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[CmnDwnWrkn]

It's simple - if you don't want to share, then don't play Demolisher. Engineer is a support class. It isn't a grenade-spamming class. If your mentality isn't one of supporting your team first and foremost, then don't play engineer.

[waltervolpatto]

NOME wrote...

Take all the nades you need if you are playing with me.

I can always fire my harrier when I have no nades.

Always a pleasure to help teammates.

^ this.....

I love when I'm there and friend came to see me.... No wait they only want ammo....

Nevermind....

[iplay222]

L.ast L.ife wrote...

Beatrix Tair wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

NucularPikinic wrote...

Destroyers need their grenades. They have no powers.

^ This. More to the point if the demolisher is camping her own pylon that means she's not hogging nades from the ammo boxes.

^ This.

When I finally unlock the Demolisher (I'm damn well determined) I'll have my mic plugged in just to request that they leave my pylon to me.

I mean...I did put it down 'for' me...

Prepare for the nerd rage for not being a "team player" when the rest of your team ignores ammo boxes entirely for the rest of the match then rage melees you for placing your Pylon's elsewhere.

...

I lapped the map several times for grenades, but since im a destroyer im slow and i was also on platinum, so it is dangerous to wander off too much, I was downed more often than i should have been, if demolishers have full grenades why shouldn't they let someone else take some?

[A4RiZ0812]

How does the pylon work? Is on a timer of some sort giving ammo/grenadeds at the same time or 1 after another? So if someone else takes their ammos, have to wait for your turn but what if 2 or 3 waiting for ammo/grenades?

[Baerdface]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's simple - if you don't want to share, then don't play Demolisher. Engineer is a support class. It isn't a grenade-spamming class. If your mentality isn't one of supporting your team first and foremost, then don't play engineer.

Oh yes, ability to have 10 grenades and being able to tech burst huge groups of enemies totally doesn't scream "grenade spammer class".


Even without the grenades, pylon is awesome support with shield boost and damage boost.

Modifié par Baerdface, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:56 .

[ToaOrka]

Grenades are all they have, so yeah, it's kinda selfish to expect the Demolisher to cater to what you need if it makes her nigh-useless. Her grenades are more powerful than yours, I guarantee it.

[NOME]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

NOME wrote...

Take all the nades you need if you are playing with me.

I can always fire my harrier when I have no nades.

Always a pleasure to help teammates.

Did i ever tell you i loved you?

Now imagine that in a Krogan voice.

:wub:I just love  TEAMWORK in a COOP game.

PS everyone love krogan:wizard:

[Tangier008]

In my case I dont think people really get much of a chance other than me to use the pylon for anything other than shields buff.

I spam grenades and in a pinch im dropping my pylon at my feet so I usually take all the grenades once its down. I dont tend to drop a pylon and then promptly leave it, because I rather to have someone at least get constant use of the buff (which might as well be me ).

But sorry you have been playing with selfish players, that really is the bottom line on that.

[capn233]

Some of you people are clearly high.

Demolisher is essentially a grenadier class. Spam those grenades. I think you should share them, that is if there are some lying on the ground to pick up...

As for the Destroyer... it is a weapon damage class. That has a decent CC grenade.

[Knubbsal]

Yeah it's wrong to assume you can just take a demo's grenades and hog on his pylon. If he wasn't in the team, you'd have to get your own too. So be nice and let him get some profit of his own abilities.

[Beerfish]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

NOME wrote...

Take all the nades you need if you are playing with me.

I can always fire my harrier when I have no nades.

Always a pleasure to help teammates.

Did i ever tell you i loved you?

Now imagine that in a Krogan voice.

Oh blue rose of illium?

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Baerdface wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's simple - if you don't want to share, then don't play Demolisher. Engineer is a support class. It isn't a grenade-spamming class. If your mentality isn't one of supporting your team first and foremost, then don't play engineer.

Oh yes, ability to have 10 grenades and being able to tech burst huge groups of enemies totally doesn't scream "grenade spammer class".


Even without the grenades, pylon is awesome support with shield boost and damage boost.

If the Pylon was intended as a personal tool, it would have been designed that way.  It's there for you AND your team.  It isn't there for you to hog ALL the grenades.  If you keep the Pylon to yourself, I would imagine you're not a very good teammate.

capn233 wrote...

Some of you people are clearly high.

Demolisher
is essentially a grenadier class. Spam those grenades. I think you
should share them, that is if there are some lying on the ground to pick
up...

