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[clennon8]

That isn't irony. Unless he was lying about getting teary eyed.

[AlienWolf728]

SRobson wrote...

Dusen wrote...

SRobson wrote...

Personally, I thought the ending of Dark Knight Rises was terrible. He should have died =/

Well, technically, Bruce Wayne did die. He now lives under another alias in Italy.

I mean DIE die. Actually die. I'm one of those people who is quite fond of endings where the 'hero' dies.

*rolls eyes*

[dorktainian]

why should you have to die to be a hero?

[Ticonderoga117]

dorktainian wrote...

why should you have to die to be a hero?

Because it they live.... I don't know.
I can understand sometimes a hero has gotta go out in an epic bang.
Some people just gotta up the death count in all media I guess.

[d-boy15]

in nolan-verse if batman still alive (in gotham eye), he still a vigilante, only a person
but if he die, batman become a legend to inspired peoples.

for shepard in ME3, I don't know... may be writers want ending to feel dramatic.

what funny is in TDKR, they had a good reason to kill batman/bruce but they choose
to kept him alive.

Modifié par d-boy15, 22 juillet 2012 - 09:53 .

[Prosarian]

d-boy15 wrote...

in nolan-verse if batman still alive (in gotham eye), he still a vigilante, only a person
but if he die, batman become a legend to inspired peoples.

for shepard in ME3, I don't know... may be writers want ending to feel dramatic.

Very true, in TDKR Batman's death serves a purpose. In ME3 Shepard's death is done in order to make him seem more heroic.

[Myrmedus]

SRobson wrote...

Personally, I thought the ending of Dark Knight Rises was terrible. He should have died =/

I would normally agree but I think they did a good job of making you genuinely believe he had died at first...that means you went through the same emotions nonetheless - I thought it was the best of both worlds.

And the twist - well, you know what definitely helped? When Marion Cotillard was cast as a new female character lots of fans thought she might be Talia, especially with Liam Neeson in the cast, but The Nolans actually came out and categorically said that she wasn't and Talia wasn't in the movie - that takes some balls to tell a bald-faced lie in order to protect plot twists!

[Myrmedus]

AlienWolf728 wrote...

SRobson wrote...

Dusen wrote...

SRobson wrote...

Personally, I thought the ending of Dark Knight Rises was terrible. He should have died =/

Well, technically, Bruce Wayne did die. He now lives under another alias in Italy.

I mean DIE die. Actually die. I'm one of those people who is quite fond of endings where the 'hero' dies.

*rolls eyes*

Dark is deep, AMIRITE?

[Myrmedus]

Fauxnormal wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

And ideal of /what/, how to make the world's most boring hero?

I'm Batman! My acting is always horrible, no matter who plays me! My character is shallow and unentertaining, but my parents are dead, which must mean I'm interesting! I'm invulnerable because the plot says so! I spend most of my time brooding about how horrible life is in my big mansion with my butler! I have no personality whatsoever!

Please.

Give me Iron Man any day.

Oh look a Marvel fanboy.

Girl. ^-^

And no. Just a fan of interesting heros.

Iron Man? Really?

Oh hi, I'm Iron Man, I'm so in love with myself, I'm so brilliant and awesome and sexy, everyone behold my awesomeness. Arrogant? I'm not arrogant, how dare you! I'm too awesome to be an arrogant ******!

One of my least liked characters. Half the time I'm actually rooting for the villain.

[Myrmedus]

Virginian wrote...

I was very dissapointed in Nolan's Batman.

Batman quits not once but twice. A true Batman doesn't quit because he is wanted for murder or to get laid.

I don't support character assassination and Nolan assassinated Batman and turned him into some pathetic fool.

If Bioware did this Shepard would have set down in front of Starchild and just said go ahead glowboy I don't care anymore.

No offence, but that's the comic Batman which would not have translated very well to the direction taken in Nolan's movies - it also makes Batman a bit more one-dimensional because he's more like a machine than a person.

I get what you're saying but I think he had plenty of cahones in Nolan's trilogy while still being human.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:00 .

[Drake-Shepard]

Prosarian wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

in nolan-verse if batman still alive (in gotham eye), he still a vigilante, only a person
but if he die, batman become a legend to inspired peoples.

for shepard in ME3, I don't know... may be writers want ending to feel dramatic.

Very true, in TDKR Batman's death serves a purpose. In ME3 Shepard's death is done in order to make him seem more heroic.

Also helps if the 'death'/sacrifice makes sense.
''A time bomb (introduced over an hour ago or (5months in movie time) is going to kill everyone..only time to fly it out'' ....the sacrifice also links to finally becoming the symbol he wanted to be in batman begins.

compared to

ME3's ''make a choice based on some brand new info, character and device  introduced a minute ago'' . what?... are you lieing about these choices? Do i actually die? how? ok. dieing is artistic. 

Modifié par Drake-Shepard, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:04 .

[Dusen]

Myrmedus wrote...

Virginian wrote...

I was very dissapointed in Nolan's Batman.

Batman quits not once but twice. A true Batman doesn't quit because he is wanted for murder or to get laid.

