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[dreman9999]

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

RShara wrote...

jreezy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

No idea. He shouldn't get one.

No one is asking for a magic cure.

Choose your own Adventure time!

1. You're dying of lung cancer.

Your girl/boyfriend comes up and says, "Good news! You're eligible for
a lung transplant that will extend your life by xxxx amount of time!"
What you you say?
A. No Thanks
B. HELL YEAH
C. Trans..plant...? What is this magic you speak of?

2. You're standing in a dark alley. Your boyfriend is in a huge fight 
with a guy wielding a sword. Your boyfriend has a gun. You also have a
gun. You are a trained soldier. You also have nifty distance
abilities. What do you do?
A. Get the **** outta there!
B. Stand around and pick your nose.
C. Get in there and shoot his ass till it stops moving.

3. Your lover is on his/her deathbed. He/She treats you like a friend as he/she dies. You:
A. Sing a happy song.
B. Stare stonily and then forget it ever happened.
C. Hit on the next movable object you see.
D. Both B and C.

Your not getting it. In thanes case it was too late for the lung transplaint. Have a cure for him at this point would be a magic cure.

As I said in my previous post, there was still hope for Thane. I don't know where the hell you get the "magic cure" part from. 

"....my favorite doctor game me 3 months to live 9 months ago."

There was still hope for Thane.

That was not hope. That was you seeing hope where it was not. The moment Thane decline any transplant end any hope.
And posting some where he is told he would die is not showing there was hope of him living. It just means he lived longer then he or any one expected.

Once again, there was hope.

That not hope. Realy...
You got that there's still hope out of that?

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1.

And just like I knew beforehand, she doesn't say she killed anybody.

2. No, that is what Miranda chracter is like. She is a type of people who focuses on solving the problem not over anylizing it. A woman of action. Her quiting is all that needed.

This neither addresses my post nor gives any indication of her opinion on ME3-era Cerberus. Are you stupid or intentionally obtuse?

3.She stated she fought Cerberus Agents before.

"I'm on the run. Cerberus has sent assassins after me. A lot of them. I need to stay hidden."

apart from that, she never even makes mention of other Cerberus agents, aside from Kai Leng.

4.But it is true. Your saying that Miranda whould not do anything for her sister?

You're really trying to get me to insult your intelligence, aren't you?

1. You think she is going to. You and I both know Miranda. If she is put in a possition of mortal conflict, She will kill with no worry.
2.My point is she is not going to verbuly give a comment. She will only give an action.
3.That still mean she kill cerberus agents. She not hunting them, she's just killing the ones who find her. Really , she is not helpless.
4.I'll ask again....
Your saying that Miranda whould not do anything for her sister?  And don't start with" She more than that " comments because her issues is what motivates her to be this involved with her sister life. Her is issues is why her sister is the center of her character.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

1. You think she is going to. You and I both know Miranda. If she is put in a possition of mortal conflict, She will kill with no worry.

Sure.

Except here it's off screen and there is literally NO indication of ANYTHING. 

2.My point is she is not going to verbuly give a comment. She will only give an action.

I don't need to tell you how stupid this makes you look, do I? There's quite a number of times in ME2 where she vocalizes her opinion on things.

3.That still mean she kill cerberus agents. She not hunting them, she's just killing the ones who find her. Really , she is not helpless.

She says she is on the run. She doesn't even imply that she killed anybody.

4.I'll ask again....
Your saying that Miranda whould not do anything for her sister?  And don't start with" She more than that " comments because her issues is what motivates her to be this involved with her sister life. Her is issues is why her sister is the center of her character.

Oriana is not her sole motivator. You've never actually spoken to Miranda in ME2 or 3, have you?

[RShara]

The end of ME2 was not too late for a lung transplant. Shepard should have been able to bring it up and offer it when she finds out (end of LotSB, before Arrival). Instead, it's completely ignored.

Thane already wants to live again before the suicide mission. You can play LotSB at any time. Therefore it is NOT TOO LATE for a transplant no matter how you look at it.

[AresKeith]

RShara wrote...

The end of ME2 was not too late for a lung transplant. Shepard should have been able to bring it up and offer it when she finds out (end of LotSB, before Arrival). Instead, it's completely ignored.

