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[dreman9999]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

The makeout scene was the only other highlight

The make out scene was terrible!!!

[krasnoarmeets]

dreman9999 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there very little difference (if any) in te actual death scene depending on whether you romance him or not?  I can't remember there being anything different about it.  Seems like a bit of an oversight.

There is a huge difference if you romace him. The comments before and after the prayer are different. And being a female add a "her" to the prayer. Be romance with his adds a sadden look the Shepard when the comment"Were a lover never leaves" pop up in the prayer.

Also he calls you Siha and Shep says something about meeting across the sea after he's died.

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 21 juillet 2012 - 03:41 .

[txmn1016]

dreman9999 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there very little difference (if any) in te actual death scene depending on whether you romance him or not?  I can't remember there being anything different about it.  Seems like a bit of an oversight.

There is a huge difference if you romace him. The comments before and after the prayer are different. And being a female add a "her" to the prayer. Be romance with his adds a sadden look the Shepard when the comment"Were a lover never leaves" pop up in the prayer.

I always play femshep so I always get the "her" part.  

And...okay.  A sad look.  I guess I missed that huge difference.  

[SNAKEATEN]

pirate1802 wrote...

Yes indeed. A warrior's death. , you cannot please everybody!

[dreman9999]

txmn1016 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there very little difference (if any) in te actual death scene depending on whether you romance him or not?  I can't remember there being anything different about it.  Seems like a bit of an oversight.

There is a huge difference if you romace him. The comments before and after the prayer are different. And being a female add a "her" to the prayer. Be romance with his adds a sadden look the Shepard when the comment"Were a lover never leaves" pop up in the prayer.

I always play femshep so I always get the "her" part.  

And...okay.  A sad look.  I guess I missed that huge difference.  

Seriously, Thane death broke the femshep I use to romance him. She has not been more harder and ruthless then in ME3 after Thanes death.

[grey_wind]

NKKKK wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

It reminded of when Batman dies in the Dark Knight Rises

You can go straight to hell.

Thanks a lot assho!e.

[dreman9999]

grey_wind wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

It reminded of when Batman dies in the Dark Knight Rises

You can go straight to hell.

Thanks a lot assho!e.

This is funny because I've seen the movie and knows what happens...... And I'm not telling you what happened.

Modifié par dreman9999, 21 juillet 2012 - 03:58 .

[krasnoarmeets]

7he Island Head keeps trolling this in threads

[grey_wind]

dreman9999 wrote...

grey_wind wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

It reminded of when Batman dies in the Dark Knight Rises

You can go straight to hell.

Thanks a lot assho!e.

This is funny because I've seen the movie and knows what happens...... And I'm not telling you what happened.

Most of the spoilers contradict each other anyway, so I'm not taking this post too seriously.
Your post, however, suddenly makes me feel a lot better after that troll post, dreman9999, for some odd reason. I guess a thank you is in order.

[Ghost]

7he Island Head wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

It reminded of when Batman dies in the Dark Knight Rises

I will find you...

[comrade gando]

I agree thane was doomed to die from the moment the player meets him, he has kepler's syndrome and there is no known cure for it. I didn't romance thane (male shep), but what really irks me is how... useless his death was, not to be antagonistic or anything. what I'm trying to say is how he gave such a beautiful prayer so that the "lost may never be alone", and there is no fruition or impact to it by the time the infamous ending rolls around.

how about thane's spirit helps guide shepard's mind back to reality so he can truly defeat harbinger and the reapers once and for all. we're already dealing with absurd amounts of magic here so why not a little more to attempt to make some semblance of sense out of that rediculous ending.

[WarGriffin]

comrade gando wrote...

I agree thane was doomed to die from the moment the player meets him, he has kepler's syndrome and there is no known cure for it. I didn't romance thane (male shep), but what really irks me is how... useless his death was, not to be antagonistic or anything. what I'm trying to say is how he gave such a beautiful prayer so that the "lost may never be alone", and there is no fruition or impact to it by the time the infamous ending rolls around.

how about thane's spirit helps guide shepard's mind back to reality so he can truly defeat harbinger and the reapers once and for all. we're already dealing with absurd amounts of magic here so why not a little more to attempt to make some semblance of sense out of that rediculous ending.

