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[Chaoswind]

Let's think for a second.

Shadow Strike takes both power and melee bonuses (bio better don't fix this as shadow would become a ****tier nova guard otherwise)

So base damage (130% for cloak) (mental focuser gear) (melee +30 on weapon) (power damage + 40?) = crapton of damage.

(I am on a phone to I can't look for the exact numbers)

On top of that add the new shotgun with the cloak damage bonus and incinerate ammo (what ammo was?) and you have a true assassin build.

Disclaimer:

Enemies killed by ammo effects aka incinerate don't give any kind of medals besides kill medals.

[Kick In The Door]

L.ast L.ife wrote...

Kick In The Door wrote...

L.ast L.ife wrote...

This thread is absolutely priceless.  Some people take e-fame and reputation waaaayyy too seriously to the point of reaching pathetic levels here.  Never a dull moment.

I can't wait for tomorrow's episode!

Will Stardusk beat up Redjohn irl?

Will Air Quotes work on his anal issues?

Will Redjohn leave his house?

TUNE IN TOMORROW FOR ANSWERS!!

SWANK.

Everyday BSN effortlessly inches closer to resembling a terrible live action DBZ arc that will never end.  I'm still waiting for Stardusk and Air Quotes to fuse into AirDusk before RedJohn attains the legendary SGP4 (SuperGoldPro) state so they can spend the next 10 pages trading blows via Plat Solo vids, bro.

LOL

Getting flashbacks of the whole 15mins spent watching Dragonball Evolution. 

Modifié par Kick In The Door, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:28 .

[count_4]

tehBobby wrote...

Leisure Muffin wrote...

RedJohn wrote...


Sometimes Phantoms can die from 1 hit, I don't know yet in what this depends on because most of the time I need 1 shadow strike from cloak and then shot, but other times they just died from 1 single shadow strike.

Really?  You see, because on gold that's over 4000 points of damage.  Not sure what it is on platinum.  This really makes me question the authenticity of this video.  Your shadow strike was at 1800 without the bonuses.  All I'm saying is that I've never seen an SS OSOK a phantom.  I could be wrong.  I'm not trying to be a dick, it just comes out that way naturally. :happy:

I've mostly been playing the Shadow since the DLC came out and I can affirm that Phantoms can't die in one direct SS (if fully shielded) on GOLD, let alone Platinum. Usually it's the DoT effect that finishes them off if you have SS specced for full damage. I've tried OHOK'ing with the Passive as well.

It should actually be possible. Now I never played solo gold with Shadow so another player might have sneaked in a shot but I'm pretty sure I have OHK Phantoms.

Just run the bonus numbers: 80% damage bonus + 50% melee bonus from cloak. Additional 50% vs. barriers from SS itself. Fitness gives you 65% melee bonus. And finally Sword Mastery, another 50% damage bonus.

edit: Even forgot the damage bonus from gear and shotgun mod. 

Seeing as a Phantom has slightly over 4000 total Protection/HP it should be possible.

Modifié par count_4, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:48 .

[Chaoswind]

Kick In The Door wrote...

Mandalore313 wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

Why would they do that? To calm the forum nerds that for the love of god can't see anything other than overpowered classes beating platinum?

You just said in previous post that you did exactly that and bioware told you it's all good. Bullshιt much?

What I see here are ignorant people talking about things and "believing" in something.
There's no proof that his runs are legit yet people claim that he's done it before.
His connection - conveniently enough - doesn't allow him to play with others, yet those others appeared up here and commented on his great playstyle - even though he should be terrible because of his connectivity.

My friends list consists of people who are great players, and by that I mean players that will not wipe on platinum unless they want to. We've made world records in speedruns that require the most optimal builds, our outmost skills and perfect cooperation.
Then le wild redjohn appears and does what a four man team did in 6 more minutes with a build that needs 1 minute to kill a single prime - all without using any consumables.

Get the fυck outa here.






I'm just astonished to see how people easily believe this crap.

Oy! You must be patient Mandalore-san

He who knows without knowledge is he who makes fool of himself!

Lost in translation?

I guess people are just tards.

Let's give context:

Mod says people that unlock ultra rares to level 10  a day after dlc release get flagged by the system.
I said redjohn has done that with every dlc (saved a ****ton of millions) and as thus he would have been banned ages ago.
Mod explains that just being flagged by the system isn't enough for a ban and that they know RedJohn case and he has not been banned because all his shopping sprees are legit.

