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Back Off My Pylon!!! A Demolisher PSA


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#76
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ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

I agree with the above.. he's probably sarcastic, but if someone said that... id say sure... as long as it works. I just assume if you put a pylon up its for whoever needs the,..... I. TRY. To leave the demolisher their grenades... but if I need them I grab them (sometimes by accident)...... and your statement about the demolisher putting them to better use..... one thing to say..... n7destroyer.... those multifrags are quite possibly the single most wonderful, useful grenade in the game.... huge damage in one spot if yer close ... giant carpet bomb from far away.... so if I'm playing destroyer and you're plying demolisher.... its best if you go for ammo boxes since you are considerably more mobile.... though like I said I'll use your pylon as last resort.... anywy what the heck bioware?? You give us a class that spawns grenades, but has no offensive powers besides grenade.... way to make an unsupportive support class....


that is way too many ellipses man

but I agree with what you're saying.

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Pylon (Weap Damage/Frequency/Shields) + Typhoon + Recoil Mod V (OR Ammo mod V) + AP Mod V = Player version of Cerberus Turret.
I'm perfectly fine with others taking grenades. (But I'll need a few homing ones stocked up just in case enemies get too close and the team needs to remove armor fast)

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

Amnesiotic wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

As much as I am addicted to the homing Grenades I just use the reg Ammo Boxes for more. I don't use a Pylon until we do hacking or extraction


That's like playing QM and not using TacScan. I mean, you don't even have Pylon sharing cooldown with anything:huh:

Don't know how thats the same since TacScan can be used on the go to get extra damage and the Pylon I would need to be right by to use in the middle of a firefight with a Brute or Banshee which in most cases isn't a good idea

yes, you are correct, setting up the pylon inthe middle of a firefight IS a bad idea. this is why you take cover....
i cant understand why you basically say its useless "( I only use it for hacking/extraction!)" when it can give you 2 grenades constantly. why even play the class?

I did'nt say it's useless I said there is no point in using it if I'm not holding a spot and cover doesn't help aganst a gang of Brutes or Banshees lol

yes there is you get 2 grenades lol. i leave pylons  all over the map if the team is working mobile. it doesnt take long to make one. if you have a short cooldown you can get new grenades every 5-6 seconds. thats a lot of grenades you are potentially not obtaining.

I could do that but it's just not what I use it for. I use it mostly to heal the teams shields and get extra damage and if we are always mobile I'm not gaining those benefits.

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

Way to be a team player.

But it's a support class. Do some supporting. 

The thread should of ended here.

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Dorje Sylas wrote...

WarGriffin wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

What I've noticed is that people seem to forget that normal ammo boxes exists once the pylon goes down. All they do is just cluster around it and gaze into its whirlly colored lights, waiting for the 10/15 second ammo kami to drop more goodies.

It's both funny and really annoying.


But but it shines!


Correction, I've seen just about everyone but a Krogan get blinky light blinded by the Pylon. You would be the first.


...What's that suppose to mean -picks up pylon like Baseball bat-

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ok - for the most part - im a team player - get in there take what you want - but today i had a match w/ one of my friends (destroyer) and 2 randoms - one of the randoms we picked up was another demolisher - i thoght - this is gonna be awesome.

The bastard spammed grenades STUPIDLY - like - on single husks, and swarmer packs... then - he would run to his pylon, grab grenades, run to my pylon and grab grenades, and start all over again.

I don't mind sharing my nades - but man - if you are a demolisher too - you damn well make enough grenades on your own if your using them wisely. if you need TWO pylons to supply you - your doing it WRONG.

My destroyer buddy was hurting for nades too - we ended up having to use ammo packs on the final waves. I asked politely for him to stop hogging all the nades - no go. so he got kicked at the end of the match.