That would take effort and would mean the Writers have to write something that isn't thier vision!

[Emeraldfern]

dreman9999 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there very little difference (if any) in te actual death scene depending on whether you romance him or not?  I can't remember there being anything different about it.  Seems like a bit of an oversight.

There is a huge difference if you romace him. The comments before and after the prayer are different. And being a female add a "her" to the prayer. Be romance with his adds a sadden look the Shepard when the comment"Were a lover never leaves" pop up in the prayer.

I don't mean to be rude, but that's incorrect; it is the exact same face irregardless of the romance:

Non-romance:

Romance:

The only differences in the death scene are a couple of lines Thane and Shepard say and Shepard's closing words.

--------------------------------
Phrases:
--------------------------------
Non-romance:
--------------------------------

Thane: Commander I'm afraid I won't be joining you again.
Shepard: You've done more than enough, Thane.
Thane: That assassin should be embarassed. A terminally ill drell managed to stop him from reaching his target.
Shepard: I'll pass the word along.

--------------------------------
Romance:
--------------------------------

Thane: Siha, I'm afraid I've picked a bad time to leave
Shepard: You couldn't disappoint me Thane. Not even now.
Thane: Such pleasant things from your lips. Excuse me. Breathing is difficult.
Thane: Siha, It will be soon. I need to know if the councilor survived.

------------------------------------
Shepard's closing words:
------------------------------------
Non-romance:
-------------------------------------

Shepard: Goodbye Thane. You won't be alone long.

-------------------------------
Romance:
--------------------------------

Shepard: Goodbye Thane. Meet you across the sea.

-------------------------------

With that said, I suppose I'll add my own thoughts on this topic then. 
This is probably tl;dr for some, but I honestly can't sum up my thoughts more concisely than this atm:

Like most fans I love Mass Effect 1 and 2. I love the setting, the characters, the lore, the design and the way the gameplay worked. I've played through Mass Effect 1 and 2 many times and I thoroughly enjoyed every single one of my playthroughs.

I can't say the same for the third installment. I didn't finish that playthrough. And I haven't touched ME3 since.
(I watched my brothers full playthrough)

And naturally my imported playthrough into ME3 was the one I after, many playthroughs in ME1 and ME2, considered to be the most engaging and interesting one for me.
The chosen LI and a big part of the reason that playthrough stood above the rest for me, was Thane.

Did I know that Thane had Kepral's Syndrome? Of course I did.

But I also knew the following by the end of Mass Effect 2:

• Thane himself said that the hanar were working on a cure.

• Thane said he was going to be "fine" as in combat-ready for another 8-12 months.

• Kepral's Syndrome occurs because the drell can't adapt to Kahje's humid conditions. It manifests as bacterial infections and causes lesions to the lungs, it is similar to CF in RL.

• Thane confesses "he is afraid of dying" when romanced. I.e. he quit searching for death. The letter from Thane in LoTSB emphasizes on this further.

• Thane was eligible for a lung-transplant. He turned it down before any attempts to romance him.

• Kolyat's fate was either positive/negative depending on the outcome of Thane's Loyalty Mission.

• Shepard shows genuine concern for Thane. And Thane is equally concerned about Shepard.

• Thane is upfront about his past with Irikah.

　

And what happens six months later in Mass Effect 3?
 
When Thane inquires why Shepard is at Huerta, she says she is there to see the VS despite actually getting a message that Thane was at Huerta. Waddya mean I came here to see you Thane? Nah, VS is where it's at bro.

Thane is crippled from Kepral's Syndrome and says "My favorite doctor gave me three months to live. Nine months ago" - Huh, what happened to the timeline?

If Kaidan was previously romanced, Thane inquires wether there is "Something he should know about". Shepard's response is to turn her back to Thane and admit "We were together for awhile before the last Normandy was destroyed" as if she was ashamed of it. Why can't she be upfront about a past lover when Thane was completely upfront about Irikah in Mass Effect 2?

