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[8 Bears]

They used to send replies back in a matter of days, but I suppose with the sharp incline of glitchers now it's taking a while longer.

[galaxygrunt]

I got an audio message from someone I don't know--something about his being in the lobby, had a game set-up, aim bots, yadayadayada, and it would only cost me 1500msp.

My question is, is it even worth reporting, or does someone like this just move from dummy account to dummy account?

[ShiroDNX]

Nozlander wrote...

Meatiershower wrote...

Nozlander wrote...

I'm i have to admit i get a little worried now when i join random games as i like the scorpion as my back up gun that i may trigger the glitch. I have no clue how its done and prefer not to know but can it be done by mistake?

If it does, just use your other gun. I use the Falcon, Striker, and Scorpion constantly, and still have never accidently hit this glitch.

Cool thats good to know

Bit hard to do it by accident, but possible. Can't be hosting, and you need to have the ML out first. Just using your gun normally won't randomly drop a missle, so don't worry too much.

If you want the details to be extra safe, though, there are youtube vids.

[ElefantesPintadas]

Lynx7725 wrote...

Ok, I'm going to discuss some things that often people don't want to hear.

When an accusation of cheating is made, at the end of the day an 'authority' like the ME3 MP Ban team has an obligation to make a fair and unbiased examination of the situation. What constitutes 'fair and unbiased'?

Not your word for it, because the average player may mistake a genuine missile user who, for example, had been in MP since the early days, and has managed to get the 10 Missile cap, for someone who is glitching.

Or a malicious player who is out to grief another player, to get said player banned.

Not a screenshot, as those can be doctored. And also, can be captured either deliberately or accidentally in the wrong context.

End of the day, the ban team can't go just by your word or your pics. They have to have more ironclad evidence, something that didn't come from you.

Why can't they use those? Because when, not if, they are challenged by the banned party, they have to have that solid evidence to tell that party to f**k off. It must be proven without doubt, with undisputable evidence, that the banned had indeed violated the terms and agreements.

This is to assure all users that if they get a complaint from someone, the authority will investigate in an inbiased and fair manner. No such thing as banning based on hearsay.

So what would constitute evidence? An unbiased source. The logged messages that is sent to EA during every match.

But there is a problem. There can be thousands of matches during any one period, each sending thousands of messages. The team has to go through these, to sieve out those relevant to the reported person. Yes, there are shortcuts to help sieve these out but even after you go through that, you still have to analyse the messages to establish that the player is consistently cheating.. Because accidents do happen.

So what happens after the team proves a player is cheating? Well because the ban team is not likely to be part of the accounts admin team -- segregation of duties to prevent abuse -- they have to batch and send the info to the accounts admin team. And that's lucky if it's an Origins account, because that's bioware team to another EA department. If it's a XBL or PSN player then bioware may have to go through EA to Microsoft or Sony. And then it depends on the procedures Sony and Microsoft has, because banning those players means they cannot access their network... Which may not be what they want!

Basically, these things take time, quite a bit of it. Ends up we 'by the book' players have to be patient and bear with the cheaters. At least Bioware has demonstrated some commitment to stomp out the cheaters.

You make a good point here, and I'm going to respond to the bolded sections:

1. In my case, this player genuinely used nothing but missiles the entire match, to the point where the kill feed was nothing but their Name [Missile Launcher] Enemy the entire match.

2. If this is the case, then why bother to proactively have us report activity? If they can't go on hearsay and photo evidence included then why ask us to be involved in the first place? In my case, they were cheating, end of. There's no grey area and he admitted to doing it, and yet he is still not banned. Therefore my several reportings of this were pointless.