As for the Destroyer... it is a weapon damage class. That has a decent CC grenade.

If somebody plays like this, I'm not playing a second match with them, that's for sure.  If your teammates play with grenades, they need them too you know.  The Pylon is there for the team.  If somebody else gets the grenades at the same time that you need them, then quit camping and take your lazy ass to the ammo box.

The selfishness of some players never ceases to amaze me...

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 20 juillet 2012 - 05:04 .

[HNNNNNNG]

I can see both sides.
As a demolisher all i have are those nades and my gun. And those nades are much better then my gun. When people are just camping around my pylon taking my grenades WHEN THERES AN AMMO BOX A FEW STEPS AWAY it's kinda frustrating considering those grenades are my main damage.
Not to mention getting yelled at if I so much as move it a few feet away.

Yes, it's a good thing to help out team mates, but there's no need to ignore all the ammo box's everywhere and go straight for the pylon. however there's no need for a demolisher to be completely stingy about their pylon

[iplay222]

Knubbsal wrote...

Yeah it's wrong to assume you can just take a demo's grenades and hog on his pylon. If he wasn't in the team, you'd have to get your own too. So be nice and let him get some profit of his own abilities.

Read my post, I rarely went to the pylon, just when it was NESSERCERY, like a hack or if i couldnt get a box when we may have been in need for some CC or i just felt like grenades would be useful (i mainly used my weapons). As i stated the person was on full grenades and i just wanted a couple.

[SimulatedSnowman]

Grenades are not all they have. Following that logic, a QMI has nothing but grenades too, though I guess they could Tac Scan the crap out of some swarmers. Destroyers who don't put anything into missile launcher only have grenades as well. Vorcha Sentinels who don't spec Flamer. I didn't know Bioware made so many classes that just can't do anything if they don't have grenades. Ridiculous.

[Shinter37]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Baerdface wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's simple - if you don't want to share, then don't play Demolisher. Engineer is a support class. It isn't a grenade-spamming class. If your mentality isn't one of supporting your team first and foremost, then don't play engineer.

Oh yes, ability to have 10 grenades and being able to tech burst huge groups of enemies totally doesn't scream "grenade spammer class".


Even without the grenades, pylon is awesome support with shield boost and damage boost.

If the Pylon was intended as a personal tool, it would have been designed that way.  It's there for you AND your team.  It isn't there for you to hog ALL the grenades.  If you keep the Pylon to yourself, I would imagine you're not a very good teammate.

If you prevent your teammate from having ANY powers at all, then I would imagine that you are not a very good teammate.

It's all about being reasonable, but don't expect the Demolisher to not play the game so you can have more grenades.

[Dorje Sylas]

L.ast L.ife wrote...

Prepare for the nerd rage for not being a "team player" when the rest of your team ignores ammo boxes entirely for the rest of the match then rage melees you for placing your Pylon's elsewhere.

Bolded the important part. This seems to happen way more often then the OP getting yelled at for "sipping" a few nades off the pylon. I get far to many people clustering around the plyon looking for ammo handouts when actual ammo boxes are fairly near at hand, and unused.

When I'm having to run across the map to ammo boxes myself as a super squishy demolisher to get my bloody nades, I'm not happy spammer.

Modifié par Dorje Sylas, 20 juillet 2012 - 05:05 .

[Immortal Strife]

I don't think destroyers need grenades much to be honest, they are more for a last resort too much **** is around. Still, I would have let you use my pylon.

[ShiroDNX]

I see the pylon as similar to the GE's turret: Great lifesaver in a pinch. I've popped the turret on my cover just to refill my shields quick before finishing an enemy or running for a better spot, sure, but my biggest use has been popping it on snipers or melees under fire to help the team stay alive. Like a slayer I played with recently -- I just killed what I could, shredded shields where needed, and lobbed the turret near her after a Strike to keep her going. I know a great offense character when I see it.

So if I get demo, I'm gonna pop that boy near as many teammates as I can with the best spec I can get out of it for support. When the team wins, I win. And that sounds like a good deal to me.

[upinya slayin]

iplay222 wrote...

Over the Past few days I've encountered some people who simply refuse to allow anybody but themselves have ammo and grenades from their pylon.