Thane doesn't even mention the lung-transplant. Shepard can't even inquire about it. In fact she can't inquire what treatments are available at all. Which any loved one would do in that situation instead of going "Oh ok, bai Thane".

Thane is suddenly totally chill about dying again. Which again, Shepard can't inquire about. Which to be frank, is extremely odd.

Thane shows very little to no interest in regards to the interstellar warfare going on. Look Siha, I know you are currently burdened with the task of defeating the Reapers but meh, I'm not interested sorry.

What happened to Kolyat? When a romance is carried over, it's not possible to inquire about Kolyat.

Kepral's Syndrome is suddenly effecting the blood's ability to carry oxygen akin to Sickle-Cell in RL. Lol wut? Thats completely different from ME2...what happened?

Oh, "Private Time" what is... O.o what was...did Shepard and Thane just make out in a public place? And what was that sound she made? I just...What's this I don't even...

When the Cerberus coup occurs, Thane intervenes for "awsum ninja-fite" and Shepard stands ildly like an idiot. Really?

Thane is stabbed; "How bad is it?" Oooh! Look, Kai Leng! Ok Thane, thx bai! What the...What in BLUE BLISTERING BARNACLES!

Then Thane is rushed to the hospital, and dies not from the wound itself technically, but from blood-loss.- Wait, if Thane was suffering from something that causes oxygen to not form correctly in his blood, he would need blood transfusions constantly, and the hospital in which he is a resident patient, doesn't have enough drell blood? Wut?
"It seems no one will mourn me when I die" And nobody did. Not even Shepard did. Garrus completely ignores the fact that Thane's name was added to the memorial, in favor of talking about the VS. And any other character that knew Thane doesn't mention him either, Joker, Edi, Chakwas, Tali none. Only Kai Leng mentions Thane again apart from the "That was for Thane you SOB" a phrase that can just as easily say Miranda/Kirrahee instead.
　

And as far as for hoping for a cure is concerned:

The "Cure Thane" group on BSN had a rather large following of both Sihas and Thane-bros.

The "Cure Thane" banner, a collobarative work, was well-recieved by Bioware. In response Bioware launched the "Cure Thane" Facebook event. More than one thousand participated.

As mentioned previously, Thane was eligible for a lung-transplant, whereas it would not cure him, it would extend his life long enough for the conclusion of the ME3 plot, and head-canon fills in the rest regarding cure/death.
Yes, Thane initially turned it down. Keep in mind though that he did this prior to both his loyalty mission and any romance attempt.

The mention of the "Eupolmos Device" dubbed a "medi-gel for the lungs", was mentioned on the Cerberus News. And to whom would that be most interesting? Thanemancers? Nah../sarcasm

And, as also mentioned previously, the hanar were working on adapting the drell. If the ME3 plot centers around how Shepard gains inter-stellar support from the different species/factions against the Reapers, logic follows that the drell/hanar aren't excluded. And what would be the obvious topic for the drell/hanar? Kepral's.

Considering the above, it wasn't more far-fetched to expect a scenario involving a treatment/cure for Kepral's anymore than it was far-fetched to expect a conclusion on the Genophage, the Quarian/Geth conflict, the involvement of the Rachni etc.

I for one, expected some kind of choice in regards to Thane.

And the fact that ME3 touches on none of the already established material with regards to Kepral's in ME2, was to put it mildly, disappointing.

Thane's design and character was written with female fans in mind, to blatantly disregard these fans when writing the sequel is imo, not exactly endearing at all to fans.

So am I happy camper? No. Absolutely not.

I frankly didn't expect for something that was previously written in a mature tone with underlying themes of overcoming one's physical inhibitions, that one deserves life and love irregardless of your past mistakes, to suddenly become incoherent with borderline juvenile behavior on Shepard's behalf.

And in a game where player choice is a pivotal element to both gameplay and story, the fact that it was absent in regards to Thane in ME3 sucked big time.

Just my 2'cs.

