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THIS IS how you use N7 Slayer effectively, other videos I've seen are too slow


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Gamemako

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sy7ar wrote...

It does stagger phantom without knockback. There's no force value on power screen but it still staggers everything, or is my game bugged?


One of us is bugged. Direct hits with efficiency evo didn't stagger troopers for me, which is why I switched to knockback.

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Impressive. But it's hard to appreciate this video at such a crappy framerate.

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TheAdventurer29

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sy7ar wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

For me, Radius and Knockdown evolution is so much better. For example, when you knockdown Centurion Shield, the next hit will put him on the ground. With radius, Everyone will be put on the ground. So there is no close range enemy fire.


Actually I haven't tried those evolutions, do they make you kill fast enough tho?


Yep on Gold, I killed three Phantoms in row with two shots and a charge. Very effective. Of course u need Power Amplifier 3 or 4. Knockdown is much better believe me. Because in case the enemy shoot ur shield, u can't do the third blast even if you took Efficient Blast. Radius has 7 meters. That's like a Arc Grenade! :innocent:

Modifié par TheAdventurer29, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:57 .


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Mad Scientist wrote...

Impressive. But it's hard to appreciate this video at such a crappy framerate.


You speak for my pain, and this is one of the best frame rate I can get, imagine what it'd be with 3 other players on wave 8 9

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By the way, the force of Phase Disruptor is so strong, it stuns everyone especially banshees to knock ur teammates to loose but he is much better against Cerberus and Geth with Shield Evolutions.

Modifié par TheAdventurer29, 20 juillet 2012 - 09:56 .


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Problem is lag.

If you do what you did in the video in a game where you aren't the host you will end up dead immediately.

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mywaywardson20232018 wrote...

Problem is lag.

If you do what you did in the video in a game where you aren't the host you will end up dead immediately.


Exactly he is VERY VERY VERY host dependent. U NEED TO HOST. Ur cannons will do no **** if you are not a host. <_<

Modifié par TheAdventurer29, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:01 .


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bd2eazy

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yall beat me too it... after watching the first 15 seconds
i was like "hmm yea... real nice if you host, crap otherwise"
charge dependant characters are frustrating... and this is
even less efficient on xbox. this is cool none the less.

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mywaywardson20232018 wrote...

Problem is lag.

If you do what you did in the video in a game where you aren't the host you will end up dead immediately.


I thought it's an unwritten rule here that you host to play vanguards, no?

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jfruelas521

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You just taught me how to play the slayer. Now teach me to play all the other classes like to you, haha.

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This is my build. I like it on gold and cerberus. It's ok against reapers. Geth shoot me the instant I come out of charge with rockets and prime balls.

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Gamemako wrote...

sy7ar wrote...

It does stagger phantom without knockback. There's no force value on power screen but it still staggers everything, or is my game bugged?


One of us is bugged. Direct hits with efficiency evo didn't stagger troopers for me, which is why I switched to knockback.


I've read that the base force of phase disrupter is 800N.  This means that, after using charge with power damage increase, it will have a force of 1000N.  The knockdown is said to add 200N.  Thus, if sy7ar is using PD after charge and you are not, he will stagger phantoms and you won't.

Edit: for gold.  Phantoms require even more force on platinum, but I haven't seen anyone post the exact number for that.

Modifié par tyhw, 20 juillet 2012 - 10:41 .


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landylan wrote...

This is my build. I like it on gold and cerberus. It's ok against reapers. Geth shoot me the instant I come out of charge with rockets and prime balls.


It actually works better on geth gold then cerb since there's no guardians and phantom sword slash, just beware of primes. 

jfruelas521 wrote...

You just taught me how to play the slayer. Now teach me to play all the other classes like to you, haha.

 

I think there're better players with videos for other classes lying around, go look for them :happy:

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It might work better on geth with maps that aren't open, but if I try to go crazy on hydra with geth I'm hit by rockets everywhere. I can see why it's effective with predictable and stagger vulnerable enemies though.

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landylan wrote...

It might work better on geth with maps that aren't open, but if I try to go crazy on hydra with geth I'm hit by rockets everywhere. I can see why it's effective with predictable and stagger vulnerable enemies though.


Ah, and the only geth game I played him on was Hydra :D

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imo www.youtube.com/watch   THAT is how you slayer..

that's my video =D

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Nice vid, you wipe the floor with mooks. I would like to see how you handle bosses with your set-up; also, I think your Piranha would have done the same DPs as your constant phase disrupter. Nonetheless your vid was enjoyable to watch-thanks.

The difference between a novaguard and the slayer is that Nova sets off BEs, PD does not.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 21 juillet 2012 - 12:03 .


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sy7ar wrote...

landylan wrote...

It might work better on geth with maps that aren't open, but if I try to go crazy on hydra with geth I'm hit by rockets everywhere. I can see why it's effective with predictable and stagger vulnerable enemies though.


Ah, and the only geth game I played him on was Hydra :D

You make me feel bad:crying:. Could you upload a video of it? I'm just curious to see how you would play there. I'd also like to see the way you fight on later waves with bosses if you make another video.

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Does it stagger on Phantoms on Platinum? Fairly easy to test since Cerberus/Platinum has Phantoms on Wave 1.

Great work as always sy7ar.

Modifié par Achire, 20 juillet 2012 - 11:51 .


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gotta abuse light melee immunity frames, and slash other things like you would smash i guess. but yeah for plat i dunno xD. my video is on gold

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sy7ar wrote...

It does stagger phantom without knockback. There's no force value on power screen but it still staggers everything, or is my game bugged?


Your game isnt bugged. PD will stagger Phantoms and even an Atlas :) Thanks for posting the vid. I was using PD the wrong way - targeting enemies instead of the ground nearby. Gonna give this dude another go after I'm done playing the Fury furiously ;)

Modifié par Fortack, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:09 .


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Just check back and there're some new comments :D

So quick replies

@Achire, it does, just not I die too often on plat if I use the same tactic, they have more health and more dangerous, that's why I say he's effective on gold.

@ Fortack, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's work as intended, I was surprised too when it staggered Atlas, and tried the Fury, furiously awesome!

For fighting bosses - you don't fight them, you leave them for last, there're only 2 big boss units on later waves of gold, they won't get in your way that easily and well, I usually just rocket them.

shadowkinz wrote...

gotta abuse light melee immunity frames, and slash other things like you would smash i guess. but yeah for plat i dunno xD. my video is on gold


Light melee has immunity frames? last time I tried one on one sword fight with a phantom and I lost miserably

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which difficulty

Modifié par Ankarah, 22 juillet 2012 - 12:34 .


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Mystical_Gaming

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 I just don't like the N7 Slayer at all. I never had so much trouble with a character before. The way the character teleports gets me downed too much. I try to go to cover and instead the character goes through the cover to the other side. Too frustrating for me.

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I would like to note that the N7 SLayer's light melee chained together create a crap ton of invincibility frames, and, when used correctly, makes him almost as invincible as the nova guard. However, sometimes you will crap out and get stunlocked right in the middle (very rarely) or before (occasionally) the invincibility frames.

Modifié par Vault Boy X360, 22 juillet 2012 - 01:49 .