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[Jackums]

Seen a lot of posts and topics about this, so I figured I'd make a thread we can (hopefully) keep alive until we get some sort of buff for this class. Post your buff ideas, anything you think should be changed, etc.

Modifié par JackumsD, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:08 .

[Carnagedude504]

There isn't anything besides the Phase Disruptor to buff IMO, everything on the Slayer is severely OP except that ability.

[GiroX-]

I dont have the class yet, but the problem seems like Phase Disruptor and Charge are contradicting to each other.

[BoomDynamite]

I'll post what I did in my Earh DLC Balance Thread (http://social.biowar.../index/13224227).

BoomDynamite wrote...

*snip*

PHASE DISRUPTOR - [Added in Edit 7]
Reduce base barrier consumption from 50% to 35%
Increase base damage from 400 to 500

*snip*

BIOTIC SLASH - [Added in Edit 8]
Reduce casting animation by 50% 25% (May have to be issued in a patch; changed in Edit 10)
Add 50% DR during casting animation (Would need a patch; added in Edit 10)

*snip*

N7 SLAYER -
Increase base shields to 600
Increase base health to 600
Increase base Light melee from 250 to 500

Modifié par BoomDynamite, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:23 .

[-Event-Horizon-]

While i believe that their base melee does need to be buffed a bit, it fails to shine mostly because of the vanguard glitch.

Modifié par -Event-Horizon-, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:17 .

[Jackums]

Carnagedude504 wrote...

There isn't anything besides the Phase Disruptor to buff IMO, everything on the Slayer is severely OP except that ability.

I think think that Biotic Slash could be buffed. Add some sort of DOT effect or increase its base damage. Some people have suggested a shield buff. I do well with this class as it is, but the majority of people I see posting about it on here consider it poorly built, weak, under-powered, etc.

I can agree its strengths are somewhat less apparent than other vanguards'.

[Stardusk]

Melee damage should be increased by at least 50%.

[SWFanatic]

I tried a full melee build with appropriate gear and consumables. I was a little disappointed.
I went from that back to krogan vanguard.
I don't really see a reason for the slayer when I have a krogan vanguard.

Don't get me wrong, teleporting and slashing people to bits is lots of fun and all, but yeah it needs something. Its strange to be getting hit in mid-teleport too. Most of the times I get in trouble is going to heavy melee one person and getting stunned by something else and then dying super quick.

With a name like slayer...it needs sharper teeth.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

Make power animations faster.
Biotic slash to be like nova, which requires no cooldown, but uses up barriers
Phaser to do more damage. For something that uses barriers to inflict damage, it's pretty lackluster.
Instead of fitness, change it to a sword mastery tree.

[BoomDynamite]

Stardusk wrote...

Melee damage should be increased by at least 50%.

Then Light would be 375 instead of 250 and Heavy would be 1,050 base. I think just the Light needs a buff.

[Aethyl]

I am only wondering why he didn't got the Sword Mastery, like the Shadow. After all, they are supposed to be the two katana users here, so it would makes sense to have something similar, even if more Biotic than Tech based.

Other than that, I don't have any problem with his actual balance, but I guess I wouldn't mind a buff.

Modifié par Aethyl, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:21 .

[Deathshroud09]

OFFICIAL THREAD OF OFFICIAL OFFICIALNESS!!!!1!!1!!!!11!!

All Jokes aside JackumsD, i do agree with you in that the slayer needs a bit of a buff, namely a bit of a damage buff to phase disruptor, and if possible in a patch (not likely), letting it actually have the ability to set off Biotic Explosions.

[RequiemPrime]

For a sec I read this as Buffy the Slayer........

[Jackums]

Increase base health and/or shields.
Increase base damage of Biotic Slash and/or add some sort of perk (armor penetration, DOT effect, etc).
Decrease percentage of shields that Phase Disruptor consumes.

[Stardusk]

Aethyl wrote...

I am only wondering why he didn't got the Sword Mastery, like the Shadow. After all, they are supposed to be the two katana users here, so it would makes sense to have something similar, even if more Biotic than Tech based.

Other than that, I don't have any problem with his actual balance, but I guess I wouldn't mind a buff.

My proposal would be in the N7 Slayer passive, grant alongside weapon damage bonuses, melee damage bonuses, maxing out at 30% or something. He has a sword, he should be able to use it effectively.

[UserUnknown85]

First, what makes this thread any more official than anyon else's?

Second, i dunno about buffing it. I have seen Aethyl use it to great effectiveness (on gold), though it seems a bit harder to use than most classes...

Also, doesn't Slayer/Fury dodges and melees grant you some invincibility frames?

It is weird that he didn't get the sword mastery skill tree...

[StrawHatMoose]

I'd say reduce the animation of biotic slash and add a 40-50% DR during the the animation.
Add either a dot OR armour/barrier penetration upgrade.
For phase disruptor, increases damage and the barriers used.

[Aethyl]

UserUnknown85 wrote...

First, what makes this thread any more official than anyon else's?

Second, i dunno about buffing it. I have seen Aethyl use it to great effectiveness (on gold), though it seems a bit harder to use than most classes...

Also, doesn't Slayer/Fury dodges and melees grant you some invincibility frames?

It is weird that he didn't get the sword mastery skill tree...

First, it has OFFICIAL in its name, so it should be.

Joke aside, indeed, the dodge and melee moves grant you considerable invincibility frame. During the whole dodge / melee animation where you "vanish" you are actually invincible. It's especially visible with the light melee, which can allow you to avoid most of the enemy gunfire, even in the middle of an enemy group.
However, since there is a little "delay" once you reappear, you can easily get overwhelmed if you don't use your melee and dodge wisely, which actually balances the animation.
Also, each dodge and heavy melee consumes a little amount of Barrier and stop its regeneration, but not the light melee.

And yeah, I still don't get why the other sword based class didn't get the specific mastery for it.

Modifié par Aethyl, 20 juillet 2012 - 01:46 .

[Killahead]

I agree with a rather substantial base melee damage increase. That would solve a lot, but I don't like neither phase disruptor or biotic slash. The former re-introduces the concept of barrier drain for a power, which is something I've missed on both vanguards that have been added with DLC before, but it is a ranged power and the radius it is supposed to have doesn't seem to work well. A really counter-intuitive power for a Vanguard IMO. Biotic slash is one of these horribly stupid powers that basically encourages standing behind a wall and spamming it. I'd rather take a longer cooldown for some DR and a much, much shorter animation.

[Dr.Sid]

I wonder what OFFICIAL means. Maybe I'm using it wrong all the time ..

[Vulture N7]

To be honest, the Slayer would be totally playable if Biotic charge actually worked a bit better and their melee was buffed a little. I wouldn't go too crazy though, in the right hands the Slayer is an assassin that can do a sick amount of damage in very little time if you build them right.

[Nahuel6]

I left PD out. Rest 6. Biotic Charge than teleport dodge. Use Slash alot. use carnifex.

[DNC Protoman]

Carnagedude504 wrote...

There isn't anything besides the Phase Disruptor to buff IMO, everything on the Slayer is severely OP except that ability.

LOL please play a high level than bronze and make that judgement.

[Drummernate]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Carnagedude504 wrote...

There isn't anything besides the Phase Disruptor to buff IMO, everything on the Slayer is severely OP except that ability.

LOL please play a high level than bronze and make that judgement.

I beat Platinum with...
Me (Shadow)
2 Randoms (Slayers)
My Friend (Demolisher)

The slayers biotic slash combined with my electric slash were tearing everything apart and the match only took 25 minutes.

[skiadopsendow]

He needs sword mastery like the shadow