On all Occasions I was playing the Destroyer with grenade cap 5 and their were 2 or more demolishers in the team.
My first game which i encountered this was on wednesday, I went to a supply pylon to get some nades and ammo (the destroyer can run out pretty fast), but the demolishers stood on their pylons and shot at me, I assumed that they needed them so I let them take the supplies, except they were being picked up, the players both had full supply. So I tried to get some again and both players came on their mics and began to shout and curse at me saying I should get my own grenades or spec out of them. I said that this is a team game and teamwork is the only way we are going to win this match, it's platinum afterall, they immediately replied by saying 'We are reporting you for being unhelpful team member and you should play a demolisher instead if i want to use grenades, the destroyer sucks anyway Learn to play' 
(i was topping the scoreboard).
They proceeded to kick me after the game, so i promptly left.

This happened in about 3 seperate games with different people with virtually the same outcome except others werent speaking like these 2. But they still wouldn't allow me to use their pylons, I wasn't using them excessively or anything, just when nessercery.

I Dont understand, Is it wrong for me to expect some teamwork and supplies when needed? or was I being a prat?

http://social.biowar...ndex/13244113/1
they destoyer sucks? really? i didn't get that memo?


joking aside, It is a team game. beat platinum with 2 destoyers and 2 demolisher last night and we all shared the 2 pylons becuase we were a good team and played as a team.

Also on gold before i had teammates put the pylon right on top of me instead of them becuase " they like playing a support character"  thats good teamwork.

[AshirahTSparkle]

iplay222 wrote...

Knubbsal wrote...

Yeah it's wrong to assume you can just take a demo's grenades and hog on his pylon. If he wasn't in the team, you'd have to get your own too. So be nice and let him get some profit of his own abilities.

Read my post, I rarely went to the pylon, just when it was NESSERCERY, like a hack or if i couldnt get a box when we may have been in need for some CC or i just felt like grenades would be useful (i mainly used my weapons). As i stated the person was on full grenades and i just wanted a couple.

I think many has answered your question. It's those hoggers's selfishness, nothing more than that, and you don't really need to read more or expect more answers. They are jerks and crappy teamplayer, nothing more.

[NucularPikinic]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's simple - if you don't want to share, then don't play Demolisher. Engineer is a support class. It isn't a grenade-spamming class. If your mentality isn't one of supporting your team first and foremost, then don't play engineer.

Right. Because having 0 actual powers and 2 different forms of grenades (one being unique) just oozes of "Don't grenade spam" and "Leave your massive tech bursts at the door".

Sharing isn't the issue. The issue is from other teammates who feel obligated to "support".

The N7 Demolisher would be support if it didn't do anything well on its own. However, the Demo is very very efficient in mass grenade tech death throughout the game due to high grenade count (due to upgrades in capacity, FOR intelligent/unintelligent spamming) and effective grenades.

With the Demolisher, support seems to take a back seat since good grenade spam actually destroys the enemy.

I'm one of those "sharing" Demolishers but I don't appreciate not having grenades available when I need them since grenades are my only option besides my gun.

I understand the OP wasn't trying to depend on the Demolisher pylons for grenades and therefore don't fault the OP for some expectation. The Demolisher shooting at teammates is obiously a level-above of selfish - but that's a high-horse judgement call and I don't like those.

[Baerdface]

Shinter37 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Baerdface wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's simple - if you don't want to share, then don't play Demolisher. Engineer is a support class. It isn't a grenade-spamming class. If your mentality isn't one of supporting your team first and foremost, then don't play engineer.

Oh yes, ability to have 10 grenades and being able to tech burst huge groups of enemies totally doesn't scream "grenade spammer class".


Even without the grenades, pylon is awesome support with shield boost and damage boost.

If the Pylon was intended as a personal tool, it would have been designed that way.  It's there for you AND your team.  It isn't there for you to hog ALL the grenades.  If you keep the Pylon to yourself, I would imagine you're not a very good teammate.

If you prevent your teammate from having ANY powers at all, then I would imagine that you are not a very good teammate.

It's all about being reasonable, but don't expect the Demolisher to not play the game so you can have more grenades.

Grenades are for me, because I don't get any weapon damage boosts from passives, other teammates get shield and damage boost, aswel as ammo (from the pylon). I think it's a fair trade. Destroyers already have all the weapon damage bonuses and Devastator mode, so they can mow things down with Typhoon and pick nades up on the way from ammo boxes.

Btw Demolishers grenades are better than any other grenades if you spec for power damage, why gimp my abilities just so some Batarian Soldier could throw his rank 3 inferno nades.

Modifié par Baerdface, 20 juillet 2012 - 05:06 .