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ufc345 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

Amnesiotic wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

As much as I am addicted to the homing Grenades I just use the reg Ammo Boxes for more. I don't use a Pylon until we do hacking or extraction


That's like playing QM and not using TacScan. I mean, you don't even have Pylon sharing cooldown with anything:huh:

Don't know how thats the same since TacScan can be used on the go to get extra damage and the Pylon I would need to be right by to use in the middle of a firefight with a Brute or Banshee which in most cases isn't a good idea

yes, you are correct, setting up the pylon inthe middle of a firefight IS a bad idea. this is why you take cover....
i cant understand why you basically say its useless "( I only use it for hacking/extraction!)" when it can give you 2 grenades constantly. why even play the class?

I did'nt say it's useless I said there is no point in using it if I'm not holding a spot and cover doesn't help aganst a gang of Brutes or Banshees lol

yes there is you get 2 grenades lol. i leave pylons  all over the map if the team is working mobile. it doesnt take long to make one. if you have a short cooldown you can get new grenades every 5-6 seconds. thats a lot of grenades you are potentially not obtaining.

I could do that but it's just not what I use it for. I use it mostly to heal the teams shields and get extra damage and if we are always mobile I'm not gaining those benefits.

 it doesnt heal shields, it boosts maximum shields....

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

Amnesiotic wrote...

ufc345 wrote...

As much as I am addicted to the homing Grenades I just use the reg Ammo Boxes for more. I don't use a Pylon until we do hacking or extraction


That's like playing QM and not using TacScan. I mean, you don't even have Pylon sharing cooldown with anything:huh:

Don't know how thats the same since TacScan can be used on the go to get extra damage and the Pylon I would need to be right by to use in the middle of a firefight with a Brute or Banshee which in most cases isn't a good idea

yes, you are correct, setting up the pylon inthe middle of a firefight IS a bad idea. this is why you take cover....
i cant understand why you basically say its useless "( I only use it for hacking/extraction!)" when it can give you 2 grenades constantly. why even play the class?

I did'nt say it's useless I said there is no point in using it if I'm not holding a spot and cover doesn't help aganst a gang of Brutes or Banshees lol

yes there is you get 2 grenades lol. i leave pylons  all over the map if the team is working mobile. it doesnt take long to make one. if you have a short cooldown you can get new grenades every 5-6 seconds. thats a lot of grenades you are potentially not obtaining.

I could do that but it's just not what I use it for. I use it mostly to heal the teams shields and get extra damage and if we are always mobile I'm not gaining those benefits.

 it doesnt heal shields, it boosts maximum shields....

I was sure it did most of been just a coincidence then

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Tyriael_Soban wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Way to be a team player.

But it's a support class. Do some supporting. 

The thread should of ended here.


Who defines that it is a support class? I say other classes are there to support the demolisher. :) So they stay in camp and just watch the demolisher's back as she chunks grenades. :)


Actually if others are taking the grenades when they KNOW the demolisher only has grenades for powers they are being selfish and poor squadmates. :wizard:

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There was this awesome Demolisher in a FBWGG group one time, and he dropped his canister where the people who do all the wall grabs sit. Was awesome. Never had to get up to refill my gun, I could just hang there and keep blasting things as they came instead of needing to move away to refill.

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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Actually if others are taking the grenades when they KNOW the demolisher only has grenades for powers they are being selfish and poor squadmates.


Agree w/ this to some extent.

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Bet $100 OP is an xbox player. 

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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Tyriael_Soban wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Way to be a team player.

But it's a support class. Do some supporting. 

The thread should of ended here.


Who defines that it is a support class? I say other classes are there to support the demolisher. :) So they stay in camp and just watch the demolisher's back as she chunks grenades. :)


Actually if others are taking the grenades when they KNOW the demolisher only has grenades for powers they are being selfish and poor squadmates. :wizard:


If you really feel that way then do you agree that Bioware should just change the supply pylon such that it only grants grenades to the demolisher who constructed it?