I don't support character assassination and Nolan assassinated Batman and turned him into some pathetic fool.

If Bioware did this Shepard would have set down in front of Starchild and just said go ahead glowboy I don't care anymore.

No offence, but that's the comic Batman which would not have translated very well to the direction taken in Nolan's movies - it also makes Batman a bit more one-dimensional because he's more like a machine than a person.

I get what you're saying but I think he had plenty of cahones in Nolan's trilogy while still being human.

Not to mention it made sense in the Nolan-verse. Batman quits after the second movie because the city is finally safe thanks to the Dent law. He comes back as soon as it's endangered by Bane. He doesn't quit again until the end of the movie when, once again, the city is safe and doesn't need him anymore. In fact, he does more by "dying" in that it serves to give inspiration to others, and of course he also finds a worthy successor in Blake/Robin. This Batman isn't as dedicated to stopping crime as much so as he is dedicated to protecting the city itself, which he has done time and time again in the films.

[TookYoCookies]

yea i dunno about the dark knight rises, havent seen it yet... All i know is you dont end your story with a holographic child. It shouldnt be that f*cking hard, you dont your story with a holographic child. YOU JUST DONT.

[SNAKEATEN]

Alright, I get it, Dark Knight is awesome.

Can we stop comparing apples to oranges now?

[BatmanPWNS]

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Alright, I get it, Dark Knight is awesome.

Can we stop comparing apples to oranges now?

Alright, let's compare Arkham City to ME3 ending instead!

Joker death made me actually cry, Shepards death pissed me off.

[Arisugawa]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

SNAKEATEN wrote...

Alright, I get it, Dark Knight is awesome.

Can we stop comparing apples to oranges now?

Alright, let's compare Arkham City to ME3 ending instead!

Joker death made me actually cry, Shepards death pissed me off.

Mordin's death made me cry, Bruce Wayne's whatever that was made me groan.

[dirty console peasant]

Myrmedus wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

And ideal of /what/, how to make the world's most boring hero?

I'm Batman! My acting is always horrible, no matter who plays me! My character is shallow and unentertaining, but my parents are dead, which must mean I'm interesting! I'm invulnerable because the plot says so! I spend most of my time brooding about how horrible life is in my big mansion with my butler! I have no personality whatsoever!

Please.

Give me Iron Man any day.

Oh look a Marvel fanboy.

Girl. ^-^

And no. Just a fan of interesting heros.

Iron Man? Really?

Oh hi, I'm Iron Man, I'm so in love with myself, I'm so brilliant and awesome and sexy, everyone behold my awesomeness. Arrogant? I'm not arrogant, how dare you! I'm too awesome to be an arrogant ******!

One of my least liked characters. Half the time I'm actually rooting for the villain.

come on people, I did not post this thread so that fanboys/girls could have a pissing fight over their favorite comic book characters.  I posted this thread to open up discussion on what bioware did wrong, and what they could do better.

[N7L4D]

The avengers was better

[TMA LIVE]

This might not be a surprise, but I didn't like the ending to the movie. I thought the Batman escaping an explosion that can destroy a city, seconds before said explosion was bull****. I don't care if he jumped in the water seconds before it blew.

I think it should've ended with Batman beating Bane, but being put in a wheelchair because of it. As punishment for the chaos he unleashed for all those years, instead of giving police better equipment to fighting crime.

[Udalango]

Anyone else notice that TDKR was way way less dark than TDK. Thats how a Trilogy should work. It shouldnt just continuously get darker.

[dirty console peasant]

N7L4D wrote...

The avengers was better

Overall I would kind of agree with you, but te style of TDKRs ending would better fit ME3 than ME3s ending, and the Avengers ending would not.

[dirty console peasant]

Udalango wrote...

Anyone else notice that TDKR was way way less dark than TDK. Thats how a Trilogy should work. It shouldnt just continuously get darker.

yes, dark =! art.  The sooner Bioware learns that, the better.

[Iakus]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

why should you have to die to be a hero?

Because it they live.... I don't know.
I can understand sometimes a hero has gotta go out in an epic bang.
Some people just gotta up the death count in all media I guess.

Some people like heroes to gop out in a blaze of glory

But others want them to retire satisfied that the job is done.

TDKR demonstrates how popular the later can be with an audience

ME3 demonstrates how unhappy people can be when a game that suppoedly offers choice fails to provide that option.

[Dean_the_Young]

iakus wrote...

ME3 demonstrates how unhappy people can be when a game that suppoedly offers choice fails to provide that option.

Correction: ME3 demonstrated that offering choices isn't enough if those choices aren't accepted.

There are choices in your ending. ME3 did not fail to provide that.

[clennon8]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

iakus wrote...

ME3 demonstrates how unhappy people can be when a game that suppoedly offers choice fails to provide that option.

Correction: ME3 demonstrated that offering choices isn't enough if those choices aren't accepted.

There are choices in your ending. ME3 did not fail to provide that.

Technically correct.  ME3 gave us our choice of war crimes to commit before dying.