Troll me more. 

Modifié par Chaoswind, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:33 .

[Chaoswind]

You pick enemies that stray of the ball of death and Vancouver is pretty big, so it is easy to pick on targets that stray

[Fortack]

Hyperionyht wrote...

Review his videos and consider his builds. [...] In all his short, imperfect clips of this game, his movement, situational awareness, knowledge of the AI's behavior, and especially his choices of engagements all speak to his experience and skill as a player. His style is of survival and attrition, and he's damn good at it. That's how you do well running solo. What use are DPS charts when you can kill everything with a peashooter if you mitigate all damage?

He did a solo run (gold) with a Human Engineer using the Scorpion and Phaeston in 52 min (FBW). As usual he only posted wave 11 but this time he also posted how this Engineer of his dealt with a single Banshee. Well, if it takes nearly 3 minutes to kill one Banshee (there are at least 10-12 Banshees between wave 3-10) that leaves very little time to kill all the others and complete the 3 objectives. Those two videos are quite contradictory, at least in my opinion.

I would become a RedJohn admirer instead of a skeptic when he posts a vid showing how his Shadow completes a single wave on Platinum (without using consumables) in 3-4 minutes.

Modifié par Fortack, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:45 .

[Sp3c7eR]

Chaoswind wrote...

You pick enemies that stray of the ball of death and Vancouver is pretty big, so it is easy to pick on targets that stray

You do realize that using this strategy a run like this would take 60 mins at least, right? To complete platinum in 40 min you have to be constantly doing massive damage, and I mean all the time. There's no time for repositioning and running around except on objective waves. If you were to carefully pick your targets, it would take way more than 40 mins. Also consider you need a lot longer to kill bosses with this build.

[aletto]

Air Quotes wrote...

Fortack wrote...

Hyperionyht wrote...

Review his videos and consider his builds. [...] In all his short, imperfect clips of this game, his movement, situational awareness, knowledge of the AI's behavior, and especially his choices of engagements all speak to his experience and skill as a player. His style is of survival and attrition, and he's damn good at it. That's how you do well running solo. What use are DPS charts when you can kill everything with a peashooter if you mitigate all damage?

He did a solo run (gold) with a Human Engineer using the Scorpion and Phaeston in 52 min (FBW). As usual he only posted wave 11 but this time he also posted how this Engineer of his dealt with a single Banshee. Well, if it takes nearly 3 minutes to kill one Banshee (there are at least 10-12 Banshees between wave 3-10) that leaves very little time to kill all the others and complete the 3 objectives. Those two videos are quite contradictory, at least in my opinion.

I would become a RedJohn admirer instead of a skeptic when he posts a vid showing how his Shadow completes a single wave on Platinum (without using consumables) in 3-4 minutes.

That's all he shows. Dying, missile usage and then kiting for 3 minutes. 

Hm, if he completes Platinum faster than Gold and takes so much time for single Banshee...
These are only signs, but I do doubt the authenticity of his runs. I'll promise to beg for forgiveness though if it turns out that I'm wrong and he's right.

PS @air quotes 1. Nice avatar 2.

Air Quotes wrote...
PS. Alekto - you're an awesome player and I know that, but let's face it. Even with your Rossie GI you would not clear Platinum in 40 minutes. And with consumables left. 

Did you mean me? Cause I didn't mention a GI at all and I'm definitively not an awesome player D;
I think you confused me with somebody else.

Modifié par aletto, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:04 .

[Senshirou]

show the whole solo from start to finish then I might believe it.

[Crimson Vanguard]

@aletto

AirQuotes means shadephoenix aka LadyAlekto not you

[sy7ar]

Killahead wrote...

aletto wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

Of course, because reave plus cluster grenades are able to clear whole enemy spawns in seconds. The drell adept is equal,especially with the new grenade gear now.

OT, but I thought that the Drellguard has only Charge, Pull and Cluster nades?

Don't forget Nova.

This.

[aletto]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

@aletto

AirQuotes means shadephoenix aka LadyAlekto not you

Yeah he wrote it before you ;D
I was kinda confused, could have been a typo

Modifié par aletto, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:06 .

[Chaoswind]

Oh I played with her and RedJohn and she is a beast, even Redjohn says she is better than him, but she isn't interested in solos (as far as I know) and why should she be? Takes longer for the same reward, there is no reason to solo.