*Emeraldfern out*

[Edit] Forgot to mention the lack of response on Thane's death by the other Squadmates/Crew. Fixed format *derp*

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 21 juillet 2012 - 05:15 .

[BeastSaver]

My Shepard was happy to get the e-mail to go see Thane on the Citadel. When she gets there, she can't say she's there for him, not Kaidan. At least she was able to tell Thane that Kaidan was in the past. She can't tell Kaidan that she didn't cheat on him...she moved on! Then, after Thane's death, his sacrifice was only acknowledged by Bailey and Kolyat. Nothing was said by anyone else that he had given his life to save the salarian counselor. Even though Liara had acknowledged the romance in ME2 (LotSB), not a word from her and nothing from Garrus, EDI, Joker...

[Gigerstreak]

I had hoped that Thane would get the transplant and be on the recovery... AND THEN DIE in epic fashion. They did hint strongly that there MIGHT be a way to save him and I thought there would be a way to play it up.

I think there should be SOME way to save him... but that the most heroic would be him choosing to sacrifice what he struggled so hard for to be a hero. That was who he was. Seeing him sacrifice himself didn't impact me as much, since I knew he was going to die anyways. I felt they dropped the ball on making his death have more impact.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I keep seeing balls hit the floor. They sure dropped a lot of them in ME3. They did not endear this one.

[txgoldrush]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Soltana wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

D24O wrote...

IIRC they actually forgot he was a romance option.

No, they didn't...in fact Thanes death closes the romance well.

Nice try

"Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end." - Patrick Weekes

GTFO

However, fans still reacted positively to the death scene itself.

Nevermind that Thane died on his own terms, so its less tragic for the crew.

And there is a FINAL email from him.

Someone shows you evidence that the new ME3 writers GOT IT WRONG after you just insisted that they didn't and your only reply is "well fans liked that he died!"  
 
Your topic is THANE'S ROMANCE yes? Not if he should have died or not and not how the majority took the death scene since most wouldn't have romanced him anyway.  Your topic is in the form of the question so do you actually want to hear the reasons or not? Look you aren't the first person to not romance Thane or care about it and  then make a post why you don't GET what the big deal is. 

You asked "Why are so there so many upset about Thane's romance?"

So people tell you one of the many reasons why the romance sucked .  "The new writers forgot he was a romance" is one of them.

What I find strange is the following that happens (and this happens a lot in Thane topics). The OP pretends to know what the romancer is talking about for some weird reason and insists the reason isn't true "no they didn't!" . Then when proof is shown they change the subject!

If the writers ADMIT they f***ked up (something they rarely do regarding ME3) then the romance can't have been done well...do you understand this? 

Don't defend the romance without doing your homework first or else you'll look silly is all I'm saying.

Oh and The email was copy and pasted from ME2 you also would have known that if you romanced him

No, the writers got wrong on th ecrews reaction, not the romance itself. However due to the situation, Thane did not have long to live and simply put, th ecrew knows the VS far better.

I romanced Thane with one of my Shep, it was fine it had closure, the crew didn't need to comment much. His name is put on the wall, he released the final email closing his story (for real, unlike seeing Shadow Broker files).

Its fans overreacting once again.

[txgoldrush]

Emeraldfern wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

txmn1016 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there very little difference (if any) in te actual death scene depending on whether you romance him or not?  I can't remember there being anything different about it.  Seems like a bit of an oversight.

There is a huge difference if you romace him. The comments before and after the prayer are different. And being a female add a "her" to the prayer. Be romance with his adds a sadden look the Shepard when the comment"Were a lover never leaves" pop up in the prayer.

I don't mean to be rude, but that's incorrect; it is the exact same face irregardless of the romance:

Non-romance:

Romance:

The only differences in the death scene are a couple of lines Thane and Shepard say and Shepard's closing words.

--------------------------------
Phrases:
--------------------------------
Non-romance:
--------------------------------

Thane: Commander I'm afraid I won't be joining you again.
Shepard: You've done more than enough, Thane.
Thane: That assassin should be embarassed. A terminally ill drell managed to stop him from reaching his target.
Shepard: I'll pass the word along.

