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[Poison_Berrie]

upinya slayin wrote...

if your playing on silver you shoud understand the powers and mechanics at minimum. learn all the stuff on bronze. espicially not gold. i wouldn't care if it was silver honestly. but don't come into a gold match and ruin eveyrhting becuase you don't know the mechanics

the fury gets her barrier back from baries and shields. if overloadstrips teh shield you just cost the fury her barriers
AF primes BEs when active and staggers. if i'm in 4M of a group they are primed to be exploded, you overload and i get no explsion and most likely die in the process

A. Not everyone has the Fury and would not neccesarely know what the power can do.

B. Drain is an Rank 6 Evolution option. People can neither see to which rank and how you specced Annihilation Field. How are they supposed to know if you recharge barriers that way or if you're trying to do as much damage before you detonate?

[Kick In The Door]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

if your playing on silver you shoud understand the powers and mechanics at minimum. learn all the stuff on bronze. espicially not gold. i wouldn't care if it was silver honestly. but don't come into a gold match and ruin eveyrhting becuase you don't know the mechanics

the fury gets her barrier back from baries and shields. if overloadstrips teh shield you just cost the fury her barriers
AF primes BEs when active and staggers. if i'm in 4M of a group they are primed to be exploded, you overload and i get no explsion and most likely die in the process

A. Not everyone has the Fury and would not neccesarely know what the power can do.

B. Drain is an Rank 6 Evolution option. People can neither see to which rank and how you specced Annihilation Field. How are they supposed to know if you recharge barriers that way or if you're trying to do as much damage before you detonate?

So ignorance of class abilities is somehow some sort of excuse for this behavior?

That begs the question as to what the hell is such a player doing on Gold/Platinum?

Your second point is fair, though anyone with a brain is speccing for Drain. The oddball here and there might not. But it's safe to assume to that most if not all Furies you come across are specced for drain. 

[Strict31]

upinya slayin wrote...

i'm gonna put aside the whole TB to BE argument. eveyrone has preference and they are both pretty equally powerful in terms of damage some prefer TB some prefer BE. its irrelevant. The point here is that the fury relies on BEs in order to survive. by running around spamming overload behind one to get points for TBs your causing your teammate to die. its not a matter of points or kills or what is better, its called being a good teammate. the fury is a upclose walking biotic bomb and for me i rely on the stagger of the BEs (TBs don't stagger) to but time for my power recharge so i can BE again or detone my AF to finish them off. if i walk into 5 people and you overload right before i throw then i throw you get a TB and do some damage but I die, if you don't you get no points but i wipe out 5 people at once.

So whats better
you get some assist points on damage but have a dead teammate and 5 alive enemies
you get 0 points but have 5 dead enemies and an alive teammate

thats the point the OP is making. i'd be pissed to. If I was an asari adept and you did it i wouldn't care cause throw throw = TB then BE and i'm far away and in cover so the extra time doesn't matter

After I posted in this thread, I played for a while. Had a public game with my Fury on Vancouver and one of my squadmates happened to be a Tech character with Overload. At one point, it was just me and him left alive and we were on the move, covering and supporting each other. I noticed him throwing overload on a Marauder I'd just Dark Channeled, before i could hit him with Throw. 

I didn't suddenly die. We just moved on after the enemy was dead. It never once became a big deal.

Later in the match, I moved off away from the group and threw on Annihilation Field and killed some guys without anyone ever interrupting with Overload. There were more than enough enemies for me to find on my own to lather in Annihilation sauce without someone spewing Overload juice on my kills.

This is not a problem unless someone is purposely trolling the Fury, which itself is an entirely different problem.

[Prince Bubblegeth]

When there's a tech spammer in the squad, i make sure to throw Throw (lol) twice to trigger a tech burst then a BE.

[brian_breed]

Besides, Biotic Primer + Overload + Detonator + Detonator > Biotic Primer + Detonator. Just use an extra quick cd brah.

[yarpenthemad21]

I've played platinum with devastator + demolisher + fury and me as justicar. damage output was just insane, tech bursts from grenades, BEs from darkchannel + reave, bes from throw and anihilation field, biotic sphere, and BE from detonating with sphere. so many many ways to detonate biotic and tech that it was just constant boom boom boom.

