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[inusannonn]

C9316 wrote...

This is the only good EDI

The above version of EDI in ME2 was ok but I think its too boring.

ME3's upgrade to EDI I think is great. But the ****** moose knuckle was unessesary.

Her voice over her lines the acting was awesome ~ the only part of EDI I didnt like was when she would cast her decoy right on top of me during combat.

Move alittle bit away from the decoy and she recasts the decoy right ontop of me again. She means well but the decoy spaming can get annoying.

But I like EDI's new look and I think the actress who voices her does a fantastic job. Tricia Helfer is such a beautiful woman and Im glad she is the actress for EDI.

Having went destroy in my main game play, I hope EDI is still alive and able to still take along as a squadmate in the DLC's.

Btw eabioware...........where is the sideshow replica of EDI? you are creating Thane and Shep but how about EDI.

[MegaSovereign]

She gets flak for the relationship she *CAN* have with Joker.

Emphasis on CAN. I hope all these haters realize that Joker and EDI hooking up only happens if YOU encourage it, right?

Nevermind....

[Ryzaki]

...I was meh on her in ME2.

Can't stand her in ME3. Sexbot body and the complete ruination of Joker's body into something that utterly disgusts me pretty much hit all of my do not want buttons.

[txgoldrush]

No....

EDI may actually be the best character in Mass Effect 3.

Why?

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And really, screw the ME2 squad and those who whine about it. They aren't squaddies because they are simply not important to the plot or a core character.

Get over it

[DirtySHISN0]

We think EDI is great.

Also we don't understand why it is suddenly objectification for EDI to get a body that matches the rest of the female crew.

Something about looks being designed. Sup, Miranda.

[wizardryforever]

Siansonea II wrote...

EDI went from a cool AI character in ME2, a character that was a unique addition to the roster, to just another squadmate/oversexualized female. She devolves into a lovesick bimbo mooning over a boy. You don't hear Joker asking Shepard how to please EDI, she does all the work in trying to make her man commit, like some pre-feminist Donna Reed caricature. And her role in Synthesis doesn't help. BioWare's idea of paradise is physically inferior men getting in on with sex dolls instead of real women. If that isn't blatant wish fulfillment/subconscious insecurities on display, I don't know what is. Who needs a real woman when you can have a robot to fulfill your every whim? EDI is the ultimate Stepford Wife.

Wow, really?  I mean, really?

For one, her body was designed as an infiltration unit.  That's why it's hyper-sexualized.  And it does actually make sense.  People are more inclined to trust you or believe you if you're attractive, regardless of your or their gender.  But it is especially effective if you are the preferred gender of your target, and since most Alliance marines are still males, and most males are straight, it makes perfect sense to send Eva in as a hot female.

As for her behavior, that was present in ME2, especially after Joker unshackles her.  You can even comment on how comfortable they're becoming with each other.  And just so you know, EDI hardly "does all the work."  Joker pretty much asks your opinion on pursuing a relationship with EDI.  The only difference is that he asks more of a "should I" question, whereas EDI asks "how do I?"  The relationship is mutual, and since EDI doesn't understand enough about how relationships work, her questions make perfect sense given her character.  To her, Joker is a person, but she is designed to solve problems, and she approaches Joker as a problem to be solved.  This isn't really her conspiring to "get her man" as you so acidly put it.

Furthermore, I don't know where you got that idea of synthesis.  Not only is it not supported by anything said or shown in-game, but it's completely absurd.  What makes you think that synthesis is designed for men?  Are there no such things as "male" AIs, insofar as AIs have a gender?  Wouldn't that make synthesis equal opportunity then?  This whole line of thought is sexist in the extreme anyway.

[RadicalDisconnect]

Ryzaki wrote...

...I was meh on her in ME2.

Can't stand her in ME3. Sexbot body and the complete ruination of Joker's body into something that utterly disgusts me pretty much hit all of my do not want buttons.

What's amusing is that despite how much you hate her, you agree with her views on many things. 