--------------------------------
Romance:
--------------------------------

Thane: Siha, I'm afraid I've picked a bad time to leave
Shepard: You couldn't disappoint me Thane. Not even now.
Thane: Such pleasant things from your lips. Excuse me. Breathing is difficult.
Thane: Siha, It will be soon. I need to know if the councilor survived.

------------------------------------
Shepard's closing words:
------------------------------------
Non-romance:
-------------------------------------

Shepard: Goodbye Thane. You won't be alone long.

-------------------------------
Romance:
--------------------------------

Shepard: Goodbye Thane. Meet you across the sea.

-------------------------------

With that said, I suppose I'll add my own thoughts on this topic then. 
This is probably tl;dr for some, but I honestly can't sum up my thoughts more concisely than this atm:

Like most fans I love Mass Effect 1 and 2. I love the setting, the characters, the lore, the design and the way the gameplay worked. I've played through Mass Effect 1 and 2 many times and I thoroughly enjoyed every single one of my playthroughs.

I can't say the same for the third installment. I didn't finish that playthrough. And I haven't touched ME3 since.
(I watched my brothers full playthrough)

And naturally my imported playthrough into ME3 was the one I after, many playthroughs in ME1 and ME2, considered to be the most engaging and interesting one for me.
The chosen LI and a big part of the reason that playthrough stood above the rest for me, was Thane.

Did I know that Thane had Kepral's Syndrome? Of course I did.

But I also knew the following by the end of Mass Effect 2:

• Thane himself said that the hanar were working on a cure.

• Thane said he was going to be "fine" as in combat-ready for another 8-12 months.

• Kepral's Syndrome occurs because the drell can't adapt to Kahje's humid conditions. It manifests as bacterial infections and causes lesions to the lungs, it is similar to CF in RL.

• Thane confesses "he is afraid of dying" when romanced. I.e. he quit searching for death. The letter from Thane in LoTSB emphasizes on this further.

• Thane was eligible for a lung-transplant. He turned it down before any attempts to romance him.

• Kolyat's fate was either positive/negative depending on the outcome of Thane's Loyalty Mission.

• Shepard shows genuine concern for Thane. And Thane is equally concerned about Shepard.

• Thane is upfront about his past with Irikah.

　

And what happens six months later in Mass Effect 3?
 
When Thane inquires why Shepard is at Huerta, she says she is there to see the VS despite actually getting a message that Thane was at Huerta. Waddya mean I came here to see you Thane? Nah, VS is where it's at bro.

Thane is crippled from Kepral's Syndrome and says "My favorite doctor gave me three months to live. Nine months ago" - Huh, what happened to the timeline?

If Kaidan was previously romanced, Thane inquires wether there is "Something he should know about". Shepard's response is to turn her back to Thane and admit "We were together for awhile before the last Normandy was destroyed" as if she was ashamed of it. Why can't she be upfront about a past lover when Thane was completely upfront about Irikah in Mass Effect 2?

Thane doesn't even mention the lung-transplant. Shepard can't even inquire about it. In fact she can't inquire what treatments are available at all. Which any loved one would do in that situation instead of going "Oh ok, bai Thane".

Thane is suddenly totally chill about dying again. Which again, Shepard can't inquire about. Which to be frank, is extremely odd.

Thane shows very little to no interest in regards to the interstellar warfare going on. Look Siha, I know you are currently burdened with the task of defeating the Reapers but meh, I'm not interested sorry.

What happened to Kolyat? When a romance is carried over, it's not possible to inquire about Kolyat.

Kepral's Syndrome is suddenly effecting the blood's ability to carry oxygen akin to Sickle-Cell in RL. Lol wut? Thats completely different from ME2...what happened?

Oh, "Private Time" what is... O.o what was...did Shepard and Thane just make out in a public place? And what was that sound she made? I just...What's this I don't even...

When the Cerberus coup occurs, Thane intervenes for "awsum ninja-fite" and Shepard stands ildly like an idiot. Really?

