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[rmccowen]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

level 8 avenger? That is your answer right there.

Well, I sure kill a lot of enemies with it, so what's the problem? I'm an Adept, so it's only for when my powers are recharging anyways.

Assault rifles aren't very friendly to the (typical) Adept playstyle. An Asari Adept is at her worst when exposed to fire, and at her best when behind cover spamming Warp > Throw BEs. Firing an Avenger means breaking cover; dealing damage with an Avenger means remaining out of cover for an extended period of time.

An Asari Justicar has a substantially easier time, since both Biotic Sphere and Reave grant damage protection--meaning you can stand out in the open safely. But in that case, you probably want something that works better than the Avenger--maybe a high-level Revenant with some recoil reduction or a Harrier.

TL;DR: It's not a very good gun from an objective standpoint, and even good assault rifles are often poor choices for a BE-spam character.

[brblx]

I'd probably kindly ask you to change your weapon, or at LEAST go buy some packs. If no response is offered, I'd kick.

Frankly, I feel kinda bad for you. Playing enough to get a few hundred N7 points, with non-maxxed common guns? Painful. Go buy some recruit packs. Or, preferably, vet packs. I still use some of those uncommon weapons more than most rares (both at 10), especially on classes with a light weight capacity. It's unfortunate that the pulse rifle is a rare, as that's, IMO, the best successor to the Avenger. Similar weight, more accurate, higher DPS. IIRC it's a little more than half as much damage per shot, but well over 2x the ROF.

Phaeston also works, but frankly it just seems like a less-accurate and heavier version of the pulse rifle to me.

edit: as far as assault rifles and adepts, I think it works, so long as you carry something light enough. A good carnifex user might be a little more effective, but don't underestimate the ability to constantly spam fire in between biotic attacks. I can fire off a lot of pulse rifle rounds while waiting for warp to recharge.

Modifié par brblx, 20 juillet 2012 - 07:59 .

[Watta Hell]

Being exposed to enemy fire is a serious issue for adept. All weapons that require you to stand up and fire continuously are a bad choice. Take the pistol with the heaviest punch that you have. It is light and you do not need to stand out of cover for long.

[Distilled Poison]

I will immediately vote to kick anyone using

A: common weapons not at level 10. It takes no time to max them out.
B: An Avenger with stability dampener. If the Avenger has too much recoil/spread for you, you shouldn't be playing above silver.

I'd kick for these things on Gold. On Platinum, I can't believe you're surprised you're being kicked. You'd be better off offering the enemies a delicate foot massage than shooting them with an Avenger 7. What a joke.

[T41rdEye]

Its very easy to max common weapons, so having an Avenger at <level 10 isn't going to inspire much confidence, especially on higher difficulties. If you really like your Avenger buy a few more Recruit packs.

[Necrotron]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Tom-N7- wrote...

A more important question. Do you play on Xbox?

Yes.

There is your answer.  I'm pretty sure Xbox users kick 1/3 people just to keep their kick average up.

[nukembaby]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Weapon: M-8 Avenger VII w. Stability Damper V and Magazine Upgrade
Ammo bonus: Warp Rounds III
Weapon Bonus: Assault Rifle Amp II
Armor Bonus: Power Amplifier Module III
Gear Bonus: Assault Rifle Amp II

Stability V and Mag upgrade on Avenger??? Completely inappropriate weapon for plat, and completely inappropriate mods for that weapon. Gear and equipment ok not great.

Edit: OP trolling?

Modifié par nukembaby, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:35 .

[jaydubs67]

You're using an Avenger VII.  Let's leave out the fact that the Avenger does terrible DPS, and even for an adept there are far better weapons at a similar or better weight.  Using an Avenger VII means you didn't even have enough credits to max out common weapons, so you're incredibly poor in terms of credits.  To be that poor, you must not have completed many gold games, since 2-3 gold games would probably be enough to max all commons.  