Also fury + reave biotic makes wonders on phantoms, dark channel + reave and even phantom sphere doesn't help her.


general tips when biotic user playes with tech users. stop throwing after there is a be

still the most damaging biotic combo I've done was cerberus vanguard smash + my fury adept throw. detonation every <2s + massive damage from smash. fastest atlases kills I've ever seen.

[Wrath of Conor]

Oh man, I just got my first Killstreak from Annihilation Field > Throw

Felt good too a I had just joined a match in progress and that was my introduction to the kill feed

[devwild]

It is mindnumbing how many people reply to this thread just to be a smartarse without actually reading the reasoning behind it. That said, yes, the original post should have been more descriptive as to why. I don't have the Fury, so I had no clue, now I do, thanks.

Also, damn I hope I get one soon.

[Sailears]

I don't see it as much of a problem.

Drain (actually the duration is more important part) is for when shielded things get close to you on your own, or you want to sneak up on things on your own. If a teammate is overloading/energy draining shields while you are in close proximity, things should be going down fast enough for you to survive (and they have your back anyway); plus you can always detonate it or melee and flip away to recharge shields. More of a backup to keep you alive on your own.

If the team has more than one tech user say on platinum, might be better to just switch to another character that synergises better. On gold or below you can still get by.

[soultaker65]

devwild wrote...

It is mindnumbing how many people reply to this thread just to be a smartarse without actually reading the reasoning behind it. That said, yes, the original post should have been more descriptive as to why. I don't have the Fury, so I had no clue, now I do, thanks.

Also, damn I hope I get one soon.

I add more Info in the original post since a lot of people don't read the whole thread before posting.

[Stabby Badger]

Atheosis wrote...

Stabby Badger wrote...

If you think that's bad, I got in a game with another fury that had clearly only spent like one point in throw and was immediately exploding every target I primed for what seemed like 2 points of damage before I got a chance to make an actually useful explosion on my own.

Eventually started just playing rambo on the other side of the map from him and the team since it seemed like the only option. Took all my self control to not just train a phantom up behind him.

So they were detonating your Dark Channel's and that upset you? 

Try putting only one point in throw and see how much damage your BE's do.  BE damage is based on the rank of the powers being used... so yeah, I wasn't too thrilled about a guy exploding all my targets with what was obviously a 1-point throw when I have it maxed (with the detonate talent, no less) and could have been doing A LOT more damage detonating it on my own.

Don't know if people just don't read or flat out have no idea how the game works.  <_<

[Thoragoros]

soultaker65 wrote...

So I'm asking nicely please stop it ok.

No.

[soultaker65]

Thoragoros wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

So I'm asking nicely please stop it ok.

No.

A troll reply to a week old post is unnecessary.

[Thoragoros]

soultaker65 wrote...

Thoragoros wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

So I'm asking nicely please stop it ok.

No.

A troll reply to a week old post is unnecessary.

Okay, how about this.

Playing a Turian Sentinel specced for recharge rates with Structural Ergonomiacs equipped, he is most likely trying to set Tech Bursts of his own.  Do you realize, a Turian Sentinel can effectively triple his damage output by setting up his own Tech Bursts, provided he also has Disruptor Ammo equipped?

The Paladin, who has three tech powers, each with recharge reates of less than 3 seconds, can most likely set up Tech Bursts nearly as fast as your Asari, can also massively increase his damage output by tech bursting. 

Also, the Paladin needs to spam Energy Drain in order to recharge his shields, and teched properly takes a massive 40% damage reduction if Energy Drain is teched properly.  So really, the Paladin needs to spam Energy Drain to keep himselve alive, especially if playing the Geth, since every character recharges his shields and allows for his damage reduction.

So really, why should either of them not spam their powers?  Your saying they should reduce their damage output simply because you're having trouble setting up your own attacks?

Frankly you sound like you need to work on your game a little.

Modifié par Thoragoros, 26 juillet 2012 - 05:41 .

[Mgamerz]

Sorry if my character is just better than yours.

[SilentCO1]

Okay, I'll just spam my arc grenades then.

[sydsyrious]

Sorry OP....my SI/SE needs shields to survive too. Whose life is more important? Will the fury come to revive the poor SI/SE because he sacrificed himself for the Fury? I think not.

[soultaker65]

Thoragoros wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Thoragoros wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

So I'm asking nicely please stop it ok.