Thane is stabbed; "How bad is it?" Oooh! Look, Kai Leng! Ok Thane, thx bai! What the...What in BLUE BLISTERING BARNACLES!

Then Thane is rushed to the hospital, and dies not from the wound itself technically, but from blood-loss.- Wait, if Thane was suffering from something that causes oxygen to not form correctly in his blood, he would need blood transfusions constantly, and the hospital in which he is a resident patient, doesn't have enough drell blood? Wut?
"It seems no one will mourn me when I die" And nobody did. Not even Shepard did. Garrus completely ignores the fact that Thane's name was added to the memorial, in favor of talking about the VS. And any other character that knew Thane doesn't mention him either, Joker, Edi, Chakwas, Tali none. Only Kai Leng mentions Thane again apart from the "That was for Thane you SOB" a phrase that can just as easily say Miranda/Kirrahee instead.
　

And as far as for hoping for a cure is concerned:

The "Cure Thane" group on BSN had a rather large following of both Sihas and Thane-bros.

The "Cure Thane" banner, a collobarative work, was well-recieved by Bioware. In response Bioware launched the "Cure Thane" Facebook event. More than one thousand participated.

As mentioned previously, Thane was eligible for a lung-transplant, whereas it would not cure him, it would extend his life long enough for the conclusion of the ME3 plot, and head-canon fills in the rest regarding cure/death.
Yes, Thane initially turned it down. Keep in mind though that he did this prior to both his loyalty mission and any romance attempt.

The mention of the "Eupolmos Device" dubbed a "medi-gel for the lungs", was mentioned on the Cerberus News. And to whom would that be most interesting? Thanemancers? Nah../sarcasm

And, as also mentioned previously, the hanar were working on adapting the drell. If the ME3 plot centers around how Shepard gains inter-stellar support from the different species/factions against the Reapers, logic follows that the drell/hanar aren't excluded. And what would be the obvious topic for the drell/hanar? Kepral's.

Considering the above, it wasn't more far-fetched to expect a scenario involving a treatment/cure for Kepral's anymore than it was far-fetched to expect a conclusion on the Genophage, the Quarian/Geth conflict, the involvement of the Rachni etc.

I for one, expected some kind of choice in regards to Thane.

And the fact that ME3 touches on none of the already established material with regards to Kepral's in ME2, was to put it mildly, disappointing.

Thane's design and character was written with female fans in mind, to blatantly disregard these fans when writing the sequel is imo, not exactly endearing at all to fans.

So am I happy camper? No. Absolutely not.

I frankly didn't expect for something that was previously written in a mature tone with underlying themes of overcoming one's physical inhibitions, that one deserves life and love irregardless of your past mistakes, to suddenly become incoherent with borderline juvenile behavior on Shepard's behalf.

And in a game where player choice is a pivotal element to both gameplay and story, the fact that it was absent in regards to Thane in ME3 sucked big time.

Just my 2'cs.

*Emeraldfern out*

[Edit] Forgot to mention the lack of response on Thane's death by the other Squadmates/Crew. Fixed format *derp*

Wow....whiney whiney, nevermind the fact that Thane gave his life to save the Councilor.....I wonder what Shep and his crew are doing, I know, protecting the councilor. Please your problem is Thane isn't cured and you just don't like it...boo hoo, get over it.
[*]And please....."siha" obviously has a romantic connotation as is "meet you across the sea".

Modifié par txgoldrush, 21 juillet 2012 - 05:40 .

[Emeraldfern]

txgoldrush wrote...


Wow....whiney whiney, nevermind the fact that Thane gave his life to save the Councilor.....I wonder what Shep and his crew are doing, I know, protecting the councilor. Please your problem is Thane isn't cured and you just don't like it...boo hoo, get over it.



And please....."siha" obviously has a romantic connotation as is "meet you across the sea".

Oh my...

I merely pointed out the differences in a non-romance vs romance death scene.
I didn't say that they were exactly the same. Nor did I say that "Siha"or "Meet you across the sea" didn't have any romantic connotation.


And frankly there is more to my discontent than just Thane's death. And like I said they are my own thoughts on the matter. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me at all.

