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[Chas_Man]

Has Bioware ever considered making an RPG based on the Vampire The Masquerade universe. There have been a couple so far, Redemption (so-so) and Bloodlines (good but not great). I really think that Bioware could do this license justice. Vampire The Masquerade is very focused around dialogue and character development, this is something that Bioware is obviously great at. Has the idea ever been considered?

[SardaukarElite]

With the exception of SW:TOR BioWare hasn't touched another person's IP in a long time, and I don't think they really want to go back to working on other people's worlds.

Also I'm not convinced BioWare has the right style for a Vampire: TM game.

Word on the street is that CCP is making an MMO for the World of Darkness universe though.

Modifié par SardaukarElite, 18 décembre 2009 - 03:15 .

[Chas_Man]

With the dialogue that I've seen in Dragon age and Mass Effect I think that their style would actually work rather well in VTM. Just because they haven't done an RPG quite like VTM, it doesn't mean they couldn't do it well. It would be nice to actually hear from someone that works for Bioware.

[SardaukarElite]

Chas_Man wrote...

With the dialogue that I've seen in Dragon age and Mass Effect I think that their style would actually work rather well in VTM. Just because they haven't done an RPG quite like VTM, it doesn't mean they couldn't do it well.

I meant style as in the mood and feel of the game. I like BioWare, but I've yet to see them do anything nearly as dark as Bloodlines.

Chas_Man wrote...
It would be nice to actually hear from someone that works for Bioware.

Well either they're not working on it, in which case  you probably won't get an answer. Or they are and haven't announced it yet, in which case you won't get an answer.

Modifié par SardaukarElite, 18 décembre 2009 - 03:51 .

[Monstruo696]

No, Bioware won't do V:TM. It is also not their style.



I would say Bethesda would be a more fitting candidate, but that's not very encouraging either.

[Chas_Man]

No, Betheda's style of RPG is not well suited to VTM, it's just to generic

[Sa Seba]

VTM was pretty unique in a way that it's better left alone. Maybe someday an independent studio will pick up the task. Anything else will destroy it.

[DirtyCleo]

That's a great idea. Bloodlines was incredible. Poor, poor Troika. So much potential destroyed by corporate marketing.



But...



Bethesda would make it a console game and suck its soul right out, creating a flaccid peanut-popper game for little girls and probably use the same four voice actors that did the entire Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 sets.



And Bioware seriously doesn't have the balls to make a game with real mature content for smart people. It'd be a laughable joke if they tried. Oh, wait, they did:



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[Monstruo696]

Chas_Man wrote...

No, Betheda's style of RPG is not well suited to VTM, it's just to generic

And VTM wasn't?

All it had was the vampiric elements and interesting setting.  VTM did not have a sandbox, the FPS was poor, the melee was poor, most powers for exception of celerity (which was fun) were rather drab, character building was laughable at best.

It was a fun game, but it was by no mean 'groundbreaking' or even good.

[Bagenholt]

Get out.

[Monstruo696]

Bagenholt wrote...

Get out.

You directing that at me?

[SanitariumPr]

Well there is also White Wolf that might say some thing about others going around with their products so I dont think either that Bioware has the interest to take that door. But hoping so so so so much that the word on the street would be true and MMO would be on it's way...

[Snoteye]

Monstruo696 wrote...

All it had was the vampiric elements and interesting setting. VTM did not have a sandbox, the FPS was poor, the melee was poor, most powers for exception of celerity (which was fun) were rather drab, character building was laughable at best.

It was a fun game, but it was by no mean 'groundbreaking' or even good.

Never before have I seen one dare direct such harsh criticism at VTM: Bloodlines.

I can subscribe to your opinion.

[Alexus_VG]

Hmm...actually I think that Bioware would do a great job of it and being somewhat of an oWOD fan the idea seems appealing. That said though I don't think it's very likely to happen.

[SardaukarElite]

Monstruo696 wrote...

It was a fun game, but it was by no mean 'groundbreaking' or even good.

It wasn't a good game if you look at just the mechanics. But its style was groundbreaking. The way the game brought the setting to life and set the mood was nothing short of brilliant.

Monstruo696 wrote...
VTM did not have a sandbox

Good.

[darkshadow136]

Thats a great idea I loved Vampire the Masquerade bloodlines.

[Few87]

Troika were the true masters, i think bioware would make a good game but i dont think it would feel quite right. I think biowares dialogue is a little to happy if you know what i mean and they only make games that have epic storys. I suppose it couldnt hurt for them to try though and at least it would be a new vampires game rather than run through 500000000 of VtM:B for me!

[JKhristian]

I would love a VTM game by Bioware. Its just to bad White Wolf killed off the setting. And left us with the Requiem.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

SardaukarElite wrote...

Monstruo696 wrote...

It was a fun game, but it was by no mean 'groundbreaking' or even good.

It wasn't a good game if you look at just the mechanics. But its style was groundbreaking. The way the game brought the setting to life and set the mood was nothing short of brilliant.

Monstruo696 wrote...
VTM did not have a sandbox

Good.

I'd have to agree with you Sardaukar , it easily make smy top 10 games list. And it's what got me into WOD in the first place(Malkavians FTW!). Even Redemption was awesome even thought it was a different style..

As for Bioware making a WOD game, I don't think that would be a good idea. Bioware's writing style wouldn't fit the horror mood/setting that well.

[Taritu]

SardaukarElite wrote...

With the exception of SW:TOR BioWare hasn't touched another person's IP in a long time, and I don't think they really want to go back to working on other people's worlds.

Also I'm not convinced BioWare has the right style for a Vampire: TM game.

Word on the street is that CCP is making an MMO for the World of Darkness universe though.

The old universe, or the rebooted one?

[SardaukarElite]

Taritu wrote...

The old universe, or the rebooted one?

Couldn't say. I'd assume the later, but that's based on the behaviour of other publishers.

[Amberyl Ravenclaw]

SardaukarElite wrote...

Also I'm not convinced BioWare has the right style for a Vampire: TM game.

Good gods. Can you imagine the romanceable companions? *shudders* 

[Beechwell]

SardaukarElite wrote...

It wasn't a good game if you look at just the mechanics. But its style was groundbreaking. The way the game brought the setting to life and set the mood was nothing short of brilliant.

That's what I wanted to say as well. Sure combat wasn't great (but curiously more fun than in the Witcher for example), but it's strenghs were the amazing atmosphere, storyline and game world. I don't know ay other RPG that lets you immerse yourself so well into a character. And that to me was worth more than some weaknesses in combat.
And I thought the leveling system was excellent as well. Skill based, so good flexibility; not too complicated, yet with enough skills to make a different characters; and not solely aimed at combat effectiveness. What would be the reason to dislike the system?
Also I just loved the approach to experience gain. Since XP was only gained via quests, it supported different approaches to quest solutions. Also it  didn't encourage the obsessive search for xp (and loot). I found that very refreshing compared to other RPGs. But I suppose that is a matter of taste.

Should Bioware indeed try their hands on a similar setting, my only hope is that they abandon their typical KOTOR structure (basecamp, travel-to-four-destinations mid-game, etc.). I don't think that would lend itself well to a Vampire game.

[Monstruo696]

Beechwell wrote...

I don't know ay other RPG that lets you immerse yourself so well into a character.

You obviously haven't played STALKER.

[Beechwell]

Monstruo696 wrote...
You obviously haven't played STALKER.

No, I haven't - not yet