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[_Heather_Shepard_]

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

[dreman9999]

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

[_Heather_Shepard_]

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

It is for us who ROMANCED him.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Didn't mind him dying, I think they did a good job with that. Disliked the hospital make out scene and he needed more content. Ture, Jacob was worse. But then most of the ME2 romances (Jack, Miranda, Thane and ummm Jacob) got shafted.

How did Miranda get the shaft? I can understand why people feel that with Jack,Thane and Jacob.(The one barly anyone romaced). But why do people feel that way with Miranda?

-Literally half of her character was abandoned in ME3.

-Her romance continuation is cheap as sh*t.

-Her "badass-ness" that she had in ME2 is almost gone completely in ME3, save for the e-mail on Liara's terminal.

-She has quantity among the shafted characters, but not quality.

-She does and says literally nothing about Cerberus in ME3, despite her former employment with them.

-Sanctuary is just a rehash her loyalty mission from ME2, except she isn't present with Shepard during most of the gameplay.

-She has NO reason to NOT join you, nor does Shepard have NO reason to NOT invite her to the team.

1. No it was not.
2.Ha, no it wasn't.
3.
No it was not. replay the sactuary mission and let her tell you what happen when she met the cerberus agents.
4.If this was about her not bein gon the ship...Ge tover it.
5........Oh, my god ...The way you warped things. It 'sbad that the one thing she is looking for in on sactury?

First off, if you're going to reply to a list-style post, do it point-by-point. I had to read and re-read my own post 3 or 4 times to figure out what the hell you were responding to.

Her association with Cerberus, the other half of her character, is compeltely forgotten about. She mentions them all of ONE time during the entirety of the game, and it's just a passing mention of TIM. She doesn't say anything about them, she doesn't give you her opinion on them now that TIM went batsh*t insane, and with the exception of Liara's email, she does nothing to stop them or hinder them. She has no meaningful presence in the entire game with the exception of Sanctuary.

Her romance continuation isn't cheap? You'll have to explain this one to me, because with the exception of the 3rd conversation, it's horrifically cheap.

She didn't do anything to any Cerberus agents. All she did was fight Kai Leng... And lose. Never mind that it's all completely meaningless anyway, seeing how Sanctuary plays out 100% the same even if Miranda isn't present.

It's not a bad thing that she's looking out for Oriana, it's a bad thing that Oriana comes at the expense of literally everything else.

[Iakus]

 I'm one of those who thinks that Thane had a great death, but his romance was definitely an afterthought.

[krasnoarmeets]

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 21 juillet 2012 - 11:19 .

[F4H bandicoot]

Drewman is just arguing for the sake of it now.

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Didn't mind him dying, I think they did a good job with that. Disliked the hospital make out scene and he needed more content. Ture, Jacob was worse. But then most of the ME2 romances (Jack, Miranda, Thane and ummm Jacob) got shafted.

How did Miranda get the shaft? I can understand why people feel that with Jack,Thane and Jacob.(The one barly anyone romaced). But why do people feel that way with Miranda?

-Literally half of her character was abandoned in ME3.

-Her romance continuation is cheap as sh*t.

-Her "badass-ness" that she had in ME2 is almost gone completely in ME3, save for the e-mail on Liara's terminal.

-She has quantity among the shafted characters, but not quality.

-She does and says literally nothing about Cerberus in ME3, despite her former employment with them.

-Sanctuary is just a rehash her loyalty mission from ME2, except she isn't present with Shepard during most of the gameplay.

-She has NO reason to NOT join you, nor does Shepard have NO reason to NOT invite her to the team.

1. No it was not.
2.Ha, no it wasn't.
3.
No it was not. replay the sactuary mission and let her tell you what happen when she met the cerberus agents.
4.If this was about her not bein gon the ship...Ge tover it.
5........Oh, my god ...The way you warped things. It 'sbad that the one thing she is looking for in on sactury?

First off, if you're going to reply to a list-style post, do it point-by-point. I had to read and re-read my own post 3 or 4 times to figure out what the hell you were responding to.

Her association with Cerberus, the other half of her character, is compeltely forgotten about. She mentions them all of ONE time during the entirety of the game, and it's just a passing mention of TIM. She doesn't say anything about them, she doesn't give you her opinion on them now that TIM went batsh*t insane, and with the exception of Liara's email, she does nothing to stop them or hinder them. She has no meaningful presence in the entire game with the exception of Sanctuary.

Her romance continuation isn't cheap? You'll have to explain this one to me, because with the exception of the 3rd conversation, it's horrifically cheap.

She didn't do anything to any Cerberus agents. All she did was fight Kai Leng... And lose. Never mind that it's all completely meaningless anyway, seeing how Sanctuary plays out 100% the same even if Miranda isn't present.