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I really don't care about the grenades given by the pylon, in matter of fact, i prefer that way because i can have al the grenades from the ammo box while they are wating for the pylon to throw the ammo and the grenades

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Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...
Who defines that it is a support class? I say other classes are there to support the demolisher. :) So they stay in camp and just watch the demolisher's back as she chunks grenades. :)


Actually if others are taking the grenades when they KNOW the demolisher only has grenades for powers they are being selfish and poor squadmates. :wizard:

Grenade supplies are crippled specifically to allow non-granades classes some enemies to kill.  That has driven some players to find other classes to play.  I've been an Asari Adept with a Geth SMG since Saturday because she rarely needs to visit an ammo box for anything.  Now that I've unlocked the Demolisher I intend to use it, but it looks like I need to hope that I have time to deploy it frequently when alone to boost my inventory. 

If you have multiple Demolishers deploying in the same area, do the pylons resupply based on their deploy time differences or do they sync up?  I have friends that have also unlocked it, and if two of the pylons kept the supply coming every 6 seconds the fight for the grenades would probably be smaller...

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soldo9149 wrote...

Dude with the soldier turian and new n7 I sit next to your pylon and open fire on anything that moves with my shiny new Typhoon and it works well.


Priceless.

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Grenade pylon is for the team to use. And there really isn't much you can do about it

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Angel Beats wrote...

You must construct additional pylons.


:wizard:

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TianKY wrote...
If you really feel that way then do you agree that Bioware should just change the supply pylon such that it only grants grenades to the demolisher who constructed it?

IMHO, that would only happen if the pylon was crippled just as badly as the ammo boxes. 

I had to stop playing a Quarian Male Engineer when my 200+ Thermal Clip packs went down to 30 due to wanting to kill things but having no grenades available since the non-grenade users had BioWare cripple the supply.  Two or three grenades every 15 seconds would have been HEAVEN instead of the constant running between boxes.  And when the run to another box cost me more grenades than I got, the character became a liability more than an asset.

I expect calls to nerf the Demolisher when it's used outside of Platinum.  Zero grenades generated in Bronze is a probability.  Once I get good I expect to play Silver most often, but I expect a smaller supply eventually.  That's how it goes when it's equipment doing the killing instead of skill: the equipment will be adjusted so the skillful can still brag...

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RomanDark wrote...

So I unlocked the N7 Demolisher a couple hours ago and I'm finding it to be a decently fun class however there is one thing that is really irritating while playing it. People are hoarding my grenades!!!!

I know the Pylon is there to help the group but seriously I am literally having to race other grenade users to get any. Other classes use grenades mostly as a supplement, the Demolisher however uses them quite often. I'm not spamming my grenades by any means, and I have a cap of 8 but I still find myself running out. This one match I had an Asari Vanguard camping my Pylon for LIFT GRENADES!!! really? I kept moving the pylon to undisclosed areas so I would have grenades when I needed them but she kept finding them and camping them, I think she was trolling me. lol

In a nut shell, unless you are a demolisher, go to an ammo box if you need a grenade or two, otherwise leave the pylon for the class that focuses on grenades.

That is all.

Congratulations. Worst psa ever. Will you next support-role psa be about this? - 'How to help a blind old lady cross the street during rush hour'. You hold her hand for a second, then let go and let her solo the busy intersection.....all while humming the theme song from Frogger.

Modifié par Offender_Mullet, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:46 .


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A big point of some of the new classes is to emphasize team (or at least I think so). The pylon needs to be updated to supply each player independently I suppose, then it would be a truly team item. Many of the maps are terrible, and you can't even get 1 grenade after a full round with no use of the ammo box...on all or many of the ammo boxes. Consider it a compliment that someone thought you were sharing.

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Anyway the game should some kind of XP bonus to this class based on the usage of Pylon. Also when I throw a "Homing Grenade" my "Arc Grenade" amount drops also and vise versa. Is this a bug or this is intended?

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all the demolisher has is grenades , it's not an unreasonable request.

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Angel Beats wrote...

You must construct additional pylons.


HaHa! Yes, indeed. Good times.

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Pacifien wrote...

:whistle:

you're still alive!