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:41 .

[BDelacroix]

I didn't have much heartburn over her, she wasn't very good as a squadmate, and the pinochio story is done over and over. Funny, since it seems they didn't want to do cliche stuff in this game.

[Ryzaki]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

...I was meh on her in ME2.

Can't stand her in ME3. Sexbot body and the complete ruination of Joker's body into something that utterly disgusts me pretty much hit all of my do not want buttons.

What's amusing is that despite how much you hate her, you agree with her views on many things. 

I know!.

Alas if only she wasn't in a sexbot body and had Joker becoming a disgusting pathetic creep via proxmity! We'd be best pals!

[Genetic Destiny]

I only disliked EDI at the beginning of ME2. I wanted her dismantled, but by the end of the game I had no problem with her. I had no problem with her in ME3; I answered her questions truthfully (Q: "What is the purpose of synthetics?" A: "The job it was designed for.") and she developed well.

[RadicalDisconnect]

Genetic Destiny wrote...

I only disliked EDI at the beginning of ME2. I wanted her dismantled, but by the end of the game I had no problem with her. I had no problem with her in ME3; I answered her questions truthfully (Q: "What is the purpose of synthetics?" A: "The job it was designed for.") and she developed well.

Although interestingly enough, even if you tell her not to change her core programming after she got her body, she still does so near the end of the game.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 21 juillet 2012 - 02:15 .

[Obvakhi]

Ryzaki wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

...I was meh on her in ME2.

Can't stand her in ME3. Sexbot body and the complete ruination of Joker's body into something that utterly disgusts me pretty much hit all of my do not want buttons.

What's amusing is that despite how much you hate her, you agree with her views on many things. 

I know!.

Alas if only she wasn't in a sexbot body and had Joker becoming a disgusting pathetic creep via proxmity! We'd be best pals!

You're just mad because EDI doesn't look like this:

Modifié par Obvakhi, 21 juillet 2012 - 02:18 .

[txgoldrush]

EDI >>>>> HK47

At least she gets character development by Bioware.....

[D24O]

I do enjoy her development arc, really made me think.

[Rotgutso]

JakeMacDon wrote...

EDI was designed to do one thing:  give Joker's girlfriend boobs and booty - and by that I mean the Normandy.  First they gave the ship a brain.  Then they gave the ship a port Joker could interface in a way that didn't burn anything off.

Then the hypersmart AI turns into "Tell me how to loooove, Shepard, your Mojo is the Mightiest."

"Uh... tell each other jokes...?"

People hate on Jack because she gets "redeemed" through Shep's man-dangler, but EDI is a "better" character because she's made a Real Girl by Joker's glass tubing?

Dafuq?  Uh.... no.

I've said it elsewhere:  it is an unremittingly stupid sci-fi cliche that all the robot has to do is learn to love and laugh and suddenly - magically, unscientificallimetaphysicalkaldociously, a "soul" drops from the Guff and they be made all real and brand new people.  

The idea that "souls" are so readily available - don't forget that if EDI and Legion have them, the Reapers certainly do - kinda devalues the "souls" we supposedly have, and makes us no different, so the Synth/Control end whinefest is without merit, and the Refusal end makes those choosers look even more like le supreme bag 'ledouche.

The notion of "souls" implies the idea of an "afterlife" and a "god" or "gods".  The Reapers negate the idea of just godlings - because their work is murder on a vast scale over millions of years - no intervention until now?  What was Gawd and his ilk waiting for - robots to get smart enough to have souls so s/he/it can give them rights and decide that death in the uncountable trillions was all worth it because said soulful 'bots are become bangable?  Or was it that Gawd just promised no more floods, and tried the Reapers for past and future sh!ts and giggly genocide?

The idea is beyond stupid.

We treat actual living creatures as disposable, and don't blink when we argue that some chassis with ski-slope tatas is suddenly worthy of all this consideration because it can emulate intelligence and put on a show?  Don't buy it, sorry, and I'm past tired of this in every damn sci-fi anything. 