[FFinfinity1]

I've played with Alekto she is pretty beast with her GI w/Revenant. We beat reaper gold ez a few times

[capn233]

Chaoswind wrote...

Enemies killed by ammo effects aka incinerate don't give any kind of medals besides kill medals.

He's using AP ammo.  And secondly, when Incendiary ammo kills a target, the kill feed says it was your weapon that got the kill.  Have you counted the kills to verify that those don't apply to medals?

Fortack wrote...

He did a solo run (gold) with a Human Engineer using the Scorpion and Phaeston in 52 min (FBW). As usual he only posted wave 11 but this time he also posted how this Engineer of his dealt with a single Banshee. Well, if it takes nearly 3 minutes to kill one Banshee (there are at least 10-12 Banshees between wave 3-10) that leaves very little time to kill all the others and complete the 3 objectives. Those two videos are quite contradictory, at least in my opinion.

He did miss the Banshee a lot, allowance for framerate?

You should kill them faster, that was a problem I had when I tried some different weapon configs.  When I finally finished it with HE, I used Paladin VI and tried to distract them with the Drone so I could just shoot and spam powers.  Could kill a Banshee relatively quickly that way, I ended up with 59min on Giant, but I had several pizzas that dropped close to the LZ and that was helpful.  Nuked some late wave spawns too and ended with 0 rockets.

So there is nobody that could get a good ping to RedJohn to record a wave?

[RedJohn]

 

Air Quotes wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

Oh I played with her and RedJohn and she is a beast, even Redjohn says she is better than him, but she isn't interested in solos (as far as I know) and why should she be? Takes longer for the same reward, there is no reason to solo.

Yeah. She's a beast. But I doubt she can clear Platinum with her GI and Revenant (which out DPS's Shadow by a mile) in 40 minutes with all protection gear and still have consumables left. 

I will never be as good as her with a revenant.

Maybe with other classes and weapons, but i never be able to use a revenant like that 

Hyperionyht wrote...

I can't wait until a full RedJohn match gets recorded and he shows the self-appointed elite meta-gamers in this thread how to play this game.

Review his videos and consider his builds. Watch him mitigate damage against the Geth with his Batarian through clever use of stun and repositioning. In the Shadow video, his bout with the Hunters is particularly revealing. Up until his mistake targeting the Banshee with SS instead of a Hunter, he dodges every Hunter shot at point blank, by simply moving at the appropriate times in the appropriate manner. In all his short, imperfect clips of this game, his movement, situational awareness, knowledge of the AI's behavior, and especially his choices of engagements all speak to his experience and skill as a player. His style is of survival and attrition, and he's damn good at it. That's how you do well running solo. What use are DPS charts when you can kill everything with a peashooter if you mitigate all damage?

If you can't infer all this from his videos, that's unfortunate, but I'll still maintain that careful study finds him to be an excellent, grade-S player who plays to his strengths and not silly, unwarranted assumptions as to how to play a goddamn video game. There's every reason to trust the legitimacy of his runs based on what little we've seen, if that's really important to you, and no reasonable ground for calling him a fraud. Just because you can't conceive of something being possible certainly doesn't make it so, even if it's impossible for you.

This is a smart person 


Anyway, I will quote myself some pages ago

Well, Air Quotes said that he wants to see a full wave 10 on platinum, I will try it, but I can't assure you nothing because while recording the game becomes REALLY slow, most in platinum because there are more enemies, but if I do it, it will be Hilarious because then, some caribbean guy with a pentium from 2005 playing at more or less 10 FPS managed platinum while some people can't even at 60 fps.

But of course, as I said before, I won't promisse nothing, I really do it for fun, because I don't care what you think, much less now after read couple of you lol.

But of course, If I do it haters will come again and call me cheater, tell me that I use some divine intervention or another weird excuse, anyway, you know, it's pretty funny because meanwhile I am sleeping, going out and having fun with girlfriend you are here disscussin so hard if I am a liar or not, if my build works or not, and blablblablablabla, l love you all 


Interesting, some talk about objective wave and it seems they haven't seen this vid  

Modifié par RedJohn, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:39 .

[RKOLK]

why don't you buy a new computer?
& show us a full solo game
cuz what you have been showing us
is not possible unless hacks

[Poulpor]

Stardusk wrote...


The stuff he does, pretty much miracles. Specter cannot do that and he is better player by leagues.

How are you sure that specter is a better player ? how you measure the skill on mass effect ?