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#201
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RedJohn wrote...

...it's pretty funny because meanwhile I am sleeping, going out and having fun with girlfriend you are here disscussin so hard if I am a liar or not, if my build works or not, and blablblablablabla, l love you all [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/kissing.png[/smilie] 



Snap. Real-life comparisons like this one on the Internet are always a strong argument.

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The stuff he does, pretty much miracles. Specter cannot do that and he is better player by leagues.



How are you sure that specter is a better player ? how you measure the skill on mass effect ?


I've seen Specters full videos of solos and speedruns with groups. And he's awesome. I've seen Stentron solos and groups, played with him - he's awesome.

Never seen a full RedJohn video.

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Nope, full video or it never happens (in a legit way) I have a Shadow level 20 with good settings and she is not that fast killing bosses. I think that the reason of my doubt is because of the time it takes to finish the match.

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Air Quotes wrote...

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You pick enemies that stray of the ball of death and Vancouver is pretty big, so it is easy to pick on targets that stray


The number of little guys in Platinum is very low. It's almost all bosses. He needs to take down an Atlas in 10 seconds tops to have any chance. Especially when he has NO SURVIVABILITY AT ALL.

Also even little guys travel in groups of 2 or 3. If you attack 1, the others will attack you and put you down in 2 seconds. And he decloaks after SS. 


Not argueing against redjohn (I've duo with him), not a fan of Air Quotes (he used to complain about useless stuff iirc... ) but this time I'd suggest you stop wasting your time argueing with him, he argures like he's done solo and has more experience than some of the best players here, when in fact, he doesn't even have the reegar at lvl 10 or Krysae for that matter. 

Not that manifest means a lot, but for me I have every weapon and I have tested them soloing myself, especially some of the OP ones (namely reegar krysae) and I know what DPS they can output, these days I either solo or speed run platinum (about 130k per 15 min), and I've burnt at least 5 repec card on the shadow, equally or more on the slayer and so on. I also have full video showing me soloing with a phoenix guard in 21 min (my sig) and drell. 

Why am I saying this? let me ask you, whose words weigh more? a player's experience goes as far as his rare-incomplete manifest, or players who have demostrated great experience and skills, such as Specter (just check out his channel, nuff said), Stardusk (who spent plenty of time testing builds and weapons to make guides), Mandalore (fastest platinum speed run, gold run before) and myself with every single weapon at lvl X. 

I'm a friend of RedJohn too, and I used to take his words for it, but this time after hearing out many great players opinions (and my own experience), I want to learn a thing or two about how to clear it so fast in that situation, build, map, enemies, without depleting consumables. It's not about fame e-peen whatever, it's about learning, improving our own, and teaching less experience players, clearing up blind foolishness (@lastlife). 

Well guess I have too much time, peace. 

Modifié par sy7ar, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:58 .


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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Good job Redjohn. I was waiting for your platinum shadow solo. Very impressed.

Never mind the skeptics, they probably aren't familiar with your frequently stated lag issues and reputation of not BS'ing people.


Hmm; very convenient that his ping rating keeps him from playing with anyone or recording his solo runs effectively.. . if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. it is a cheating duck. "Occam's razor is a principle urging one to select from among competing hypotheses that which makes the fewest assumptions(wikipedia.com)." Considering all the points that were brought up here in this post, the hypothesis that he cheated makes the fewest assumptions and to ame at least appears to be the correct conclusion. 

There have been several ideas on how he can get a wave 10 objective recorded and I believe that having an additional teamate there just to record would def work.

So Redjohn lets see it man! It will silence all your critics and prove once and for all youa re not blowing smoke.

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@ sy7ar;

Yeah, I have complained that GI is OP. And what do you know. It was. And still is. But that's not the point of this thread.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Poulpor wrote...

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The stuff he does, pretty much miracles. Specter cannot do that and he is better player by leagues.



How are you sure that specter is a better player ? how you measure the skill on mass effect ?


I've seen Specters full videos of solos and speedruns with groups. And he's awesome. I've seen Stentron solos and groups, played with him - he's awesome.

Never seen a full RedJohn video.


Then don't believe me, I can live with that :wizard:.

