demolisher-Harrier combo!


I'm so happy to finally have a plethora of ammo mods... I was perpetually out of them when all I got was character cards... I use them every match too. I save my level IVs for Platinum exclusively, especially Armor Piercing ammo, Disruptor Ammo and Cyclonic Modulators.

Gold wave 10 is rocket worthy IMO... 33k or whatever it is, is a decent chunk that I don't want to jeopoardize by being cheap with highly replaceable rockets.

Krysae GI is good on Platinum... but the biggest difference maker in Platinum IMO... the good ole' Salarian Engineer. All he does is win... everytime. Been rocking him with Scorpion w/ Disruptor IV, tech bursting the shields off everything, keeping the mobs out of the camping spot, allowing us time to kill the Banshees that break the line. I was using the GPS, but I can actually kill significantly faster with the Scorpion and tech bursts, tanking with energy drain.

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5-10k on Gold. More on Platinum, I'd do it. IF I got to keep my consumables, I'd try for it 100% of the times.

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Agreed wholeheartedly. The fact that people are dying purposefully because it's more efficient is definitely not something I think BioWare wants in their game. A credit pay out that is even slightly more lucrative than dying after wave 10 objective would be fine with me.

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Chriss5688 wrote...

Curunen wrote...

Keeping consumables for staying alive and extracting would be fantastic. Better than a credit reward I think.


Agreed.


Definitely.

#57
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I would go out of my way to extract if there was a chance I could keep my consumables. Shotgun amps and AP ammo has a lower drop rate than Ultra Rares for me.

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 ill admit, im one of those gamers who gets a little peeved if people dont extract, or they just stop playing after wave 10 ...
i think there should be a penalty for not being extracted ... 
like unused consumables are removed from your stocks. (you didnt come back alive, so why should they stay with you?)
Lose the character? - might annoy some people into getting out alive if they have to level up again after failing to extract.
if thats too harsh; lose levels / xp?
and a penalty on your squads earnings for you not getting out ... that would make people a little more tight knit on the final wave.

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I made an exact thread like this a while ago :D
http://social.biowar.../index/11519988

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Yes. I always extract anyways for the fun of it but I won't use consumables unless i'm not a Lvl 20 and i'm trying to level up.

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Wow I've never seen the BSN wholeheartedly agree on one thing lolT

Thanks for the feedback and support guys

#62
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Bump for discussion!

More I think about it the more I like my 2nd idea

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ntrisley wrote...

Jayhau wrote...

Anyone actually against this?

If so I'd like to hear why.

Having your bonus items carry over only means people want to extract! I'd even say only those who make it get to keep their gear. Reward good players that *gasp* actually play the game!

Not extracting is not a full round..

I like the idea of consumables carry over after you get extracted.

That said, another idea I would like?

Bronze Extraction: Each player who successfully extracted gets a free Veteran Pack.
Silver Extraction: Each player who successfully extracted gets a free Spectre Pack OR Jumbo Equipment Pack at the end of the match.
Gold Extraction: Each player who successfully extracted gets a free Premium Spectre Pack OR Jumbo Equipment Pack at the end of the match.
Platinum Extraction: Each player who successfully extracted gets a free Premium Spectre Pack and Jumbo Equipment Pack.

It will make people actually play smart on extraction and use missiles against things like Phantoms/Banshees/Atlases.

The only problem is that BioWare will have to fix it so that if you get revived inside the circle or are inside the circle and go down at 0:00 you still count for Extraction, because otherwise that would just be silly.


This! I would love if this was implemented. That would definitely give me a hell of a lot more incentive to extract.:D

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It is pointless if everyone has level 20 character for a start, all your gaining is xp and its not alot for extraction anyway. Fact is you've completed the same map so many times, so what if you dont get full extraction a few times? You know you've beat it, where the satisafaction FW/G/G anyway! Haha

I still dont understand on FW/G/G people want to get extracted yet there happy to stay for 3-4 games, bizarre.

