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[CDRSkyShepard]

Optimystic_X wrote...

You have my sword omniblade.

And you have my bow...

Ohwait, wrong franchise. XD

[Soultaker08]

Full Support!!!!! ME2 Squaddies for Me3

[DistantUtopia]

Optimystic_X wrote...

You have my sword omniblade.

And my axe Claymore

[JeffZero]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

And Tali! How could I forget.

There's no Samara replacement, nope. My first file had her dead so I would know that well.

Man, that mission is kind of edgier without Samara. Her daughter basically reminds Shepard that not everyone's gonna worship the ground he walks on, even in these times.

Oh snappp...Shepard got sassed! Lol.

While I was at SDCC, the devs definitely heard one-on-one with the fans that they wanted more ME2 squaddies, that they didn't feel like there was enough. We'll have to see what they do.

That's good to know and the first I've heard on that. When it comes to DLC especially, there's a stronger sense of, "okay, what do the fans want?", I think, with regard to the franchise. The DLC isn't going to be purchased by anywhere near the total number of people who bought the game itself, so it needs to appeal more to a specific group. Bearing that in mind, and considering the existence of Extended Cut in general, I think our odds are definitely higher than zero!

[Vlk3]

That's good news, I'll make sure more people will know about this.

[JeffZero]

Vlk3 wrote...

That's good news, I'll make sure more people will know about this.

Thank you.

[dreman9999]

DistantUtopia wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

You have my sword omniblade.

And my axe Claymore

And my bow Valient.

[MegaSovereign]

jreezy wrote...

If this happens leave Legion out of it, I don't understand the hype with that thing. I'd love to see more Jack and Miranda though.

With all due respect Legion got a fair bit of screen time. Unlike the other ME2 squaddies Legion is at least important to the plot.

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

If this happens leave Legion out of it, I don't understand the hype with that thing. I'd love to see more Jack and Miranda though.

There are certain ME2-introduced squadmates whose stories I feel are complete and fulfilling as-is. Legion's is one of them, although I get the impression you mean to imply you just don't like him, which is fine too.

[JeffZero]

MegaSovereign wrote...

jreezy wrote...

If this happens leave Legion out of it, I don't understand the hype with that thing. I'd love to see more Jack and Miranda though.

With all due respect Legion got a fair bit of screen time. Unlike the other ME2 squaddies Legion is at least important to the plot.

Mordin is as well. Thane is too, somewhat briefly, but many of his fans are not pleased. Jack and Grunt feel very much in keeping with their natural development, even if many would like to see more of them. Jackmancers in particular has a strong call on that one, and rightly so. Kasumi and Zaeed, well, they didn't get much and I'd love to see more, but as DLC squadmates I'm not really holding my breath.

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

That's good to know and the first I've heard on that. When it comes to DLC especially, there's a stronger sense of, "okay, what do the fans want?", I think, with regard to the franchise. The DLC isn't going to be purchased by anywhere near the total number of people who bought the game itself, so it needs to appeal more to a specific group. Bearing that in mind, and considering the existence of Extended Cut in general, I think our odds are definitely higher than zero!

I hung out at the BioWare base like a nolife pretty much the entire time XD (I didn't have a pass, and you didn't need one to be there, so... lol) and I kept my ears perked. They were definitely listening to feedback, and fielding difficult questions with genuine concern and not PR BS. In fact, I was in a conversation with Mike Gamble and three pro-enders...and they were like, "Yeah man, we have no idea what the big deal is about" and he said, "Now guys, a lot of people had legitimate issues with the ending..." yada yada paraphrasing yada. He didn't marginalize it at all, which I thought was awesome. He could just as easily have said, "Well you know, some people were upset so we had to do something about it." But no, he was actually giving disgruntled fans a fair shake (more so, in my opinion, actually). Right there, my respect for the guy went up a few notches.

In person, it's a lot easier to make your voice heard in a constructive manner, in a way that will make them more willing and able to actually listen to what you're saying. On the internet, it's walls of text and whining and complaining, and hammering point after point after point. That can and does get exhausting for anyone. But in person it was awesome to be able to say, "Hey, we really missed the ME2 squaddies in ME3 and if it's possible we really want to see more of them in future DLC." And hear them respond directly back, like, "You're not the first who has said that, we'll definitely look into it." No guarantees, but no one can make guarantees, here. It's just nice to know they acknowledge it.

And those are the kinds of fans they'll listen to for DLC...the ones hardcore enough to travel to SDCC and talk with them face-to-face. They're the market sample for DLC purchases. You're absolutely right about that one.

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

jreezy wrote...

If this happens leave Legion out of it, I don't understand the hype with that thing. I'd love to see more Jack and Miranda though.

