I_eat_unicorns wrote...
You are being incredibly naive. Mass effect is an rpg game, despite it's transition to a more action-rpg into me3, it is still a game that focuses on player choice. In me 1 the player could have saved the council, or let them die. me2 had save the collector base, or destroy it, and the four endings in me3. Even though we were promised 16 different endings and didn't get them, it still goes to show how much player choice plays into a game like mass effect.
Those choices mean nothing at the end of the series unless the options themselves are a reflection of all previous choices. In the same way that Shepard dies in EVERY ending. As there is no ME4 the breath scene is meaningless. You get no further payoff than the disintegration endings.
And those "two" choices are not indoctriination, synthesis is terrible, but control could actually be a canon ending. And besides, this thread isn't about proving IT or not,
Indoctrination Theory says the whole ending sequence from knocked out Shepard onward never happened. That's not what I'm saying (dispite the narrative inconsistencies). I'm saying Control and Synthesis are the choice of an indoctrinated hero. You cannot explain the blind trust otherwise. Shepard is willing to KILL HIMSELF to advance the Reaper's agenda. I go into more detail, especially Control as everything prior paints it as a Reaper plot.
The Twilight God wrote...
Option 2: Control The Reapers.
The Reapers introduce the idea that Shepard, a sole human, can take control of the entire Reaper Armada. The Reapers, as we have been told in the past, are each a nation. Legion explained that there were a multitude of programs within Sovereign; perhaps equal in measure to the entire Geth Collective. And that is just one reaper. The Reaper forces at earth alone outnumber the entire allied fleet assembled by Shepard and even that is merely a fraction of their forces.
“TIM could not do it, but you? Oh, you’ve got it in the bag, Champ.” Sorry, but indoctrinated or not this proposition sounds fishy. Also note that the Control option doesn’t give Shepard control over all synthetics; just the reapers. The Geth, with their fancy reaper code upgrades, are spared this thralldom. Whatever happened to the indiscriminate sawed-off shotgun that is the Destroy Crucible?
All Shepard has to do is act as a fuse between two live electrical conduits and be disintegrated. Shepard has no prior data to suggest that being disintegrated via high voltage current will do anything except take his life and leave the Reapers free to continue destroying everything he has fought so hard these past 3 years to protect. It’s quite the gamble considering the option to destroy the Reapers and guarantee victory is right there.
Just moments earlier, Shepard argued with The Illusive Man against this very course of action. His exact statements were, “You're playing with things you don't understand. With power you shouldn't be able to use” and Shepard can question TIM asking, “Are you willing to bet humanity's existence on it?” Yet all it takes is one confirmation from the Reapers that it can work for Shepard to completely reverse his position on the subject. So now, betting humanity’s existence on the endorsement of the Reapers (who are currently doing their best to destroy all space-faring species) is now an acceptable risk. Recall what indoctrinated TIM said to Shepard when he asks, "Why waste your time with us if you can control the Reapers?" TIM (under Reaper influence) answers, "Because... I need you to believe." But you see, it's not TIM who needs Shepard to believe. Tim has the physical capacity to open the arms himself. It's the Reapers who need Shepard to believe. They are trying to indoctrinate Shepard through TIM as the Reapers tried to indoctrinate Kahlee Sanders through Paul Grayson. This is why this ending cannot be taken seriously.
Now we see why the Catalyst wishes to imply Shepard will die if he chooses to destroy the Reapers; to prevent any notion of self preservation from playing a role in the decision. Oh, and the Reapers are supposedly uncomfortable with Shepard taking control of them. This comment is thrown in to give the false impression that Shepard is in some way acting against the will of the Reapers with this action. He’s not.
http://social.biowar...9625/1#13059664The endings are a mess.
I_eat_unicorns wrote...
You also avoided my question: "
Would any writer make a "false" ending, then expand on that "false" ending, to make the "real" ending?"
Your post seems to assume I'm a IT guy. I'm not. However, I'll answer this question anyway,
If they just made Destroy the only ending without a Critical Fail message no one would be capable of denying that they are "Reapers Win" endings. At this point people just chalk it up to bad writting and handwave it. How do you indoctrinate a player? Indoctrination doesn't exist in real life just like a tank can't taunt an enemy player into attacking them in a MMO. So you, the players, in order to be indoctrinated, have to believe you're doing (did) the right thing. Otherwise, Destroy would be the only canon choice from a metagamming perspective. This way, we have people who failed, and in their last moments did the Reaper's will and are happy about it. It's not a good outcome, but it is valid in the fact that you are indoctrinated and succumbed to the reapers.
Modifié par The Twilight God, 21 juillet 2012 - 09:02 .
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