Thane already wants to live again before the suicide mission. You can play LotSB at any time. Therefore it is NOT TOO LATE for a transplant no matter how you look at it.

then you have 6 months before ME3 where Thane would know about it and get lung transplant, once again Bioware chose to ignore something good

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. You think she is going to. You and I both know Miranda. If she is put in a possition of mortal conflict, She will kill with no worry.

Sure.

Except here it's off screen and there is literally NO indication of ANYTHING. 

2.My point is she is not going to verbuly give a comment. She will only give an action.

I don't need to tell you how stupid this makes you look, do I? There's quite a number of times in ME2 where she vocalizes her opinion on things.

3.That still mean she kill cerberus agents. She not hunting them, she's just killing the ones who find her. Really , she is not helpless.

She says she is on the run. She doesn't even imply that she killed anybody.

4.I'll ask again....
Your saying that Miranda whould not do anything for her sister?  And don't start with" She more than that " comments because her issues is what motivates her to be this involved with her sister life. Her is issues is why her sister is the center of her character.

Oriana is not her sole motivator. You've never actually spoken to Miranda in ME2 or 3, have you?

1.So now your complining that its off screen? As I said before, your issue is not Miranda being short sold, it's that she doesn't have that much face time.
2.And at those time it was an issue of the mission at hand. The one time she doesn't focus on just the mission in hand in a conversation is when she tries to get Shepard to understand her. Other then that she is focus on solving the problem.
3.This is cerberus. She had to kill someone. Espianoge is cerberus main strenght. It would be an issue of it being off screen.
4.I didn't say she was her sole motivator. I said she is the center of her character. Her motavator is her issues of control. Her sister is the center of her character because she put such a high value on her. Maranda's motivation make her sister the center of her character.

[RShara]

AresKeith wrote...

RShara wrote...

The end of ME2 was not too late for a lung transplant. Shepard should have been able to bring it up and offer it when she finds out (end of LotSB, before Arrival). Instead, it's completely ignored.

Thane already wants to live again before the suicide mission. You can play LotSB at any time. Therefore it is NOT TOO LATE for a transplant no matter how you look at it.

then you have 6 months before ME3 where Thane would know about it and get lung transplant, once again Bioware chose to ignore something good

Exactly.  What lover in their right mind would completely ignore an option to give their loved one more time as soon as it's presented?

[krasnoarmeets]

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

BW didn't give any false hope. The fans took what ever thing that can heal Thane disorger and thought it was hope while all along Thane was saying he was dieing. I'm sorry but you guys deluted yourselves.

It's not the lack of a cure I'm talking about - it's the complete disregard for past content, relevant information, Thane's character in ME3 in general. How about an in game why not? As I said earlier they may as well have subbed him with a cardboard cut-out.

Disregard?
Thane was offered a transplaint and declinded it. When he wanted to live again, it was too late for the transplant.
The Hanar are working for a cure, but  will finish it long after thane is dead. 

There is not disregard of anything. You just took some info and warped it into hope on your own.

I understand that English is not your first language, so I'm going to cut you some slack here for that point. Perhaps you just read people's statements selectively. Let me make it very clear for you:

I'm okay with Thane dying. This is acceptable. He was terminally ill. The validity of your statement regarding the viability of a transplant 174 years in the future is debatable, but that is not my point. The mere fact that cure leads were mentioned in past content and then completely ignored in ME3 dialogue with Thane himself is.
I'm not asking for more space magic, we got enough of that at the end of ME3. What I want is for Thane's dialogue to be fleshed out with more believable dialogue pertaining to the romance and pertaining to how his renewed search for a cure evaporated.

[dreman9999]

RShara wrote...

The end of ME2 was not too late for a lung transplant. Shepard should have been able to bring it up and offer it when she finds out (end of LotSB, before Arrival). Instead, it's completely ignored.

Thane already wants to live again before the suicide mission. You can play LotSB at any time. Therefore it is NOT TOO LATE for a transplant no matter how you look at it.

1.Thane was not expecting to live long after the suicide mission. He felt,in ME2 he had a few moths to live. A doctor would not do a surgury of any patient that is diegnoised to die in a few months. It was too late.
2. That letter was made around the same time he talked to you about being afrade of dieing.

