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[sy7ar]

Video here. 

I only used AP ammo I, power amp I, VI III, commando package V

I've seen some other videos and their clearance speed is just unbearable imo, N7 slayer should be much more awesome than that!

Let me break it down to you why other people's style is not effective: biotic slash doesn't have good synergy with charge, unlike smash where it can prime and charge detonate, let alone its ridiculously long and exposed animation; melee is just a cool feature, can never kill a phantom on its own. 

Finally, many people underestimate the power of the super palm blaster, as you can witness in my video. It's got 5 m radius, decent damage, I use it like novaguard, except it deals higher damage with higher RoF, and shoot it in the middle of a group of troopers, they all go down in seconds. What's more, it staggers phantoms and they can't block it, take that phantoms, I've got upgraded version! Tho it's a shame I can never win a sword fight against phantoms. I can uploade footage for wave 3 and 4 if there are requests, where you can see I murder phantoms with their own medicine 

Build:
• Charge: Radius, Power Synergy, Barrier
• Phase Disruptor: Damage, Efficient Blast, Shied Damage
• Biotic Slash: None
• N7 Slayer: Damage & Capacity, Power Damage, Weapon Damage
• Fitness: Durability, Shield Recharge, Fitness Expert

Normally I'd go for 66653 tho, biotic slash is alright.

Nevertheless, I feel like he's still inferior to phoenix vanguard (I know how good the phoenix can be, check out my 21 min phoenix solo in my sig) and is not ready for platinum. (buff plz?)

Modifié par sy7ar, 20 juillet 2012 - 07:51 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

I'll stay with the 6/6/6/5/3 build. I like being able to spam Biotic Slash through walls. Slashguard for the win!

Nice vid though, you use the Phase Disruptor like it should be used , a stagger lock weapon.

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:08 .

[sy7ar]

bump in hope of more people learning this N7 secret

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I'll stay with the 6/6/6/5/3 build. I like being able to spam Biotic Slash through walls. Slashguard for the win! 

Nice vid though, you use the Phase Disruptor like it should be used [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie], a stagger lock weapon.

 

I just find that it's not as strong as smash and for example when you use it on banshee, you don't have time to dodge when you finish your animation. Also, PD has good synergy with charge. 

Modifié par sy7ar, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:38 .

[Aethyl]

Shhhhh, don't reveal all the secrets about this amazing class. =(

Still, good video, pretty intense, as a Slayer should be played.

[-Sxx-]

@Jay, I don't feel comfortable with only 3 in fitness, seems as if I'm asking to be a liability. o.O People who use only lvl 3 in fitness; do you always ensure you're the host?

[Pedactor]

So you use PD like Nova, but Nova's stronger and knocks over all the things.

You don't really melee at all either.

Don't get me wrong, that's a good way to go, just seems to similar to a Nova Guard to me.

[Doc-Jek]

Phase disrupter based slayers are a terrible idea... It's basically a novaguard without the invincibility frames. Useless. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by nearly dying several times on the first few waves of gold. Any crowd control class can easily dominate assault troopers, cents and guardians.

[exxtrooper]

It still can't do **** against bosses, not worth using IMO.

[Haersvaelg]

Nice vid. Would like to see phantom slaying as well

[GodlessPaladin]

So you were rather underwhelmed with the Slayer on Platinum too?

I haven't really tried the Slayer that much because I dislike the class on principle.  I can't stand the whole slash mechanic.  Who thought long range spam through walls would be fun times for a Vanguard?   Blargh.  I'll mess around with it when I get a chance though.  

Thanks for the vids as always, Sy7ar!

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:51 .

[Credit2team]

without the knockdown on PD you're a glass cannon, much like the drellgaurd

[sy7ar]

Doc-Jek wrote...

Phase disrupter based slayers are a terrible idea... It's basically a novaguard without the invincibility frames. Useless. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by nearly dying several times on the first few waves of gold. Any crowd control class can easily dominate assault troopers, cents and guardians.

It's not viable when there's no invincibility frames, guess not everyone can take the risk. I actually got 3 waves survived on wave 4, not a single consumable used except rocket on target. In what ways it's better than nova? you deal 780 damage times 3 across 5 meters in 2 secs, without sending unshielded enemies away (they are just stunned), and with nova, it's 577 damage 2 times across 5 meters in 2 secs, guess you can do the math. Useless? show me a better clear time with nova guard then. 