It's not a bad thing that she's looking out for Oriana, it's a bad thing that Oriana comes at the expense of literally everything else.

Her assoiciation with cerberus is not forgotten. Hell, she says time and time agient she is hiding from them and killed many of their agents.
 And we know her opinion of them, her quiting cerberus is her opinion of them.
And no,her romance is not cheap. It that  not every conversation is about it. That doesn't make it cheap.
And yes she did fight cerberus agents. She fought them before he cerberus attack, during the cerberus attack, the time she was find sacturay, and getting into saturay. The only fight you saw with her fighting a cerberus agent was with Kai Lang.
Also, Miranda character is center in Oriana. 

[andy6915]

krasnoarmeets wrote...
Err, you can complete Arrival prior to completing the suicide mission and the difference at the end is shown in the Harby hologram you get to talk to, if prior he'll be in collector honcho form, otherwise a giant cuttlefish, so no that being said it doesn't fit in and you can't just wave that timeline away. There should be no canon other than the choices we make through Shepard and actually if you start a game straight from ME3 then Shepard didn't even play a part in the Arrival fiasco. So, no, if the timeline is supposed to be more than 6 months after the suicide mission then what the hell happened in between? This brings me to another irritating point in ME3 speaking of this retarded 6 month interlude. If you didn't play any part in Arrival, Anderson says in response to the 'Is that why they locked me up, took away my ship?' something along the lines of 'with the **** you pulled it's a wonder they didn't lock you up and throw away the key.' Exactly what **** was that? Saving millions of colonists from the collector threat? I was like, wut? 

Jacob romance - shafted. One of my femsheps, my vanguard, Nena, started with Kaidan in ME1, hooked up with Jacob after Kaidan turned his back on her in ME2... then come ME3, she was told by him to her face that he met Bryn 9 months ago. WTF? Dirty little bastard was diddling around with her before Shep was incarcerated? This guy was all about loyalty in ME2... can I please have an opportunity for a renegade response here that involves shooting them both in the face?

Jack romance - my male vanguard, Samir romanced her. She was such a tricky one in ME2. Sure she was easy to sleep with, but not to romance, yet in ME3 there was barely any interaction. At the end of the game just prior to the Hammer operation when you can contact all the squaddies, Jack's comm could have been better to put it mildly. The lack of difference in the romance/non-romance interaction is insulting. As is the rest of the Jack interaction in ME3.

Thane romance - totally shafted. Death ignored by squadmates, dialogue, interaction and animations ignored by Bioware. He may as well have been a cardboard cutout in ME3. No chance of a cure at all? Wut? After all that crap in LotSB?

True, you can complete it at any time, but it still "officially" takes places 6 months after. My source is-

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

ME2 started and ended (suicide mission) 2185, and Arrival was in 2186. Cerberus Daily News is your evidence:Recall that 2010 was 2185 and 2011 was 2186. Considering that the CDN returned a week prior to Arrival, you can only assume the DLC took place in the year 2186, which has to be post-suicide mission.


Granted, I can't find a source on my "6 months" figure. I looked all over before this post, and found no source for that number.

Modifié par andy69156915, 21 juillet 2012 - 11:26 .

[_Heather_Shepard_]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

"....my favorite doctor game me 3 months to live 9 months ago."

There was still hope for Thane.

[RShara]

During ME3, Tali mentions that she was shot on the Citadel exactly 3 years ago. That sets the parameters of your timeline, which is btw, included in my post a couple pages back.

[RShara]

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

No idea. He shouldn't get one.

No one is asking for a magic cure.

Choose your own Adventure time!

1. You're dying of lung cancer.

Your girl/boyfriend comes up and says, "Good news! You're eligible for
a lung transplant that will extend your life by xxxx amount of time!"
What you you say?
A. No Thanks
B. HELL YEAH
C. Trans..plant...? What is this magic you speak of?

2. You're standing in a dark alley. Your boyfriend is in a huge fight 
with a guy wielding a sword. Your boyfriend has a gun. You also have a
gun. You are a trained soldier. You also have nifty distance
abilities. What do you do?
A. Get the **** outta there!
B. Stand around and pick your nose.
C. Get in there and shoot his ass till it stops moving.

3. Your lover is on his/her deathbed. He/She treats you like a friend as he/she dies. You:
A. Sing a happy song.
B. Stare stonily and then forget it ever happened.
C. Hit on the next movable object you see.
D. Both B and C.

Modifié par RShara, 21 juillet 2012 - 11:31 .

[dreman9999]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

BW didn't give any false hope. The fans took what ever thing that can heal Thane disorger and thought it was hope while all along Thane was saying he was dieing. I'm sorry but you guys deluted yourselves.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

Her assoiciation with cerberus is not forgotten. Hell, she says time and time agient she is hiding from them and killed many of their agents.

