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[Meatiershower]

I would like to play my character the way I want, please don't play yours the way you want.

[cronshaw]

Are we going to get this thread every time a new biotic class comes out? If you are going to play random matches with a biotic class you are just going to have to deal with it. Posting here isn't going to solve your problem.

[Dried Donkey]

Meatiershower wrote...

I would like to play my character the way I want, please don't play yours the way you want.

words of wisdom here!

[Perlicka]

BYC wrote...
Either they don't care, they don't know, or they are just not paying attention.

For that its good to have a mic and just tell ppl, im not familiar with new classes yet, wasn't lucky with random store (and im not alone)
yes, i can read about anything here, so i have some ideas what to do and what not to do, but not all ppl are reading bsn
you don't need to speak whole game...
I hate to speak in english , so i do that only when its really important
and don't tell me that mic is expensive thing in other country

[Strict31]

 This is a complaint I just don't get.

I tend to favor Biotic classes more than any other. And Adepts in particular.

I used to fret about Tech characters spamming Overload, but nowadays, if I set off your Tech Burst, I don't give a f*ck. I love racking up BEs, and I've gotten very good at doing so. So much so that I can play with a team full of Tech characters and still get in enough BEs to make me wanna embrace eternity.

And double-Throw can still net you a BE.

The N7 Fury is a BE machine. She's simply got too many ways to set up and detonate her own BEs for me to worry about some Tech character spamming Overload. And with AF, I can reliably roam around on my own to self-detonate BEs.

Now, if they're specifically trolling you, that's a different matter. But the point is, there are ways to make it still work in the team's favor or your own favor when you got someone Overloading your targets. There is absolutely no reason why Techs and Biotics cannot function as a solid team.

[OscuraShiva]

I have this problem so many times.... Even when playing with friends it looks like there is an elettric rage against me in the air.
I think that Overload/Energy Drain can still help an adept. Double throw and after a tech burst you do your biotic explosion.
The main point is that there is some crazy people around that doesn't cooperate well and just keep spamming it.
Tech bursts surely works better with shields than biotic explosions, no doubt. But that's all. Shields/barriers are gone? Then step back and let me do my job.
And after this.... (and this is really a hit to the heart everytime i see it)... What's the point of killing an enemy ready to be detonated?
5 enemies in front of the team and the first to go down is the blue one?!? I usually turn to look the guy that throwed in the junk my biotic explosion and ask myself ,"Are we sure you're not an enemy spy?"

To all the people having this problem (usually on random games) i can say just one thing. Take it easy and wait for the big enemies before to do biotic explosions, but if you see more than one ally with elettric things then give up and change room or change character because even when concentrating on the big ones you'll have a hard time doing a single biotic explosion.

[soultaker65]

Strict31 wrote...

 This is a complaint I just don't get.

I tend to favor Biotic classes more than any other. And Adepts in particular.

I used to fret about Tech characters spamming Overload, but nowadays, if I set off your Tech Burst, I don't give a f*ck. I love racking up BEs, and I've gotten very good at doing so. So much so that I can play with a team full of Tech characters and still get in enough BEs to make me wanna embrace eternity.

And double-Throw can still net you a BE.

The N7 Fury is a BE machine. She's simply got too many ways to set up and detonate her own BEs for me to worry about some Tech character spamming Overload. And with AF, I can reliably roam around on my own to self-detonate BEs.

Now, if they're specifically trolling you, that's a different matter. But the point is, there are ways to make it still work in the team's favor or your own favor when you got someone Overloading your targets. There is absolutely no reason why Techs and Biotics cannot function as a solid team.

I'm not complaining about TBs those are fine.

it's just the last 10 times I've played with the Fury someone is always following me and spamming Overload/Energy Drain and it seemed like they were trolling me but now I see that just like with the AJ's bubble a lot of people don't know how AF works so I'll wait a few days before I try the Fury again.

Thank you again BSN for helping me with my problem.

Even if more then half of you didn't say anything helpful<_<

[Stabby Badger]

If you think that's bad, I got in a game with another fury that had clearly only spent like one point in throw and was immediately exploding every target I primed for what seemed like 2 points of damage before I got a chance to make an actually useful explosion on my own.

Eventually started just playing rambo on the other side of the map from him and the team since it seemed like the only option. Took all my self control to not just train a phantom up behind him.

[Count Dante]

As someone who has switched my main to Fury because I love her, I do not agree with the OP at all.

Work with your team, dont expect them to play just to facilitate you.

But specifically, Overload, I would argue, is the SINGLE best ability in the game. Not the most damage or most defensive, but overall the best power in the game. My two-man gold partner is a Geth engineer and we work awesome together.