[sy7ar]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

So you were rather underwhelmed with the Slayer on Platinum too?

I haven't really tried the Slayer that much because I dislike the class on principle.  I can't stand the whole slash mechanic.  Who thought long range spam through walls would be fun times for a Vanguard?   Blargh.  I'll mess around with it when I get a chance though.  

Thanks for the vids as always, Sy7ar!

My pleasure, and I agreed. 

[sy7ar]

Pedactor wrote...

So you use PD like Nova, but Nova's stronger and knocks over all the things.

You don't really melee at all either.

Don't get me wrong, that's a good way to go, just seems to similar to a Nova Guard to me.

Half blast can't even stagger phantom, and PD can take down her shield (2 blasts with some level 1 amp) before you charge in. Melee looks cool, but does it do 780 damage across 5 meters, with shield bonus? You also take more risk. I only use melee to teleport. 

[Doc-Jek]

Useless may be the wrong word, it's just rather obsolete compared to other vanguards. It's far to fragile to be overly effective on gold and platinum, and I guarantee a novaguard could solo a lot faster (and with a lot less close calls).

[Gamemako]

You're quite skilled as usual, but I am at a loss for how you spend half of your time with no barrier and enemies shooting at you but never get hit. Is there a secret to that?

Also, PD doesn't stagger Phantoms without the Knockback evo, and BC doesn't stagger them without F&D evo. I'm not sure how you're getting the stagger there?

[sy7ar]

Doc-Jek wrote...

Useless may be the wrong word, it's just rather obsolete compared to other vanguards. It's far to fragile to be overly effective on gold and platinum, and I guarantee a novaguard could solo a lot faster (and with a lot less close calls).

Nova doesnt stagger phantoms any more as far as I know, PD does, and you can't use your weapon when you're using nova.  Nova doesnt stun lock them in one place either, well, try it yourself, with nova guard, to replicate my wave 1 time. 

Besides, it's not only comparing to other vanguards, I am mainly comparing it to other slayer builds, I don't think you can clear this fast with biotic slash or melee either. 

[Blind2Society]

I only watched the first 40 seconds but that's exactly how I use it as well. Oh, and phantoms are a pain in the ass with the slayer though mainly because BC doesn't stagger them.

I still think the class needs a bit of help though. Probably some type of buff to PD and/or allowing BS to prime BEs.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:40 .

[sy7ar]

Gamemako wrote...

You're quite skilled as usual, but I am at a loss for how you spend half of your time with no barrier and enemies shooting at you but never get hit. Is there a secret to that?

Also, PD doesn't stagger Phantoms without the Knockback evo, and BC doesn't stagger them without F&D evo. I'm not sure how you're getting the stagger there?

I don't just stand there, i charge as soon as my shield down, I stagger them, I kill them fast enough, I was indoor, when I'm out in the LZ, I had the red screen, but still manageable, also, shield gate health gate is your friend. 

It does stagger phantom without knockback. There's no force value on power screen but it still staggers everything, or is my game bugged?

[Uchimura]

Why kill your shields on assault troopers when you can just hit the trigger o_O

Looks good on slightly tougher groups, but the radius is so small..

Modifié par Uchimura, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:39 .

[P51Mus7ang]

Does your character get a chace to breathe????) Good job!

[nhcre8tv1]

All Mass Effect 2 style up in here.

[TheAdventurer29]

For me, Radius and Knockdown evolution is so much better. For example, when you knockdown Centurion Shield, the next hit will put him on the ground. With radius, Everyone will be put on the ground. So there is no close range enemy fire.

[sy7ar]

Uchimura wrote...

Why kill your shields on assault troopers when you can just hit the trigger o_O

Looks good on slightly tougher groups, but the radius is so small..

When you can't deal high enough single target DPS, you seek for AOE damage, it's about taking down 3 targets at the same time before they disband. And did I not use my trigger? It's the combo (weapon/charge/blast synergize with each other) that makes him a blast. 

[sy7ar]

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

For me, Radius and Knockdown evolution is so much better. For example, when you knockdown Centurion Shield, the next hit will put him on the ground. With radius, Everyone will be put on the ground. So there is no close range enemy fire.

Actually I haven't tried those evolutions, do they make you kill fast enough tho?