[AresKeith]

RShara wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

RShara wrote...

The end of ME2 was not too late for a lung transplant. Shepard should have been able to bring it up and offer it when she finds out (end of LotSB, before Arrival). Instead, it's completely ignored.

Thane already wants to live again before the suicide mission. You can play LotSB at any time. Therefore it is NOT TOO LATE for a transplant no matter how you look at it.

then you have 6 months before ME3 where Thane would know about it and get lung transplant, once again Bioware chose to ignore something good

Exactly.  What lover in their right mind would completely ignore an option to give their loved one more time as soon as it's presented?

Bioware making ME2 irrelevant

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

1.So now your complining that its off screen? As I said before, your issue is not Miranda being short sold, it's that she doesn't have that much face time.

No, I'm complaining that there's no inference or implication of anything. You're just headcanoning.

2.And at those time it was an issue of the mission at hand. The one time she doesn't focus on just the mission in hand in a conversation is when she tries to get Shepard to understand her. Other then that she is focus on solving the problem.

Wow, you're really reaching. Don't bother replying to me if you're just going to ignore my points and throw headcanon at me.

3.This is cerberus. She had to kill someone. Espianoge is cerberus main strenght. It would be an issue of it being off screen.

See the above.

4.I didn't say she was her sole motivator. I said she is the center of her character. Her motavator is her issues of control. Her sister is the center of her character because she put such a high value on her. Maranda's motivation make her sister the center of her character.

Oriana is not the center of her character. Congratulations, you're stupid.

[dreman9999]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

BW didn't give any false hope. The fans took what ever thing that can heal Thane disorger and thought it was hope while all along Thane was saying he was dieing. I'm sorry but you guys deluted yourselves.

It's not the lack of a cure I'm talking about - it's the complete disregard for past content, relevant information, Thane's character in ME3 in general. How about an in game why not? As I said earlier they may as well have subbed him with a cardboard cut-out.

Disregard?
Thane was offered a transplaint and declinded it. When he wanted to live again, it was too late for the transplant.
The Hanar are working for a cure, but  will finish it long after thane is dead. 

There is not disregard of anything. You just took some info and warped it into hope on your own.

I understand that English is not your first language, so I'm going to cut you some slack here for that point. Perhaps you just read people's statements selectively. Let me make it very clear for you:

I'm okay with Thane dying. This is acceptable. He was terminally ill. The validity of your statement regarding the viability of a transplant 174 years in the future is debatable, but that is not my point. The mere fact that cure leads were mentioned in past content and then completely ignored in ME3 dialogue with Thane himself is.
I'm not asking for more space magic, we got enough of that at the end of ME3. What I want is for Thane's dialogue to be fleshed out with more believable dialogue pertaining to the romance and pertaining to how his renewed search for a cure evaporated.

You want him to say that he tried to find  a cure? But it was already too late. Why would he try to find a cure?

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1.So now your complining that its off screen? As I said before, your issue is not Miranda being short sold, it's that she doesn't have that much face time.

No, I'm complaining that there's no inference or implication of anything. You're just headcanoning.

2.And at those time it was an issue of the mission at hand. The one time she doesn't focus on just the mission in hand in a conversation is when she tries to get Shepard to understand her. Other then that she is focus on solving the problem.

Wow, you're really reaching. Don't bother replying to me if you're just going to ignore my points and throw headcanon at me.

3.This is cerberus. She had to kill someone. Espianoge is cerberus main strenght. It would be an issue of it being off screen.

See the above.

4.I didn't say she was her sole motivator. I said she is the center of her character. Her motavator is her issues of control. Her sister is the center of her character because she put such a high value on her. Maranda's motivation make her sister the center of her character.

Oriana is not the center of her character. Congratulations, you're stupid.

1. Again, she is not just going to say it in the open.
2.Bu she does just comment mostly on the mission on hand, That why she's called an ice queen.
3.Read 1.
4.Center of a character is not the same a motavations.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Again, she is not just going to say it in the open.
2.Bu she does just comment mostly on the mission on hand, That why she's called an ice queen.
3.Read 1.
4.Center of a character is not the same a motavations.

