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Dragon Age 3? 4?.... where are they going with this series?


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xsamplexample

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 Ive been wondering this ever since i finished origins, but where is the overall DA series going?  Mage vs. Templars?  no.  where are the darkspawn?  I wanted to know more about the mother and the architect!
i believe i heard something about DA3 taking place in orlias?  how about NOT in thedas?  i want that world to be more fleshed out!  This small isolated continent isnt good enough!  I want to see the northern hemisphere of the planet they are on; i want to see what theyre doing and how they live. 

I really wanted to see my warden from origins to be imported into 2.  that was my biggest letdown.  i didnt really care about being confined to kirkwall, but transfering my save data and just mentioning that stuff??? No.  

Dragon age 3 needs to be amazing.  bioware already killed ME.  please dont kill DA for me too..<_<

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 I imagine bioware is planning a number of stories and scenarios for future DA games.From Qunari invasions to a war between countries,chantry rebellions,Dalish/Elf uprisings,to fast forwarding in time to do another Blight.They aren't stoping at a trilogy or so they say.Hopefully we end the Mage-Templars war in the third game,it hasn't even started and already people are bored and sick with the war lol...I really hope Bioware doesn't screw it up,since their last few games have been:( really dissapointing to put it mildly.

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Considering we've had it mentioned multiple times that the Qunari will eventually invade Thedas in all out war I'd love to see a game about that.

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yes, i agree, but most of all, i want to see the darkspawn story play out more... the architect seemed interesting. i thought the origins dlc would lead into da2, but alas, it was not so.

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Well, the thing is, the way they are doing DA, it is really open to do what they want. However, I can't see how they can avoid issues with so many worlds going in different directions, unless they keep big choices isolated to certain areas, like who rules one nation that won't really impact other nations.

They can do a lot since the main character is not the PC, it's Thedas.

Qunari invasion.
Darkspawn uprising (doesn't have to be a blight with sentient darkspawn now)
Tevinter civil war.
Another Chantry schism.
Finding Arlathan (could be a game just focused on Arlathan, its mysteries, exploring, maybe rebuilding)
Nevarra-Orlais war.
Hunting down some evil person who plans some evil scheme that no major faction/nation is aware of.
A Napolean situation...

Don't think they have much limit on what to do next, other than all the choices being made being somehow remembered in future games, that sounds difficult if they come out with a tenth DA game, unless a plot happens that negates very early choices, like whatever you did in DA4 doesn't matter because that nation blew up in DA7 or something.

If they go back to a darkspawn focus, would be nice to go to the Anderfels for it.

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I hope they ditch the numbering system. There's nothing appealing about the name "Dragon Age 7".

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

I hope they ditch the numbering system. There's nothing appealing about the name "Dragon Age 7".


Neither is "Dragon Age: The Qunari Invasion" to be perfectly honest.

Modifié par PhillyB, 22 juillet 2012 - 10:16 .


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PhillyB wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

I hope they ditch the numbering system. There's nothing appealing about the name "Dragon Age 7".


Neither is "Dragon Age: The Qunari Invasion" to be perfectly honest.


Actually, yeah, it kind of is. "Dragon Age: Par Vollen", "Dragon Age: Demand of the Qun". If i hadn't of heard of this series, i would pick that **** up in an instant. Titles with numbers next to them usually deter people from buying without research, as it insinuates there is story they would have to catch up on.

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

PhillyB wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

I hope they ditch the numbering system. There's nothing appealing about the name "Dragon Age 7".


Neither is "Dragon Age: The Qunari Invasion" to be perfectly honest.


Titles with numbers next to them usually deter people from buying without research, as it insinuates there is story they would have to catch up on.


Isn't that the point?

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PhillyB wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

PhillyB wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

I hope they ditch the numbering system. There's nothing appealing about the name "Dragon Age 7".


Neither is "Dragon Age: The Qunari Invasion" to be perfectly honest.