She literally never once says that she's killed any of their agents. Go and find a youtube video where she DOES say it, and I'll concede my point. She says 1 (one) time that she's on the run from assassins. 

And we know her opinion of them, her quiting cerberus is her opinion of them.

You're trying to be an idiot, aren't you?

And no,her romance is not cheap. It that  not every conversation is about it. That doesn't make it cheap.

You didn't read my post, did you?

And yes she did fight cerberus agents. She fought them before he cerberus attack, during the cerberus attack, the time she was find sacturay, and getting into saturay. The only fight you saw with her fighting a cerberus agent was with Kai Lang.

Literally the only person we see her fight, or that she mentions fighting is Kai Leng. So...

Also, Miranda character is center in Oriana. 

Not sure if troll or idiot. I dare you to go to the Miranda thread and repeat your post.

[dreman9999]

RShara wrote...

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

No idea. He shouldn't get one.

No one is asking for a magic cure.

Choose your own Adventure time!

1. You're dying of lung cancer.

Your girl/boyfriend comes up and says, "Good news! You're eligible for
a lung transplant that will extend your life by xxxx amount of time!"
What you you say?
A. No Thanks
B. HELL YEAH
C. Trans..plant...? What is this magic you speak of?

2. You're standing in a dark alley. Your boyfriend is in a huge fight 
with a guy wielding a sword. Your boyfriend has a gun. You also have a
gun. You are a trained soldier. You also have nifty distance
abilities. What do you do?
A. Get the **** outta there!
B. Stand around and pick your nose.
C. Get in there and shoot his ass till it stops moving.

3. Your lover is on his/her deathbed. He/She treats you like a friend as he/she dies. You:
A. Sing a happy song.
B. Stare stonily and then forget it ever happened.
C. Hit on the next movable object you see.
D. Both B and C.

Your not getting it. In thanes case it was too late for the lung transplaint. Have a cure for him at this point would be a magic cure.

[_Heather_Shepard_]

dreman9999 wrote...

RShara wrote...

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

No idea. He shouldn't get one.

No one is asking for a magic cure.

Choose your own Adventure time!

1. You're dying of lung cancer.

Your girl/boyfriend comes up and says, "Good news! You're eligible for
a lung transplant that will extend your life by xxxx amount of time!"
What you you say?
A. No Thanks
B. HELL YEAH
C. Trans..plant...? What is this magic you speak of?

2. You're standing in a dark alley. Your boyfriend is in a huge fight 
with a guy wielding a sword. Your boyfriend has a gun. You also have a
gun. You are a trained soldier. You also have nifty distance
abilities. What do you do?
A. Get the **** outta there!
B. Stand around and pick your nose.
C. Get in there and shoot his ass till it stops moving.

3. Your lover is on his/her deathbed. He/She treats you like a friend as he/she dies. You:
A. Sing a happy song.
B. Stare stonily and then forget it ever happened.
C. Hit on the next movable object you see.
D. Both B and C.

Your not getting it. In thanes case it was too late for the lung transplaint. Have a cure for him at this point would be a magic cure.

As I said in my previous post, there was still hope for Thane. I don't know where the hell you get the "magic cure" part from. 

"....my favorite doctor game me 3 months to live 9 months ago."

There was still hope for Thane.

[F4H bandicoot]

You are going by your regulations from your country. this is in alnost 2 centuries time, and with other species, knowledge of transplanting will have been greatly increased.

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Her assoiciation with cerberus is not forgotten. Hell, she says time and time agient she is hiding from them and killed many of their agents.

She literally never once says that she's killed any of their agents. Go and find a youtube video where she DOES say it, and I'll concede my point. She says 1 (one) time that she's on the run from assassins. 

And we know her opinion of them, her quiting cerberus is her opinion of them.

You're trying to be an idiot, aren't you?

And no,her romance is not cheap. It that  not every conversation is about it. That doesn't make it cheap.

You didn't read my post, did you?

And yes she did fight cerberus agents. She fought them before he cerberus attack, during the cerberus attack, the time she was find sacturay, and getting into saturay. The only fight you saw with her fighting a cerberus agent was with Kai Lang.

Literally the only person we see her fight, or that she mentions fighting is Kai Leng. So...

Also, Miranda character is center in Oriana. 

Not sure if troll or idiot. I dare you to go to the Miranda thread and repeat your post.

1.

Note that this was before the cerberus attack.
2. No, that is what Miranda chracter is like. She is a type of people who focuses on solving the problem not over anylizing it. A woman of action. Her quiting is all that needed.
3.She stated she fought Cerberus Agents before.
4.But it is true. Your saying that Miranda whould not do anything for her sister?