If you haven't completed many gold games, you aren't ready for platinum.  Ergo, you're probably someone who is just asking to be carried by better players so you can get more credits.  This is not the type of teammate most people are looking for.  

Now, I'm not sure if that's actually true.  I don't know you, and your profile is private.  It's just conjecture on my part.  But it is the most likely inference one would draw from the fact that you are joining a platinum lobby with an Avenger VII.  

[Nelzeben]

Yeah, as others have said - if you have a common weapon at VII as well as using mods on it that could be substituted with much better ones, it either means you aren't aware of a few game mechanics or you haven't played enough to unlock better weapons/mods, both reason to kick you on Platinum.

That's not to say you wouldn't be an asset, but you'd be the exception. I don't know if you've attempted Platinum before, but power spamming doesn't really seem to be enough there, so you definitely need a powerful weapon as well.

[loungeshep]

Are you using one with Lash? I tend to stay out of games with the guy who uses lash because almost every time, I'm in the middle of killing someone and here comes Biotic Lash guy killing my prey.

;Then Bioware blessed us with N7 Shadow, now the annoyed is the annoying.


Take THAT Biotic lash guy!

[nick91_99]

Cayse wrote...

Maybe you don't have a missile glitch weapon equipped and so don't want you!

exactly. equip a striker and people will accept you

[Conduit0]

Distilled Poison wrote...

I will immediately vote to kick anyone using

A: common weapons not at level 10. It takes no time to max them out.
B: An Avenger with stability dampener. If the Avenger has too much recoil/spread for you, you shouldn't be playing above silver.

I'd kick for these things on Gold. On Platinum, I can't believe you're surprised you're being kicked. You'd be better off offering the enemies a delicate foot massage than shooting them with an Avenger 7. What a joke.

I don't kick people, but I have to admit, I agree with this. If I saw someone with an Avenger 7 with stability and clip upgrades, I'd kindly suggest they go back to bronze where they belong, because they clearly have not played the game long enough to even grasp the basic mechanics of the weapons.

[Michaelxdrift]

have a x weapon suited for the character. adept? carnifex x. Iffi? Krasae.

Have your N7 around 600+ also.

If those dont work? Idk what to tell you except to ignore and move on.

[LuckyBullet95]

XBL... honestly I don't trust on XBL. Inside Team AreleX everyone is great but you step out of that circle and you get point****s, missile glitchers, inexperienced players and general dicks. I'm fine giving people a pass to Platinum if I know my team is good enough to carry someone and still maintain a 15-25 minute time but if I'm not I generally use the Precautionary Principle....

Sorry man, this isn't Gold and you will often get kicked on sight for such low weapons. Also why bother using the Avenger VII? Surely you have better weapons than that...

[FellowMusicFan]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Mandalore313 wrote...

What's your loadout?

Weapon: M-8 Avenger VII w. Stability Damper V and Magazine Upgrade
Ammo bonus: Warp Rounds III
Weapon Bonus: Assault Rifle Amp II
Armor Bonus: Power Amplifier Module III
Gear Bonus: Assault Rifle Amp II

It's not fantastic, but it's way better than what the other guys had.

They could've been looking for a very specific character to join them. I know when I play Platinum and we are down a guy and we need that specific role filled we'll kick them regardless of equipment. We just need that specific role filled. (to clarify we do tell them we are only kicking them because they don't have the role we need for group synergy, if they don't have a mic to communicate on Platinum that's their problem)

[elPrimoFilipino]

Do you have better weapons? I'm guessing 'no' since your Avenger is not maxed yet. Do you play gold regularly and successfully or did you just want to try out platinum?

[brblx]

Watta Hell wrote...

Being exposed to enemy fire is a serious issue for adept. All weapons that require you to stand up and fire continuously are a bad choice. Take the pistol with the heaviest punch that you have. It is light and you do not need to stand out of cover for long.

It depends on your playstyle. Yeah, constant cover is pretty much required for most of Platinum.