Titles with numbers next to them usually deter people from buying without research, as it insinuates there is story they would have to catch up on.


Isn't that the point?


Why would a company want the consumers to think that they have to play the previous games?

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 22 juillet 2012 - 11:23 .


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PhillyB wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

PhillyB wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

I hope they ditch the numbering system. There's nothing appealing about the name "Dragon Age 7".


Neither is "Dragon Age: The Qunari Invasion" to be perfectly honest.


Titles with numbers next to them usually deter people from buying without research, as it insinuates there is story they would have to catch up on.


Isn't that the point?

Yes and no. I'm sure they would be happy to have people hear about Dragon Age 3, think it was interesting, and decide to pick up DAO and DA2 along with it so they could play the continued story. It gives them more money. On the other hand, so many sequels might be intimidating. If a potential player thinks they might not know what is going on in the fifth game in a series, they might just decide to bypass it altogether.

I play World of Warcraft, and until recently I had never played a Diablo game. Last year Blizzard offered a special deal where you would get Diablo 3 for free if you agreed to pay for WoW for a year. Since I was going to do that anyway, I signed up. It was a totally free game for me. I hadn't been planning on getting Diablo 3, mainly because of the story elements that I wouldn't know. Since I got it for free, I gave it a go and discovered that the previous games weren't that important in my enjoyment of the current game. Several people in my guild were in the exact same position.

Even it's not pertinant to the current story, you do miss out on fun tidbits, cameos, or other background information when you jump into the middle of a series. I'm sure there are things I've missed in D3 simply because I haven't played the other games.

All of that based on a title.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 22 juillet 2012 - 01:20 .


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i think after either 4 or 5 that they usually stop with numbers cause when someone mentioned DA7 it just doesnt roll of the tongue very well.

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Dress me slowly I'm in a hurry. If Bioware had read some history had not broken Dragon Age.
Origins leave open a lot of great possibilities: the baby Morigan if you made the agreement or possession of Flemeth, war with qunari, romantic relationships that each person had, Orlais, free brands, Antiva. The darkspawn had not finished just needed a new leader, all you had to do was keep the line of the game, it could be improved if the graphics a bit, adding more opportunities for both the main character's relationships with peers as peer with each other, simplifying some spells and talents (there were too many and the bar was very small) to anyone who has played Awaking Origins and was interested in having the only possibility of being the son or daughter of a merchant Lothering,
Could be made ​​to appear, in terms of romantic relationships, a third person and the player decides if they had wanted to continue or start a new one.
Something was lacking leisure time along such battle, would have given more realism.
Retain some fellow, really wanted to play again with Sten and why not with Alistair, he never stopped wanting to be a gray guard, but with a better relationship is too distant and cold if you do not have a romantic relationship with him.
Another thing that disappointed me was that aesthetically ruin a race, the elves (traditionally and Origins) are beautiful, in DA2 seem ridiculous and ugly.

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The first and the most recent, Mage vs. Templar. Then, Qunari Invasion.
Don't forget about the darkspawn too, there are still two Old Gods that the darkspawn haven't woke up yet. So, two more blights. There are still dragons wondering in the skies of Thedas. And I can imagine Tevinter magisters attacking other countries. And maybe the last and the big fight: The Fade vs. The Real World (oh my wouldn't that be interesting)

Modifié par rev0n, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:55 .


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The final one will probably involve restoring the Golden City before the final blight begins, the one that destroys the world. Of course, it won't answer the question regarding the existence of the Maker.

Ultima IX? Though as I mentioned elsewhere, that series had extended titles except for the first one. (Same with Wing Commander until the 5th one that bombed horribly.)

There's no guarantee that numbering versus naming will make a difference in sales. I just prefer the more-common episode names that fantasy novels use. They want readers to read the previous ones, too. Dragon Age doesn't require players to play the previous ones, but their import feature often entices others to see what changes.