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 well... i love the keeping gear part .. but they are consumables .. i dont know if ...
lets take gold for example ... i get full extraction 90% of the time ... that meens i would ALWAYS (use and need) 1 set of every amo lvl IV witch .. kinda breaks the idea of consumables 
i do love the idea tho .. but i dont see it being added .. maby if : 

solo = 50 % chance to keep 1 of your 3 equipment - at random + 2.5% credit
partial = keep 1 equipment at random + 5% credit
ful =50% chance to keep 1 / 50% chance to keep 2  + 7.5% credit 

Modifié par R-Oak, 20 juillet 2012 - 07:34 .


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R-Oak wrote...

 well... i love the keeping gear part .. but they are consumables .. i dont know if ...
lets take gold for example ... i get full extraction 90% of the time ... that meens i would ALWAYS (use and need) 1 set of every amo lvl IV witch .. kinda breaks the idea of consumables 
i do love the idea tho .. but i dont see it being added .. maby if : 

solo = 50 % chance to keep 1 of your 3 equipment - at random + 2.5% credit
partial = keep 1 equipment at random + 5% credit
ful =50% chance to keep 1 / 50% chance to keep 2  + 7.5% credit 



Yea I see your point. I like your suggestion though, good work here.

You don't think it should be individually based though? People who make it should reap the rewards no?

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Jayhau wrote...

R-Oak wrote...

 well... i love the keeping gear part .. but they are consumables .. i dont know if ...
lets take gold for example ... i get full extraction 90% of the time ... that meens i would ALWAYS (use and need) 1 set of every amo lvl IV witch .. kinda breaks the idea of consumables 
i do love the idea tho .. but i dont see it being added .. maby if : 

solo = 50 % chance to keep 1 of your 3 equipment - at random + 2.5% credit
partial = keep 1 equipment at random + 5% credit
ful =50% chance to keep 1 / 50% chance to keep 2  + 7.5% credit 



Yea I see your point. I like your suggestion though, good work here.

You don't think it should be individually based though? People who make it should reap the rewards no?


ok .. so lets recap !

SOLO EXTRACTION = 
Soldier standing bonus
50 % chance to keep 1 of your 3 equipment for 
 at random 
Squad bonus =   + 2.5% credit  

PARTIAL EXTRACTION  = 
Soldiers standing bonus = 100% chance to keep 1 equipment at random  
Squad bonus =   + 5% credit  

FULL EXTRACTION  =   
Soldiers standing bonus
50% chance to keep 1 / 50% chance to keep 2 equipment at random
Squad bonus =   + 7.5% credit   

nice team effort :D<3

Modifié par R-Oak, 20 juillet 2012 - 07:49 .


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I've been in a few groups that have purposely wiped after 10. I stay alive as long as possible just because I think it's stupid to lose on purpose. Made it to extraction on Silver with a lvl 4 BS the last time. I joined a bronze lobby, got ninja'd up to silver, didn't come in last and made it to extraction when others kept performing suicide by Geth Prime when I and the other survivor revived them. The two intentional losers left the lobby immediately.

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Let us keep our equipment.

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There absolutely needs to be some incentive. I don't care what it is, but the whole "we got paid, so we can die now" thing is a major downer.

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R-Oak: I'm on my phone so I can't reply/quote well

But I like this idea more and more. I think the % is a little wonky tho and just adds a hidden modifier.

Maybe have set values for each solo, partial and full for each difficulty? I honestly don't know what would be easier.

I think if you kept all 3 gear that would be too much, as you pointed out, but guaranteeing 1 is a great idea. 50% on others adds to the randomness that is ME MP.

1 issue though is sometimes people only use 1 piece a match and for this I say that the category is chosen at RANDOM. So if you dont have an ammo gear on and it get randomed you gain nothing? Gives incentive to suit up and it inversely deals with the influx of gear people will have from extracting more often. Why do ya think?

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uv23 wrote...

There absolutely needs to be some incentive. I don't care what it is, but the whole "we got paid, so we can die now" thing is a major downer.


This..because I hate being a quitter in a game kind of situation. 

#73
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Beause of this weekend event I'm worried about people wiping not wanting to spend even more time extracting.

Once you extract this weekend, why do it again?

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Credits should only be awarded from the objectives to team members who extract. No bonus credits.


Simple. If you die, you don't get paid.

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5k for full extraction

Be careful what you ask for maybe they will punish us for not extracting , like say ok don't extract half creds half $ not to team but if you die punished live. And don't extract punished...

So just. Think about that please lol