[krasnoarmeets]

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

BW didn't give any false hope. The fans took what ever thing that can heal Thane disorger and thought it was hope while all along Thane was saying he was dieing. I'm sorry but you guys deluted yourselves.

It's not the lack of a cure I'm talking about - it's the complete disregard for past content, relevant information, Thane's character in ME3 in general. How about an in game why not? As I said earlier they may as well have subbed him with a cardboard cut-out.

[dreman9999]

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

RShara wrote...

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

No idea. He shouldn't get one.

No one is asking for a magic cure.

Choose your own Adventure time!

1. You're dying of lung cancer.

Your girl/boyfriend comes up and says, "Good news! You're eligible for
a lung transplant that will extend your life by xxxx amount of time!"
What you you say?
A. No Thanks
B. HELL YEAH
C. Trans..plant...? What is this magic you speak of?

2. You're standing in a dark alley. Your boyfriend is in a huge fight 
with a guy wielding a sword. Your boyfriend has a gun. You also have a
gun. You are a trained soldier. You also have nifty distance
abilities. What do you do?
A. Get the **** outta there!
B. Stand around and pick your nose.
C. Get in there and shoot his ass till it stops moving.

3. Your lover is on his/her deathbed. He/She treats you like a friend as he/she dies. You:
A. Sing a happy song.
B. Stare stonily and then forget it ever happened.
C. Hit on the next movable object you see.
D. Both B and C.

Your not getting it. In thanes case it was too late for the lung transplaint. Have a cure for him at this point would be a magic cure.

As I said in my previous post, there was still hope for Thane. I don't know where the hell you get the "magic cure" part from. 

"....my favorite doctor game me 3 months to live 9 months ago."

There was still hope for Thane.

That was not hope. That was you seeing hope where it was not. The moment Thane decline any transplant end any hope.
And posting some where he is told he would die is not showing there was hope of him living. It just means he lived longer then he or any one expected.

[_Heather_Shepard_]

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

RShara wrote...

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

No idea. He shouldn't get one.

No one is asking for a magic cure.

Choose your own Adventure time!

1. You're dying of lung cancer.

Your girl/boyfriend comes up and says, "Good news! You're eligible for
a lung transplant that will extend your life by xxxx amount of time!"
What you you say?
A. No Thanks
B. HELL YEAH
C. Trans..plant...? What is this magic you speak of?

2. You're standing in a dark alley. Your boyfriend is in a huge fight 
with a guy wielding a sword. Your boyfriend has a gun. You also have a
gun. You are a trained soldier. You also have nifty distance
abilities. What do you do?
A. Get the **** outta there!
B. Stand around and pick your nose.
C. Get in there and shoot his ass till it stops moving.

3. Your lover is on his/her deathbed. He/She treats you like a friend as he/she dies. You:
A. Sing a happy song.
B. Stare stonily and then forget it ever happened.
C. Hit on the next movable object you see.
D. Both B and C.

Your not getting it. In thanes case it was too late for the lung transplaint. Have a cure for him at this point would be a magic cure.

As I said in my previous post, there was still hope for Thane. I don't know where the hell you get the "magic cure" part from. 

"....my favorite doctor game me 3 months to live 9 months ago."

There was still hope for Thane.

That was not hope. That was you seeing hope where it was not. The moment Thane decline any transplant end any hope.
And posting some where he is told he would die is not showing there was hope of him living. It just means he lived longer then he or any one expected.

Once again, there was hope.

[dreman9999]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

BW didn't give any false hope. The fans took what ever thing that can heal Thane disorger and thought it was hope while all along Thane was saying he was dieing. I'm sorry but you guys deluted yourselves.

It's not the lack of a cure I'm talking about - it's the complete disregard for past content, relevant information, Thane's character in ME3 in general. How about an in game why not? As I said earlier they may as well have subbed him with a cardboard cut-out.

Disregard?
Thane was offered a transplaint and declinded it. When he wanted to live again, it was too late for the transplant.
The Hanar are working for a cure, but  will finish it long after thane is dead. 

There is not disregard of anything. You just took some info and warped it into hope on your own.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

1.

And just like I knew beforehand, she doesn't say she killed anybody.

2. No, that is what Miranda chracter is like. She is a type of people who focuses on solving the problem not over anylizing it. A woman of action. Her quiting is all that needed.

This neither addresses my post nor gives any indication of her opinion on ME3-era Cerberus. Are you stupid or intentionally obtuse?

3.She stated she fought Cerberus Agents before.

"I'm on the run. Cerberus has sent assassins after me. A lot of them. I need to stay hidden."

apart from that, she never even makes mention of other Cerberus agents, aside from Kai Leng.

4.But it is true. Your saying that Miranda whould not do anything for her sister?

You're really trying to get me to insult your intelligence, aren't you?