So on behalf of THIS Fury player... If you have Overload, please do NOT hesitate to stagger all those mobs in front of me while I blow em up.

[Strict31]

soultaker65 wrote...

Strict31 wrote...

 This is a complaint I just don't get.

I tend to favor Biotic classes more than any other. And Adepts in particular.

I used to fret about Tech characters spamming Overload, but nowadays, if I set off your Tech Burst, I don't give a f*ck. I love racking up BEs, and I've gotten very good at doing so. So much so that I can play with a team full of Tech characters and still get in enough BEs to make me wanna embrace eternity.

And double-Throw can still net you a BE.

The N7 Fury is a BE machine. She's simply got too many ways to set up and detonate her own BEs for me to worry about some Tech character spamming Overload. And with AF, I can reliably roam around on my own to self-detonate BEs.

Now, if they're specifically trolling you, that's a different matter. But the point is, there are ways to make it still work in the team's favor or your own favor when you got someone Overloading your targets. There is absolutely no reason why Techs and Biotics cannot function as a solid team.

I'm not complaining about TBs those are fine.

it's just the last 10 times I've played with the Fury someone is always following me and spamming Overload/Energy Drain and it seemed like they were trolling me but now I see that just like with the AJ's bubble a lot of people don't know how AF works so I'll wait a few days before I try the Fury again.

Thank you again BSN for helping me with my problem.

Even if more then half of you didn't say anything helpful<_<

Man, it does suck when some fool is trolling you in the game. I';m kinda lucky in that regard, because I tend to play with friends. Most of the randoms I play with...it might seem to me initially like they're trolling, but usually, it turns out they're not doing it intentionally.

I used to get more upset about Infils or Snipers killing mobs I'd set up with Warp to detonate with Throw. But that's not so much a problem anymore. Still happens occasionally, but I chalk it up to "fog of war" or reflex or whatever.

But active trolling sucks ballsacks.

[CitizenThom]

Deek2099 wrote...

NOME wrote...

This is a coop game after all. Why can't you change to a class that can do tech burst?

I don't understand why fury should be prioritized over tech users.

Tech burst can be very powerful as well.

There are all biotic teams out there and you should join them for best group synergy.

Irs kinda a common courtesy that if your a tech don't hang around a biotic he should have to change both can exist in a game it's one thing if it's a big enemy and the whole team is working on it but to follow a biotic with a tech is just jerky. I'm happy when techs follow me cause I play as a shadow we can tech burst all day but I tend to go the opposite way of biotics that are on my team. just Cause them BE-ing the crap out of everything makes the game go smoother and quicker 

Eh? Really?

So is it jerky if a tech lets you die by not giving you support? Is it even more jerky to give you a raise?

I thought multiplayer was a co-op where the goal was to kill bad guys... didn't realise that there was more to it than dropping bad guys as quickly as possible.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 20 juillet 2012 - 05:13 .

[Rasputin17]

It worked for me and a Human Engineer on gold last night and it was just the two of us.

[NucularPikinic]

Everyone stop using your best powers while I BE everything.

[CitizenThom]

NucularPikinic wrote...

Everyone stop using your best powers while I BE everything.

OMG! Stop killing bad guys! That was my bad guy to kill !!!!111!!!!

[A4RiZ0812]

No offense but I can't stand people like OP and I would deliberately spam overload just to annoy them.
Just like to mention sometimes letting everyone fire/spam powers at the same time especially at one target is quicker than tech bursts. 

If you want to play like that, mention it in the lobby first otherwise don't be surprised when no one wants to be ordered about. You know our builds in the lobby so either leave, prepare get booted out or suffer an annoying match, got no time for people like that.

[Jayleia]

I didn't know that about that mechanism in the Fury until I saw this thread, in the future, I'll try to be more mindful of that.

But when I do play Human/Geth/Salarian engineers, my primary role is as a shield ripper (and you'll usually find that character behind the console on White, fighting Geth...there is no honor in that, only credits).

[soultaker65]

@ NucularPikinic, CitizenThom, A4RiZ0812

Did you even read the whole thread before you posted? Because your posts sure make it seem like you didn't.

This have nothing to do with score or killing enemies, you do know that the Fury dies very easy if you keep taking the shield away from the enemies in front of her right?

And last time I checked to be a good teammate you shouldn't do things that make you teammate die right?

So you can't go kill all the other enemies on the map you just have to kill the one right in front of me?

Man you guys are jerks.