On gold, I get tired of people telling me I 'suck' or don't know how to play because I [generally] don't use cover. It's possible to use your powers and weapon more efficiently when not dealing with the clunky cover system, and you may actually take LESS damage if you know how to move. If you poke out of cover at the wrong time, you're definitately getting hit. When on the move, it can almost always be avoided by a combination of evasive maneuvers and smart positioning (as in, using objects on-the-fly to block projectiles without actually having to 'take cover').

Modifié par brblx, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:06 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

elPrimoFilipino wrote...

Do you have better weapons? I'm guessing 'no' since your Avenger is not maxed yet. Do you play gold regularly and successfully or did you just want to try out platinum?

I got plenty of weapons. Switched to the M6 Carnifex V after making this thread, and it worked a lot better. The Scorpion is also quite good, since it lets you carpet bomb the enemies from afar. 

[Gazz66666]

loungeshep wrote...

Are you using one with Lash? I tend to stay out of games with the guy who uses lash because almost every time, I'm in the middle of killing someone and here comes Biotic Lash guy killing my prey.

;Then Bioware blessed us with N7 Shadow, now the annoyed is the annoying.


Take THAT Biotic lash guy!

Not that this is all about teamwork, no siree. It's clearly a competition to see who comes top.

Just played a Platinum game as a Phoenix Adept (Smash/Lash spec) alongside an N7 Slayer/Shadow (Biotic Slash one), with an Asari Justicar and Salarian Engineer as backup.

DEM BIOTIC EXPLOSIONS. Never seen quite so many. We friggin' walked it. No-one was magnet grabbed, only one Phantom sync-kill. And a full goddamn extraction. I went in packing a my trusty CarniX and just my Mental Focusser II gear.

Take THAT people who forget it's not a competitive game.

brblx wrote...
It depends on your playstyle. Yeah, constant cover is pretty much required for most of Platinum.

 

Not neccessarily. In the game I mentioned above, myself and the N7 player spent most of our time out of "cover" (i.e. we were standing up) smashing and slashing our way through ****.

Modifié par Gazz66666, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:13 .

[DarthSliver]

Your on Xbox 360 and your using an AR with an adept, those were your first 2 mistakes.

[capn233]

Can't see your manifest since your profile is private.

In any event, I agree with comments about the Avenger. It is a pitiful weapon that is barely adequate on a Human Soldier with max damage Adrenaline Rush... at least on Gold. Plus Stability does nearly nothing on the Avenger, it is plenty stable already. Use AR Piercing and then your choice for a second mod if you just have to use that weapon.

Don't you have the Phalanx at the least?

[Tenkawa]

Well, we can't see your manifest, so I can't review your equipment, but as a fellow level 300, I'd kick you for that weapon on platinum. (Yes, I play xbox and have been kicked before)

what pissed me off was getting kicked out for taking a SI as the team had no infiltrators, but they were fine with a GE. silly people.

Finally got a plat game in (after leaving about 10 due to bad loadouts/low N7) and we wiped on wave 8. I had burned through a bunch of consumables and was tired of seeing the infiltrator run off. He finally figured it out by wave 6, but by then we had all run through almost all our consumables.

[Homey C-Dawg]

They're afraid you'll report them when they start missile glitching.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

capn233 wrote...

Can't see your manifest since your profile is private.

In any event, I agree with comments about the Avenger. It is a pitiful weapon that is barely adequate on a Human Soldier with max damage Adrenaline Rush... at least on Gold. Plus Stability does nearly nothing on the Avenger, it is plenty stable already. Use AR Piercing and then your choice for a second mod if you just have to use that weapon.

Don't you have the Phalanx at the least?

Yes, I do have the Phlanx. Is that one better than the Carnifex?

[sydsyrious]

I've never played an Adept on Platinum.....however, just thinking about the amount of time out of cover shooting with an AR (if I'm not an AJ), would concern me. Also, since it's not just one or two shots, chances are high enough time isn't been spent on spamming powers. Just a thought....and good luck.