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[Argetfalcon]

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

Modifié par Argetfalcon, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:03 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

Yes indeed. A warrior's death. , you cannot please everybody!

[7he Island Head]

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

It reminded of when Batman dies in the Dark Knight Rises

[D24O]

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

[txgoldrush]

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

[Soultaker08]

Was okay with all deaths in ME3 , i thought there were even more people going to die (miranda/jack/samara deaths were optional)

Its an all out galaxy war!

[D24O]

txgoldrush wrote...
No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

No, Mr. Weekes did an AMA where he admitted they'd dropped th eball a bit on that one. I haven't romanced him, so I don't know exactly how it goes, I just know he said that.

[Bean-shidh]

I think the main issue with Thane in ME3 wasn't his death but how the romance and his dying wasn't acknowledged by other squadmates. I personally was surprised to see him in ME3 at all - thought I would just get a letter or sth saying he's dead. I really liked the dialog and fight with Kai Leng but then it just felt strange when nobody mentioned him (as they did with Mordin, Ash/Kaiden, etc.) throughout the game, especially Garus standing in front of the memorial wall.

[frostajulie]

probablt because the best we get of thane is to bang a sick alien in the hospital and then watch him die in that same hospital. Thanes character like Jacks and Mirandas got completely gimped in ME3 he got an amazing death which I loved even though I romanced him with a couple different sheps but it was like we were punished for choosing him or the VS as a love interest in 3. Garrus and Liara had excellent romance arcs with great interactions.

The rest were significantly lacking and this was surprising in the case of the VS but still we expected more story around our chosen LI and we got gimped.

[txgoldrush]

D24O wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

No, Mr. Weekes did an AMA where he admitted they'd dropped th eball a bit on that one. I haven't romanced him, so I don't know exactly how it goes, I just know he said that.

However, they still close it well......the dialogue as a bit different as a romance option. Nevermind Thane's final letter.

[Soltana]

txgoldrush wrote...

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

[txgoldrush]

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

However, fans still reacted positively to the death scene itself.

Nevermind that Thane died on his own terms, so its less tragic for the crew.

And there is a FINAL email from him.

[D24O]

txgoldrush wrote...

However, they still close it well......the dialogue as a bit different as a romance option. Nevermind Thane's final letter.

IMO his death was a well done, emotional moment. It brought me to tears, and I wasn't his biggest fan. But I can understand why Thanemancers would be mad due tot he lack of any acknowledgment of his death.

[Taboo]

Thanes death was a high point in the game for me.

The line that Kolyat drops after Thane dies....

Foreshadows my ending.

Devastating.

[sUiCiDeKiNgS13]

Thane's death was better than him slowly dying from his disease. Those who romanced him knew he was dying in ME2. My roommate romanced thane and even she said "yeah, this romance couldn't have ended well".Thane died doing something noble and he got a goodbye.

I romanced Jack, so don't complain to me about Thanes lack of LI storyline.

Modifié par sUiCiDeKiNgS13, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:31 .

[WarGriffin]

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

He died fighting in a poorly choregraph/thought out fight against an antagonist who is universally considered a joke. His Death would mean something if Kai was actaully  intelligently written instead of Cerberus' best in name only seeing all the insults he takes.

Yeah great way to go.


His death is also rushed Thane said he could keep up he'd be be in a healthy for combat state for atleast  8-10 months in ME2 while Six months later his at the point of being crippled by it.

His death also practicular ignores clear outs they gave in ME2 for those who wanted him to survive and changes in his character.


Before shepard yes Thane is resigned to his death.
If you romance/do his loyalty mission Thane's attitude torward his death changes... that not all his affairs are in order and Him just surrendering to the diease may not be the way he wishes to go afterall.

Then again this is the same Writing team that Turned Jacob the main of intergrity into Kanye so I'm really not surprised


and yes I know thier official reason was they thought Thane dying anyway was fitting and tragic... Yeah Look you want to pull the We're artistic now we do things differently and becasue they have impact!

Decide to do it in a stand alone game NOT THE CONCLUSION OF A GAME YOUR ****ING BILLING AS ALL YOUR CHOICES COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU!

[RadicalDisconnect]

From what I can observe, Thanemancers are upset that Thane's involvement in ME3 didn't take into account the romance that may occurr in ME2. Thus, BroThane was done alright, but romanced Thane wasn't.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:33 .