1. Like I said, you're just headcanoning. Stop.

2. You don't know what an ice queen is. Congratulations.

3. Read #1.

4. I never said the two were the same. Not that it matters anyway, seeing how Oriana is not the center of Miranda's character.

[Taboo]

not sure if srs

Does no one here read faces anymore?

Miranda shows more emotion on her face than any other character.

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Again, she is not just going to say it in the open.
2.Bu she does just comment mostly on the mission on hand, That why she's called an ice queen.
3.Read 1.
4.Center of a character is not the same a motavations.

1. Like I said, you're just headcanoning. Stop.

2. You don't know what an ice queen is. Congratulations.

3. Read #1.

4. I never said the two were the same. Not that it matters anyway, seeing how Oriana is not the center of Miranda's character.

1.This is cerberus. Ofcourse shot were fired and people were killed. Add, She is not going to say that she kill anyone out in the open. If you were hiding from someone, would you? THIS IS AN ISSUE OF YOU WANTING TO SEE IT.
2. It's a woman who shows little or no emotion and/or care of others. That is Miranda. In ME2, That is how her character is applied in exception to extreme events or conflicts happen.(AKA, Dealing with Jack, protecting her sister, explining her motivations to Shepard, and romancing Shepard.)Miranda is a hard person to like.
She is not overanylitical excepts for her own personal issues.
3. READ 1.
4.Oriana is her center of her character.If it's not, tell me what it is.

[Taboo]

If you had been abused as child like I was you'd understand that some people have a very hard time making relationships with others because they don't trust them. That's the core of her issue.

Your behavior is absolutely appalling. I would suggest you talk to the character.

[dreman9999]

Taboo-XX wrote...

If you had been abused as child like I was you'd understand that some people have a very hard time making relationships with others because they don't trust them. That's the core of her issue.

Your behavior is absolutely appalling. I would suggest you talk to the character.

But I'm not taking about the core of her issues. I'm taking about the core of the character.
Mirandas motivation and core of her issues is different from the center of her character.

[o Ventus]

dreman9999 wrote...

1.This is cerberus. Ofcourse shot were fired and people were killed. Add, She is not going to say that she kill anyone out in the open. If you were hiding from someone, would you? THIS IS AN ISSUE OF YOU WANTING TO SEE IT.

No. It. Is. Not. Have you read any of my previous posts? Are you always this ignorant?

2. It's a woman who shows little or no emotion and/or care of others. That is Miranda. In ME2, That is how her character is applied in exception to extreme events or conflicts happen.(AKA, Dealing with Jack, protecting her sister, explining her motivations to Shepard, and romancing Shepard.)Miranda is a hard person to like.

You literally said earlier "she comments on the mission at hand, that's what makes her an ice queen."

Anything else you want to contradict yourself on?

She is not overanylitical excepts for her own personal issues.

First you say she isn't overanalytical at all, but now she's overanalytical when it suits her? Well, which is it?

3. READ 1.

I did. That doesn't make it any less bullsh*t headcanon.

4.Oriana is her center of her character.If it's not, tell me what it is.

Her affiliation to Cerberus is her center. That's literally the foundation upon which she was created.

[krasnoarmeets]

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

krasnoarmeets wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

Thane did not deserve this. If he was an LI, we could've at least had the option to allow him to live depending on our choices from ME 2 to 3.

I honestly was not happy with how our "choices" affected ME 3.

Thane dieing is not the problem. Why are people asking for a magic cure?

I don't have a huge problem with Thane dying. Everyone dies and people who are terminally ill with incurable afflications all the more so, but it's the way it was handled. Fans also shouldn't be given false hope without an explanation of why not. Thane doesn't even mention why he suddenly forgot about trying to find a cure or extend his life.

BW didn't give any false hope. The fans took what ever thing that can heal Thane disorger and thought it was hope while all along Thane was saying he was dieing. I'm sorry but you guys deluted yourselves.

It's not the lack of a cure I'm talking about - it's the complete disregard for past content, relevant information, Thane's character in ME3 in general. How about an in game why not? As I said earlier they may as well have subbed him with a cardboard cut-out.