There are certain ME2-introduced squadmates whose stories I feel are complete and fulfilling as-is. Legion's is one of them, although I get the impression you mean to imply you just don't like him, which is fine too.

The bold, that's it.

Well, most fans have at least one hugely controversial opinion. That's what establishes us as individuals. That and a bunch of other things in life, but in this case, that's the big one.

[BatmanPWNS]

Ah ME3 DLC I can actually get behind?

[JeffZero]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

That's good to know and the first I've heard on that. When it comes to DLC especially, there's a stronger sense of, "okay, what do the fans want?", I think, with regard to the franchise. The DLC isn't going to be purchased by anywhere near the total number of people who bought the game itself, so it needs to appeal more to a specific group. Bearing that in mind, and considering the existence of Extended Cut in general, I think our odds are definitely higher than zero!

I hung out at the BioWare base like a nolife pretty much the entire time XD (I didn't have a pass, and you didn't need one to be there, so... lol) and I kept my ears perked. They were definitely listening to feedback, and fielding difficult questions with genuine concern and not PR BS. In fact, I was in a conversation with Mike Gamble and three pro-enders...and they were like, "Yeah man, we have no idea what the big deal is about" and he said, "Now guys, a lot of people had legitimate issues with the ending..." yada yada paraphrasing yada. He didn't marginalize it at all, which I thought was awesome. He could just as easily have said, "Well you know, some people were upset so we had to do something about it." But no, he was actually giving disgruntled fans a fair shake (more so, in my opinion, actually). Right there, my respect for the guy went up a few notches.

In person, it's a lot easier to make your voice heard in a constructive manner, in a way that will make them more willing and able to actually listen to what you're saying. On the internet, it's walls of text and whining and complaining, and hammering point after point after point. That can and does get exhausting for anyone. But in person it was awesome to be able to say, "Hey, we really missed the ME2 squaddies in ME3 and if it's possible we really want to see more of them in future DLC." And hear them respond directly back, like, "You're not the first who has said that, we'll definitely look into it." No guarantees, but no one can make guarantees, here. It's just nice to know they acknowledge it.

And those are the kinds of fans they'll listen to for DLC...the ones hardcore enough to travel to SDCC and talk with them face-to-face. They're the market sample for DLC purchases. You're absolutely right about that one.

Well, I'm incredibly glad you went. Not just to get the word out to them in the best possible way, but because it sounds like you had a good time and got to see the side of BioWare most of those who have become so dispassioned with them might not be aware exists, and might come around a little if they knew it was there, buried beneath the mountain of corporate-speak, heh.

I'll sign on AIM sometime, hit me up and we can talk more about your adventure. 

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

jreezy wrote...

If this happens leave Legion out of it, I don't understand the hype with that thing. I'd love to see more Jack and Miranda though.

There are certain ME2-introduced squadmates whose stories I feel are complete and fulfilling as-is. Legion's is one of them, although I get the impression you mean to imply you just don't like him, which is fine too.

I'm with you on that. For the former squadmates that weren't squaddies this time around, Legion, Mordin, and Wrex had very meaningful parts to play, and that worked beautifully.

I wouldn't say so much for Thane, since his appearance is so brief and he isn't a part of a major arc, just the story arc for that one mission. Not to mention he dies no matter what you do...(yeah yeah Kepral's is fatal blah blah) but if we're gonna cure the Genophage, we can cure Thane. It can be our gift to the Drell people to bring them into the war.

Miranda also wasn't that satisfying mostly because that entire story arc was shaky. (Cerberus I hate you because you helped my daughter! Doing Indoctrination research, are we? We'll bang.) Jack had a natural character progression, which I liked, but there has to be a way to include her more. Samara, too.

[JeffZero]

Agreed on all points, Sky.

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

Agreed on all points, Sky.

Yes, AIM soon. Lol.

[Blueprotoss]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

In fact, is there a replacement for Samara at all on her side mission if she dies in ME2?

Maybe Morinth.

DistantUtopia wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

You have my sword omniblade.

And my axe Claymore

Gotta love a LotR reference. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:20 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

Blueprotoss wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

In fact, is there a replacement for Samara at all on her side mission if she dies in ME2?

Morinth before the Suicide Mission.

Well, yes...but I meant if Samara was your squaddie and she died in the SM.

[crimzontearz]

No reunion...no purchase

[darthnick427]

I approve of this. MOAR GRUNT, JACK, MIRANDA, ZAEED, AND KASUMI !

and Thane if possible

Modifié par darthnick427, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:25 .

[darthnick427]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

In fact, is there a replacement for Samara at all on her side mission if she dies in ME2?

Maybe Morinth.

No, Morinth just turns into a Banshee on Earth.

Speaking of which. Still find that hilarious XD