[Edit] Spell phail

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 21 juillet 2012 - 05:57 .

[firel]

Because there WAS a way to extend his life (Game says he's a viable transplant candidate), and Bioware teased about medigel for the lungs AND the Hanar were already working on a cure. Given what a romanced Thane says in ME2, there's no reason why he didn't go get a transplant. He has Femshep and his son to continue living for.
They could have easily made it so that the Hanar finished the cure too. But no, since he's a male Femshep exclusive LI they had to scrap him leaving us with only 2 straight options while Mshep gets 7.

Because who gives a crap about female players, right?

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Your kidding right. It was barley anything. You just make out and....sit in a hospital louge chair.The death scene is fine but everything involving romance before that sucks.

The makeout scene was the only other highlight

The make out scene was terrible!!!

The animation was completely lifted off the Jack/MShep makeout scene, which is why it looked so out of character/place.

Modifié par firel, 21 juillet 2012 - 05:53 .

[CheeseEnchilada]

When Mordin dies, Garrus and Joker have a lovely dialog reminiscing about him and mourning their loss.

When Thane dies, regardless of LI status, Garrus will stand in front of the memorial wall and talk about the VS, and whoever was sacrificed on Virmire. There is no mention of the name that was just put up on the wall, and it's a little jarring to hear him lament how "you almost had to put down a friend" when Shepard's lover could have just died not five minutes ago. There is no mention of Thane until the renegade interrupt with Leng, and we have the comment from Weekes on how the ball was dropped.

That's where the complaints come in. YMMV on whether there should have been a cure for Thane or not, but the aftermath seemed sloppy. There is no Paramour achievement, no mention him from either Shepard or the crew, and it feels as though his romance was dropped much like Jacob's was. Bro!Thane is awesome. Romanced!Thane...not so much.

[Xeyska]

Problem is Thane's so called "romance" is not one. It doesn't exist in ME3.

firel wrote...

The animation was completely lifted off the Jack/MShep makeout scene, which is why it looked so out of character/place.

Ok, now I have to see this.

Jack/MaleShep kiss.
Thane/FemShep kiss.

Yep, it's a straight rip off.

Modifié par Xeyska, 21 juillet 2012 - 07:30 .

[LanceSolous13]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

From what I can observe, Thanemancers are upset that Thane's involvement in ME3 didn't take into account the romance that may occurr in ME2. Thus, BroThane was done alright, but romanced Thane wasn't.

I completely disagree here.

I play a Bro!Shepard. Thane was my bro in ME2. Once I recruited him, Kasumi left my squad and Miranda and Thane was my team.

What was wrong was that his change in attatude about his death after his Loyalty Mission (and romance) are forgotten as well as the cure brought up in ME2. His illness is completely unexplored.

The issue is that his development is entirely ignored. Oh, and Generic-Villan-Cutscene-Incompetence-Inducing-SOB Kai Leng and his poorly corigraphed fight scene. THANE, Y U CHARGE AT MELEE OPPONENT IF YOU HAVE PISTOL?!SHEPARD, Y U NO HELP BRO?!

Now, does that mean that his curent death can't exist? No. If you like it, that's fine. But, I see no reason to not have a second outcome of the situation where Thane survives.

[Paradox6006]

7he Island Head wrote...

Argetfalcon wrote...

 People I liked Thane also but it was made perfectly clear in ME2 that he was dying. If you thought he was gonna have a bigger role you were kidding yourself. And frankly I find it more appealing that he died fighting. There are many issues with ME3 but this shouldn't be one of them.

It reminded of when Batman dies in the Dark Knight Rises

Thx for ruining the movie ****

[grey_wind]

Xeyska wrote...


Problem is Thane's so called "romance" is not one. It doesn't exist in ME3.

firel wrote...

The animation was completely lifted off the Jack/MShep makeout scene, which is why it looked so out of character/place.

Ok, now I have to see this.

Jack/MaleShep kiss.
Thane/FemShep kiss.

Yep, it's a straight off rip.

GOOD GOD!!!


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