In the matter of the second Dragon Age, though, they might as well skipped the import feature altogether what with the import bugs and ignored variable. Personally, I think forgetting about any imports is fine. It worked for Ultima and Wing Commander. There were different ways to reach the end of those games and the Wing Commander series even had multiple endings. People seemed to play them in all different ways as if they were trying to decide what would be canon for the next one. The later ones only hinted at stories from the previous ones as if they wanted to give players a teaser for the previous games if they hadn't played them.

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Well the plan was to leave the world in an interesting situation, I guess. And it worked, I believe. There is something they build up to that will be great, some may say. It might be DA 6 when it happens, I was told.

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I´m not entirly sure.

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The Fade vs. The Real World (oh my wouldn't that be interesting)

This is one of the things that i expect of the Dragon Age franchise.

We know that in areas of conflict can weaken the Veil enough for Demons to gain a foothold in the real world. With the tension stacking up between factions, it's likely that we'll see a great deal of war in future.

War, Death, Blood, Violence. Misuse of Magic. All of this, all over Thedas, could result in the Veil becoming weak enough for Demons to gain a true foothold in the real world. The Veil itself could possibly even shatter, breaking the barrier between the Fade and Thedas, who knows what would happen.

I'd truly love to see that happen.

where are they going with this series?

I believe Dragon Age II was used to build up tension between factions and set the stage for future titles, preparing the franchise for all out war.

The Chantry and Mages at each other's throats.
The Qunari pursuing sole domination of Thedas.
The Tevinter Magisters seeking even more power.
Orlais getting antsy for quite some time now.
Starkhaven not being ruled by it's true Monarch.

Dragon Age II has built up a *lot* of political tension and Thedas is on the brink of all out war. The entire game pretty much gave Bioware fodder for the *entire* future of the franchise. We also have things from Origins and Awakening like the new Darkspawn Factions and the possibility of the God Baby.

The future of the Dragon Age franchise is pretty obvious at this point: All out war.

how about NOT in thedas?

A bit silly, considering the entire franchise is focused on Thedas.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 25 juillet 2012 - 11:46 .


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xsamplexample wrote...

 Ive been wondering this ever since i finished origins, but where is the overall DA series going?


Where the writers intend.

where are the darkspawn?


In Origins and Awakening.

I wanted to know more about the mother and the architect!


You found out the majority about them in Awakening, the series has to move on and the Architect's story will probably play some role if he's alive at some point. Just not a key role considering we've dealt with him already.

i believe i heard something about DA3 taking place in orlias?  how about NOT in thedas?


That'd kind of be hard considering the entire story is about Thedas, the conflicts residing within it and how the writers created individual nations with their own conflicts and culture.

i want that world to be more fleshed out! This small isolated continent isnt good enough!


We'll see what happens when they've covered all the nations and conflicts happening on Thedas first.

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The only problem with the DA series is the games arent coming out fast enough! :) There is SOOOO much to explore, far more than they would ever have trouble getting to, even if they did a new game every year. This isnt any kind of problem whatsoever, there is just so much awesomeness to enjoy, storylines to advance, begin, end, swerves that we never see coming, etc. you name it, its already set up for that, and anything that isnt already set up can be quite easily. So no worries, they arent running out of new fun and cool things to do, not now, not soon, not ever!

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One thing I would like, is to have each game be a unique story and not carrying out a storyline over many games. If they absolutely MUST do it please no more than a trilogy, and keep those few and far between.

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joshko wrote...

One thing I would like, is to have each game be a unique story and not carrying out a storyline over many games. If they absolutely MUST do it please no more than a trilogy, and keep those few and far between.


No thank you, what you suggest defeats the whole point of choice & consequence.

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Emzamination wrote...

joshko wrote...

One thing I would like, is to have each game be a unique story and not carrying out a storyline over many games. If they absolutely MUST do it please no more than a trilogy, and keep those few and far between.


No thank you, what you suggest defeats the whole point of choice & consequence.


Dragon Age was never about long term choice and consequence. 