And just in case you need an example of what I mean

ie. Fury seeing a group of enemies with a Marauder in the group goes to take them out, using Annihilation Field's Drain ability she kills them all little to no damage.

or

Fury seeing a group of enemies with a Marauder in the group goes to take them out but then the Engineer on the team uses Overload/Energy Drain on the Marauder the Marauder has no shields to Drain so after the TB from the Throw that kills the Marauder the rest of the enemies kill the Fury and the Engineer all of this because the Engineer couldn't go kill something else.

On waves 1-6 that is annoying but survivable but on waves 7-11 where on boss can kill the whole team in the blink of an eye it's game ending. So yea I'm a jerk for wanting to get Full Extraction or at least all of the credits in a match.

Modifié par soultaker65, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:31 .

[Count Dante]

Perhaps using the strategy of rushing into the group because you see 1 - 2 with shields is not the best option for the team. If you knew you had Overload in the match, it seems to me to be a simple adjustment.

Overload is made to be spammed hard and often. And it should be. Perhaps you should think of it as I mentioned earlier... You dont need the shields to live, that chain overload will get you an additional stagger to give you that last couple seconds to get another throwbomb or two in.

Work WITH your team, not agaisnt them. I love to be sexy too with running in seeing a shield or two and wiping a group and portin around to the next. But Sexy < Winning.

[Amnesiotic]

soultaker65 wrote...

Before the Fury it was annoying but now that the Fury is here it's game ending.

I mean why would you follow around a Fury spamming Overload/Energy Drain it's not helping at all.

In fact by doing all that spamming you are making the game harder for no reason.

So I'm asking nicely please stop it ok.

I understand your frustration, but I have personally seem about 5 people playing fury on an all-tech team. Not saying you're one of them, but a lot of people seem to just want to show off their new characters despite the team and difficulty.

[Atheosis]

Every time a player complains about this I can't stop laughing. Either pick another class when you see tech classes in the lobby, or spam Throw and detonate the Tech Bursts they are setting up. Seriously, you are making yourself look foolish with this crap.

[Pee Jae]

In Bronze and Silver, I get it. But, in Gold matches (or Platinum) the only rule is "Kill it before it kills us." I try my best to be an unstoppable killing machine in high difficulties and so should you. How it dies doesn't matter as long as it dies.

In lower difficulties, let Krogans melee everything, let Infiltrators infiltrate (headshots), let Adepts BE, let Vanguards Charge/Nova spam, etc, etc. I get the frustration, but it's all part of the game.

[Atheosis]

Stabby Badger wrote...

If you think that's bad, I got in a game with another fury that had clearly only spent like one point in throw and was immediately exploding every target I primed for what seemed like 2 points of damage before I got a chance to make an actually useful explosion on my own.

Eventually started just playing rambo on the other side of the map from him and the team since it seemed like the only option. Took all my self control to not just train a phantom up behind him.

So they were detonating your Dark Channel's and that upset you? 

[x75dnaflames]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Double throw?

If they are spamming that hard to make you open a topic on it, then with you simply detonating their TBs with throw should do a plenty enough damage to clear the map with TBs alone.

^^^^

I don't know who is more ignorant, the people who complain instead of helping their team by detonating other peoples powers in stead of just their own, or the people who use their only offensive power against synthetics in an attempt to do some extra damage.... Hmmmmmm....

This "problem" is old, no need to complain about it AGAIN. Just learn to double throw. It takes litteraly like 2 seconds. 

[upinya slayin]

i'm gonna put aside the whole TB to BE argument. eveyrone has preference and they are both pretty equally powerful in terms of damage some prefer TB some prefer BE. its irrelevant. The point here is that the fury relies on BEs in order to survive. by running around spamming overload behind one to get points for TBs your causing your teammate to die. its not a matter of points or kills or what is better, its called being a good teammate. the fury is a upclose walking biotic bomb and for me i rely on the stagger of the BEs (TBs don't stagger) to but time for my power recharge so i can BE again or detone my AF to finish them off. if i walk into 5 people and you overload right before i throw then i throw you get a TB and do some damage but I die, if you don't you get no points but i wipe out 5 people at once.

So whats better
you get some assist points on damage but have a dead teammate and 5 alive enemies
you get 0 points but have 5 dead enemies and an alive teammate

thats the point the OP is making. i'd be pissed to. If I was an asari adept and you did it i wouldn't care cause throw throw = TB then BE and i'm far away and in cover so the extra time doesn't matter

[Kuato Livezz]

I joined a gold game a few days back with my human engineer only to realize that the rest of my squad were Asari.

Normally, I would play the way I normally played, but I felt compelled to lay off the overload. In all honestly, 3 adepts working with each other to setup combos will have much more success than 1 engineer screwing it all up.