(I'm also sick of giant spiders and wolves in every "open world" RPG. FFS! Giant mantids or centipedes would be a lovely change, no?  Sheesh.)

Personally, that's why I'm no fan of EDI.  She could have easily been left on the ship and a ME2 squadmate used in that space for mission-specific gameplay.  They sent Liara back to the ship so Garrus could join us, they could just as easily have done that on Grissom or Tuchanka or Sur'kesh.  I wouldn't have complained at all.  

"James/Ashley/Javik!  Coordinate anti-Cerberus efforts here!  Wrex/Kirrahe!  You're on!"  Wouldn't have bothered me at all.

Mobile Tittie-bot 5000 was completely unnecessary.  The "romance" could have been played out every time you visited Joker and gave you a reason to actually bother. It'd be a "spiritual" thing. They were doing fine before she got legs.  

Some of us are no longer 15 and have grown past eye-candy over actual content.

I agree with you.

[Ryzaki]

Obvakhi wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

...I was meh on her in ME2.

Can't stand her in ME3. Sexbot body and the complete ruination of Joker's body into something that utterly disgusts me pretty much hit all of my do not want buttons.

What's amusing is that despite how much you hate her, you agree with her views on many things. 

I know!.

Alas if only she wasn't in a sexbot body and had Joker becoming a disgusting pathetic creep via proxmity! We'd be best pals!

You're just mad because EDI doesn't look like this:

LMFAO

This is glorious. If EDI looked like that the lulz the LULZ

[JBONE29]

The only character I actually didn't like in ME3 was Diana Allers. Here's why I like EDI.

1. She has some of the funniest lines in the game.
2. She has a non-Shepard-centered romance.
3. She is one of the most useful characters to bring along on missions (Liara, EDI, and Vega are the top three).

[krasnoarmeets]

Ryzaki wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

...I was meh on her in ME2.

Can't stand her in ME3. Sexbot body and the complete ruination of Joker's body into something that utterly disgusts me pretty much hit all of my do not want buttons.

What's amusing is that despite how much you hate her, you agree with her views on many things. 

I know!.

Alas if only she wasn't in a sexbot body and had Joker becoming a disgusting pathetic creep via proxmity! We'd be best pals!

You're just mad because EDI doesn't look like this:

LMFAO

This is glorious. If EDI looked like that the lulz the LULZ

Especially if she still had the same feminine voice

JBONE29 wrote...

3. She is one of the most useful characters to bring along on missions (Liara, EDI, and Vega are the top three).

Really? They keep lying down all the time. (Except for James)

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 21 juillet 2012 - 04:03 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

I liked her, one of the reasons I dislike the endings because I can't kill the Reapers without killing her.

[Voiceacted a Husk]

She's despised?

I get why some people might frown at botEDI compared to ballEDI (I personally prefer her ME2 form -- why would she go from being a ship to being a person? For tropes?), but I don't understand the dislike other than for broader AI reasons.

[Sundance31us]

In this house we like EDI...otherwise we wouldn't have named the home servers after her.

[Seracen]

No hate for EDI on my end, but her whole development in ME3 was extremely cliched, so that may have been why people had such disdain for her.

Then again, as much as I love the character AND the voice actress, Tricia Helfer seems to be getting typecast, and those of us who are aware pretty much called that entire arc of the story before it even left the ground.

Heck, even before I played the game, considering the leaks and the art book.

[FFHAuthor]

Despised her? No.

Unenthusiastic about her in the position of a squadmate, yes.

She had a great story, and it did explore interesting issues, but making her a squadmate wasn't necessary to conveying that story. Most of her relevant points and statements come across whether you have her on your squad or not (funny thing, even when she's in my squad, she still comes across as a radio voice when she says something that only she could say about the mission, somebody skimped on audio).

She didn't need to be a squadmate, that's about it. Vega was the opposite of this, decent and useful (and entertaining) squadmate, but not exactly a great out of mission story.