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tehturian wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

joshko wrote...

One thing I would like, is to have each game be a unique story and not carrying out a storyline over many games. If they absolutely MUST do it please no more than a trilogy, and keep those few and far between.


No thank you, what you suggest defeats the whole point of choice & consequence.


Dragon Age was never about long term choice and consequence. 


The impact of our actions must always remain in every title even if they no longer have an effect.If we keep having to start anew our past protagonist stories will need to be made canon essentially making the effort we put into moulding them useless.

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xsamplexample wrote...

i believe i heard something about DA3 taking place in orlias?  how about NOT in thedas?  i want that world to be more fleshed out!  This small isolated continent isnt good enough!  I want to see the northern hemisphere of the planet they are on; i want to see what theyre doing and how they live. 


But there's so much going on in Thedas!  Frankly, I'd get a tad pissy if we left Thedas before we 1)resolved the templar/mage issue  2)dealt with the qunari invasion  3)finally figured out what that bloody architecht is/was up to and 4) discover what flemeth is and why (departing into wild speculation here, feel free to ignore it) she's collecting Thedas' great heroes of the age

my guess is that 3 is going to deal w the mages and the chantry and set the stage for the qunari invasion, which will take place in 4

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There are a lot of storylines that could be pursued and expanded on from previous hints in the first two games:
Corypheus, The Architeact and sentient darkspawn generally. In the case of the first two, who are they exactly? Why are they different? There is a whole lot more about the darkspawn they we originally believed.

Primitive civilisations that existed prior to the Imperium. There is Arlathan for the elves and the Primitive Thaig for the dwarves, both of which produced magical artifacts that have highly questionable effects in the present world. Is this because they were originally constructed that way or is it result of the magic being twisted overtime or through contain with the darkspawn taint?

Where did the humans originally come from and the Qunari? The elves claim the former originally arrived in Par Volen, just as the Qunari did many thousands of years later. What is so special about Par Volen?

Who and what really was Andraste? Just an ordinary slave or someone with a special insight into the Fade? The Guardian claimed he would exist until Tevinter fell. This would suggest that destroying Tevinter (and slavery) was more important to Andraste than spreading the Chant.

Who was Shartan? What were his beliefs and relationship to Andraste? There are clearly records in the Chantry archives which give more information about him (as evidenced by the codex for his sword in DA2). The Dalish believed that the promise made to Shartan could not be revoked and yet Orlais/The Chantry disregarded it. With the Chantry and Orlais in turmoil, the opportunity exists to delve into this.

There have been many hints that the Qunari are planning another invasion. We still have not seen them in their full glory. Both Sten and the Arishok had lost much of their armour and equipment. Fighting a fully equipped Quanri war party would be a fresh challenge. Since Ferelden was weakened by the Blight, Orlais is in the course of self destruction and the mages (the first and most important line of defense against the Qunari) are in rebellion throughout Thedas, the time is ripe for an invasion to take place.

Dragon law - their origins and importance. Their connection with the old gods. Also their connection with Flemeth and her daughters.

All the above could be dealt with in future games and some could even be the main driving force. However, so far as DA3 is concerned it is clear from the conclusion to DA2 and the book Asunder that the plot is going to revolve around two major themes - the mage/templar war and the Chantry's attempt to mediate, and the Orlesian civil war. Since at the end of the book, the mage headquarters was an old Tevinter fortress in northern Orlais, it stands to reason that the majority of the action will be taking place in that country. However, that doesn't mean that other countries that border Orlais might not be involved. Specfically the PC might be required to travel to places like Ferelden to gauge their support for a particular person or faction.
Personally I don't mind what they choose to make the focus just so long as the choices we are presented with make sense and the characters driving the plot are believeable, not reduced to pantomime villains who are obviously insane. Whilst I wouldn't mind knowing what has happened to previous characters, PC or companions, I'd rather not have them brought back unless they are true to their previous incarnation.