No.

A troll reply to a week old post is unnecessary.

Okay, how about this.

Playing a Turian Sentinel specced for recharge rates with Structural Ergonomiacs equipped, he is most likely trying to set Tech Bursts of his own.  Do you realize, a Turian Sentinel can effectively triple his damage output by setting up his own Tech Bursts, provided he also has Disruptor Ammo equipped?

The Paladin, who has three tech powers, each with recharge reates of less than 3 seconds, can most likely set up Tech Bursts nearly as fast as your Asari, can also massively increase his damage output by tech bursting. 

Also, the Paladin needs to spam Energy Drain in order to recharge his shields, and teched properly takes a massive 40% damage reduction if Energy Drain is teched properly.  So really, the Paladin needs to spam Energy Drain to keep himselve alive, especially if playing the Geth, since every character recharges his shields and allows for his damage reduction.

So really, why should either of them not spam their powers?  Your saying they should reduce their damage output simply because you're having trouble setting up your own attacks?

Frankly you sound like you need to work on your game a little.

1. Did you read the whole thread before you posted because if you did you would see that I already sovled my problem.

2. I'm not sure why someone would reply to a post a whole week old and think they were helping with a troll post.

3. Don't try to start a fight over something that already been sovled your just wasting your and my time.

[Thoragoros]

soultaker65 wrote...

Thoragoros wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

Thoragoros wrote...

soultaker65 wrote...

So I'm asking nicely please stop it ok.

No.

A troll reply to a week old post is unnecessary.

Okay, how about this.

Playing a Turian Sentinel specced for recharge rates with Structural Ergonomiacs equipped, he is most likely trying to set Tech Bursts of his own.  Do you realize, a Turian Sentinel can effectively triple his damage output by setting up his own Tech Bursts, provided he also has Disruptor Ammo equipped?

The Paladin, who has three tech powers, each with recharge reates of less than 3 seconds, can most likely set up Tech Bursts nearly as fast as your Asari, can also massively increase his damage output by tech bursting. 

Also, the Paladin needs to spam Energy Drain in order to recharge his shields, and teched properly takes a massive 40% damage reduction if Energy Drain is teched properly.  So really, the Paladin needs to spam Energy Drain to keep himselve alive, especially if playing the Geth, since every character recharges his shields and allows for his damage reduction.

So really, why should either of them not spam their powers?  Your saying they should reduce their damage output simply because you're having trouble setting up your own attacks?

Frankly you sound like you need to work on your game a little.

1. Did you read the whole thread before you posted because if you did you would see that I already sovled my problem.

2. I'm not sure why someone would reply to a post a whole week old and think they were helping with a troll post.

3. Don't try to start a fight over something that already been sovled your just wasting your and my time.

Good lord you're anti-social. 

And in case you didn't notice, your 'Week old thread' appeard on page 1.  

[ucdcsteve]

Look, I played multiplayer before I decided to join the forums, so I was completely ignorant of BE and TBs. Whenever I saw a shield I would say, "Oh look, I have something for that," and would use overload or energy drain and think I was doing something good for the team. No shields means easier to kill right?

It wasn't until I started coming here and reading the strategies and learning about TB and BE that I realized what I was doing. All I'm saying is, maybe the guy doesn't know any better. Just enlighten him and I'm sure he'll want to coop for the good of the team.


......unless he's just being a giant douche and wants to mess with you. But I don't see anyone doing that because then he loses out on creds too.


Edit: Nevermind. Just saw that you already solved the issue. Enjoy your game!   

Modifié par ucdcsteve, 26 juillet 2012 - 06:09 .

[SapientesGladio]

+1

But in this cause I would just switch to the Paladin to assist combos

Yes I'm the guy that detonates everything you set up, giving you all the kills...it's great for your ego and mine.

[DeathOsiris]

With overload the person could be using it for the stagger effect so you get shot less while getting into AF range. Also with the stun from overload and then the stun from AF, you should be able to use throw twice before you take serious damage(Depending on how close you are, you might not take any damage.).

[PluralAces]

just use throw twice...stop complaining

[NewStrings]

To all those who play N7 Fury when I'm spamming Overload/Energy Drain... stop. Just stop. Sorry, I like to be a team player but I'm not going to stop using my main power because you specced yourself into a vulnerable position.