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[ckriley]

Okay, so THAT'S what BioWare is trying to achieve with the Dragon Age universe.  I mean, the look, tone and feel of the original DA and GoT is striking.

The dark fantasy universe with adult themes, the characters, the setting, the lore, the political intrigue - King's Landing is Kirkwall - I can totally see GAME OF THRONES in DRAGON AGE.   I think BioWare lost their way a bit the DA2, but the tone is still intact.

I really hope the devs get back to their original vision for the DA universe because if it continues to be anything like GAME OF THRONES then we're in for a serious treat in the future.

Mr. Gaider, if you read this, please re-watch Seasons 1&2 of GAME OF THRONES!!!

[Lazy Jer]

...or read the books.

[ckriley]

Lazy Jer wrote...

...or read the books.

Or that, of course.

[Xilizhra]

I'd rather not, honestly. Martin's a good author, but his setting is rather too bleak and depressing for my tastes. DA has genuine hope in its tone.

[Olive Oomph]

Xilizhra wrote...

I'd rather not, honestly. Martin's a good author, but his setting is rather too bleak and depressing for my tastes. DA has genuine hope in its tone.

It also hasn't many gay people in it, I remember 2 and a half quasi lesbian scenes over all five books and the future for both Renly and his paramour is quite bleak.
Dragon Age does much better there, too!

[ckriley]

Xilizhra wrote...

I'd rather not, honestly. Martin's a good author, but his setting is rather too bleak and depressing for my tastes. DA has genuine hope in its tone.

You don't find Dragon Age and the world of Thedas bleak?  The hope as presented in the game is 100% relative.  Even in the first game after you defeat the archdemon, Ferelden is still beset on all sides by political intrigue and is guided by a moral compass that distinctly points south.

[Xilizhra]

Olive Oomph wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'd rather not, honestly. Martin's a good author, but his setting is rather too bleak and depressing for my tastes. DA has genuine hope in its tone.

It also hasn't many gay people in it, I remember 2 and a half quasi lesbian scenes over all five books and the future for both Renly and his paramour is quite bleak.
Dragon Age does much better there, too!

Ah, yes, that too. I suppose with the fantasy X-Men around, actual gay people pale in comparison for the religious establishment.

You don't find Dragon Age and the world of Thedas bleak?  The hope as
presented in the game is 100% relative.  Even in the first game after
you defeat the archdemon, Ferelden is still beset on all sides by
political intrigue and is guided by a moral compass that distinctly
points south.

I don't find it unduly bleak. The Blight was defeated, the nation's leadership can decisively improve... I even found the ending of DA2 hopeful, as the Chantry's control of the Circle was broken.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 20 juillet 2012 - 06:06 .

[Olive Oomph]

Xilizhra wrote...

Ah, yes, that too. I suppose with the fantasy X-Men around, actual gay people pale in comparison for the religious establishment.

I mean in a world that big, there are bound to be a few gay people, even among main characters. I had always hoped Asha Greyjoy would turn out to be a lesbian, for example, but that was a pipe dream! I still have hopes for Aria in the future or that Cersei will finally swear off men completely xD Or one of the Sand Snakes!

[Dave of Canada]

Was disappointed when DA2 decided to move away from the GoT feel they had in Origins.

[TEWR]

Origins didn't really feel too Game of Thrones like to me.

[Fallstar]

I never really saw much similarity between DA and ASOIAF. There's more similarities between DAO and the Eye of the World IMO.

[Knight of Dane]

I never thought DA felt like GoT

[Josielyn]

The thing I love about Game of Thrones is that nobody is perfect. Every single main character has their own dark flaw. That was the one great thing that saved Dragon age 2 for me, each companion had one major issue that made them less than perfect (Well, except maybe Aveline- her flaw was that she was too straight & narrow maybe!) that you had to figure out a solution to deal with.

[CELL55]

I believe they mentioned at one point that Game of Thrones was an inspiration. That made me groan. I read the first two books before I had to stop. To me, everything feels so contrived. Like bad things happen for no other reason other than the fact that the writer wants them to happen. It all became really predictable for me too. Without some happiness to serve as contrast, the GRIMDARK just makes me apathetic. <_<

I was pleasantly surprised to find the fires of hope in Dragon Age (Origins, anyway, DA2 was on clearly visible railroad tracks the whole time), and the contrast really made me invest emotionally in the story, because I WAS capable of bringing some small happiness into some people's lives, that not everything was set in stone and that all my hard work would be meaningful in some way, even if only briefly.

Modifié par CELL55, 22 juillet 2012 - 05:00 .

[Dave of Canada]

The bad things in Game of Thrones don't happen for no reason, they happen as a logical result of the character's prior decisions and you can see and understand how it leads up to it.

The Starks are idealistic and too trusting and it gets the better of them / the Lannisters hide their secrets and when it goes out, bad things happen / Stannis is beholden to a foreign religion and believes himself to be the one of prophecy, ect.

Even then, there's still plenty of hope in the grimdarkness, it's what makes every moment of triumph sweet. When someone is saved from their abusive husband / father and given a better life, you feel happier. When the antagonist gets their comeuppance, you feel satisfaction--depending on which side you're rooting for.

Hell, most of DA:O's "human" plot was very similar to GoT--considering that was one of their inspirations for Origins in the first place--with the Blight taking a backseat for the majority of the game and just adding some elements of high fantasy.

[ckriley]

Dave of Canada wrote...

The bad things in Game of Thrones don't happen for no reason, they happen as a logical result of the character's prior decisions and you can see and understand how it leads up to it.

The Starks are idealistic and too trusting and it gets the better of them / the Lannisters hide their secrets and when it goes out, bad things happen / Stannis is beholden to a foreign religion and believes himself to be the one of prophecy, ect.

Even then, there's still plenty of hope in the grimdarkness, it's what makes every moment of triumph sweet. When someone is saved from their abusive husband / father and given a better life, you feel happier. When the antagonist gets their comeuppance, you feel satisfaction--depending on which side you're rooting for.

Hell, most of DA:O's "human" plot was very similar to GoT--considering that was one of their inspirations for Origins in the first place--with the Blight taking a backseat for the majority of the game and just adding some elements of high fantasy.

Not to mention the Grey Wardens are just the Night Watch with a different name and slightly different lore.

[Han Shot First]

I think the A Song of Ice and Fire universe is superior to Dragon Age, but Grey Wardens > Night's Watch.

[hexaligned]

I never got a GOT feel from Origins, other than the very generic they are both low fantasy settings, that rely heavily on character development/growth. GOT is certainly better written, but the author is starting to go the Robert Jordan route with his latter books, imo. Not that I blame him, I like my money too.