[txgoldrush]

Once again...this



He doesn't call you siha unless you romanced him.

Modifié par txgoldrush, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:36 .

[Soltana]

txgoldrush wrote...

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

However, fans still reacted positively to the death scene itself.

Nevermind that Thane died on his own terms, so its less tragic for the crew.

And there is a FINAL email from him.

We're talking from a romance perspective here...
Nevermind that Thane is suddenly so at peace with his death when in his romance scene he explicitly states he's afraid to die. That hardly closes it well. Those few extra lines and e-mail were tacked on as an afterthought. No rational human being can sit there and tell me what they did with Thane was awesome when even one of the writers comes forward and admits it's FUBAR.

As a non-thanemancer, his death fit with my level of investment. But for others, it's totally understandable.

[Joy Sauce]

txgoldrush wrote...

Soltana wrote...


Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

However, fans still reacted positively to the death scene itself.

Nevermind that Thane died on his own terms, so its less tragic for the crew.

And there is a FINAL email from him.

I'd just like to point out that that letter was from LotSB, as opposed to being new content, another reason why Thanemancers were upset by his ME3 treatment.

[txgoldrush]

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

However, fans still reacted positively to the death scene itself.

Nevermind that Thane died on his own terms, so its less tragic for the crew.

And there is a FINAL email from him.

We're talking from a romance perspective here...
Nevermind that Thane is suddenly so at peace with his death when in his romance scene he explicitly states he's afraid to die. That hardly closes it well. Those few extra lines and e-mail were tacked on as an afterthought. No rational human being can sit there and tell me what they did with Thane was awesome when even one of the writers comes forward and admits it's FUBAR.

As a non-thanemancer, his death fit with my level of investment. But for others, it's totally understandable.

However, that was ME2...this is ME3. He is closer to death so his persepctive changes. Its character development.

All Weekes talks about was the reactions with the other crew.

[Soltana]

As I said, no rational human being...

[RadicalDisconnect]

txgoldrush wrote...

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

However, fans still reacted positively to the death scene itself.

Nevermind that Thane died on his own terms, so its less tragic for the crew.

And there is a FINAL email from him.

We're talking from a romance perspective here...
Nevermind that Thane is suddenly so at peace with his death when in his romance scene he explicitly states he's afraid to die. That hardly closes it well. Those few extra lines and e-mail were tacked on as an afterthought. No rational human being can sit there and tell me what they did with Thane was awesome when even one of the writers comes forward and admits it's FUBAR.

As a non-thanemancer, his death fit with my level of investment. But for others, it's totally understandable.

However, that was ME2...this is ME3. He is closer to death so his persepctive changes. Its character development.

All Weekes talks about was the reactions with the other crew.

I normally don't get involved in Thane discussions, I have to speak up.

It's not the problem that his perspective may change. Of course it can. However, it is simply not explored in the game. There is very little content from Thane, and dialogue from romanced Thane from ME2 was disregarded for the most part. That's what the complaint is about. If Thane changed his perspective on life and death in ME3, it's fine, but it shouldn't be just all of a sudden. The game should've done more in the exposition so that it doesn't look like his character took a face-heel turn.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 21 juillet 2012 - 01:46 .

[krasnoarmeets]

Bean-shidh wrote...

I think the main issue with Thane in ME3 wasn't his death but how the romance and his dying wasn't acknowledged by other squadmates. I personally was surprised to see him in ME3 at all - thought I would just get a letter or sth saying he's dead. I really liked the dialog and fight with Kai Leng but then it just felt strange when nobody mentioned him (as they did with Mordin, Ash/Kaiden, etc.) throughout the game, especially Garus standing in front of the memorial wall.

^This^

One of my femsheps romanced Thane in ME2 and continued it in ME3 and was surprised when Kaidan (her ME1 LI) was like 'let's have lunch etc'  Thinking, err, my man just died, wut? Admittedly, it only got to that because she felt bad when Kaidan was in hospital and didn't want to let him down at the time, but he should have reacted to Thane dying in some way, because he did know about him.

Also the fact that your closest bro Garrus never says anything about Thane, your lover, dying is a huge let down. I was stunned. I thought the Thane romance was one of the best - he was such a sweety despite being an assassin.

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 21 juillet 2012 - 10:27 .