Disregard?
Thane was offered a transplaint and declinded it. When he wanted to live again, it was too late for the transplant.
The Hanar are working for a cure, but  will finish it long after thane is dead. 

There is not disregard of anything. You just took some info and warped it into hope on your own.

I understand that English is not your first language, so I'm going to cut you some slack here for that point. Perhaps you just read people's statements selectively. Let me make it very clear for you:

I'm okay with Thane dying. This is acceptable. He was terminally ill. The validity of your statement regarding the viability of a transplant 174 years in the future is debatable, but that is not my point. The mere fact that cure leads were mentioned in past content and then completely ignored in ME3 dialogue with Thane himself is.
I'm not asking for more space magic, we got enough of that at the end of ME3. What I want is for Thane's dialogue to be fleshed out with more believable dialogue pertaining to the romance and pertaining to how his renewed search for a cure evaporated.

You want him to say that he tried to find  a cure? But it was already too late. Why would he try to find a cure?

Not sure if trolling or simply cannot see the link between new found love and new lease on life.

He does mention this in ME2. He wants to live. Awakened once more from his battle sleep.

I want him to not be such a shallow cardboard cut-out character in ME3. Many people do. I don't demand a miracle cure, what I want is some character depth.  

[Taboo]

dreman9999 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

If you had been abused as child like I was you'd understand that some people have a very hard time making relationships with others because they don't trust them. That's the core of her issue.

Your behavior is absolutely appalling. I would suggest you talk to the character.

But I'm not taking about the core of her issues. I'm taking about the core of the character.
Mirandas motivation and core of her issues is different from the center of her character.

not sure if srs

Everything she is stems from those issues. Her character is a result of that.

Turns out she's actually a good person, the only prerequsite is that you have to actually talk to her.

She belives strongly that her work makes a difference and her past allows her to excel at it.

But at the end of the day she's a human being, looking for validation like everyone else. As it turns out people are healthier when they have friends or a partner.

Are you aware that she has very little before she meets Shepard?

[Dried Donkey]

I romanced thane in ME 2.

I saw him in ME 3 and had sexy time.

He fought with a baddie and...lost lets say

He died.

I fought the baddie and won

I got revenge

closure!

[dreman9999]

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1.This is cerberus. Ofcourse shot were fired and people were killed. Add, She is not going to say that she kill anyone out in the open. If you were hiding from someone, would you? THIS IS AN ISSUE OF YOU WANTING TO SEE IT.

No. It. Is. Not. Have you read any of my previous posts? Are you always this ignorant?

2. It's a woman who shows little or no emotion and/or care of others. That is Miranda. In ME2, That is how her character is applied in exception to extreme events or conflicts happen.(AKA, Dealing with Jack, protecting her sister, explining her motivations to Shepard, and romancing Shepard.)Miranda is a hard person to like.

You literally said earlier "she comments on the mission at hand, that's what makes her an ice queen."

Anything else you want to contradict yourself on?

She is not overanylitical excepts for her own personal issues.

First you say she isn't overanalytical at all, but now she's overanalytical when it suits her? Well, which is it?

3. READ 1.

I did. That doesn't make it any less bullsh*t headcanon.

4.Oriana is her center of her character.If it's not, tell me what it is.

Her affiliation to Cerberus is her center. That's literally the foundation upon which she was created.

1. What your saying is that because you didn't see it happen it did not happen. What I'm saying is that because I know how the character and the group she is in conflict in acts, it a great chance it happen. This is cerberus , explain to me why they would not force Miranda to kill one of their agents they sent ou to kill her. If you know cerberus , you would know how relentless they are. There is no way with the way cerberus act would miranda walk away with out killing some one.
2. No, I'm say she is only 
overanalytical with her own persnal issues. Everything else she is straight  focus on finding the salution.
3...Sigh
4.No that is not the center of her character. Cerberus is just a means to an end. Miranda is not about cerberus. TIM is. The fact that she leave show that cerberus is not the center of her character.

[Taboo]

^ What the hell are you smoking?

I'm going to need to start drinking to continue this conversation.

[The Angry One]

Nothing good ever comes from debating with dreman.