Ok, my vids are ****, my pc is ****, also my internet is ****.

I play near 30 FPS without recording, in some maps ( white, glacier ) I can reach 30-33 FPS, while recording that number goes down to 11-14 ( best cases ) and 5-10 ( normal cases ).

Now, let's see this one. 
  or not that one, any other.

now my question, can you do that ?
I mean, you think if you play at 10 fps you will be able to do that?:wizard:

Not trying to make anyone believe, in fact i don't care about it, but sometimes when I see people complaining I wonder if they wold be capable of play as I do with my fps's :).



As I said before, i will try to record wave 10, but don't promisse nothing, platinum is too much enemies for be handled by my pc recording.

Modifié par RedJohn, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:05 .


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RedJohn wrote...

Now, let's see this one. 
  or not that one, any other.


Uses 4 rockets to kill 6 banshees, wastes spec ops pack, kites enemies. Speeds up the video framerate. Still takes 3 minutes to finish wave 10.

Typical RedJohn video.


I do not even think you cheat. I think you lag so bad that the enemies do not do any damage half the time. Meh, who cares. Without a proper video your claims have no validity.

Modifié par Kronner, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:06 .


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RedJohn wrote...

 


I used AP ammo IV, Power Gear V, Power Amp IV, Shotgun Rail III


This class is AMAZING, I usually don't like infiltrators but this one bought my heart. 

The strategy here is simple, fight atlas from cover because their misiles can follow you to the infinite and beyond, it happened twice that I teleported while the misile was already in the air and it turned back and hit me behind the atlas... that must be fixed.

Primes are easy in certain way because they can miss their shots easily.
Banshees are left for the end when Primes and atlases are death, because I need the shotgun a lot with bosses, basically I only used the Pirahna to kill bosses.

Sometimes Phantoms can die from 1 hit, I don't know yet in what this depends on because most of the time I need 1 shadow strike from cloak and then shot, but other times they just died from 1 single shadow strike.


So people, N7 shadow is a great class and its electrical slash is very good too, even how I have it, it deals great damage and saved me more than once, well, you can check that because I have more tech kills than shotgun kills.


PS: seriously, some of you use sniper with this character?


GJ!

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Yes I can do that. Use some missiles. Ops packs, die, run around for a bit while eating Banshees warps - I can do that. With a Harrier X I can defo do that. 

You host, get a guy to join and die at the beginning of the wave and record. That's it.

Modifié par Air Quotes, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:09 .


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Kronner wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Now, let's see this one. 
  or not that one, any other.


Uses 4 rockets to kill 6 banshees, wastes spec ops pack, kites enemies. Speeds up the video framerate. Still takes 3 minutes to finish wave 10.

Typical RedJohn video.


I do not even think you cheat. I think you lag so bad that the enemies do not do any damage half the time. Meh, who cares. Without a proper video your claims have no validity.


Johnny don't care. He's too busy having fun with his girlfriend!

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I don't really have an opinion either way, but if Redjohn can play with other people I'm not really seeing why someone else couldn't die and record as has been suggested. It wouldn't be perfect due to bad ping, but surely it'd be easier than trying to play at 10 FPS.

Modifié par Achire, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:22 .


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I heard the slayer sucked so the shadow is good

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garrusfan1 wrote...

I heard the slayer sucked so the shadow is good


i loves the shadow....i the slayer aint bad....just has a big learning curve.

if it sucked that bad....imma say The N7 Slayer is to ME3MP as Dan was to Street Fighter Alpha... and anyone that can do well with it...IS THE MAN!!!

Modifié par corporal doody, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:28 .


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The fraud is obvious. I wouldn't touch his build with a 10 ft pole. He is not going to post a full match because he can't do it, due to his "connection" and he's not gonna have someone join because of "connection". Convienant alibi or, you can't physically do it without some type of mod/cheat/exploit and you don't want to be exposed. Imo you really are not a solo god and infact you do not have the ability to solo-not a big deal, I can't solo platinum-so for your sake just come clean.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:57 .


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I don't know what I am talking about (specially from my phone where I can't post my sources and there is no auto spell check to save my third language skills).

I think having a subpar PC can indeed make some games easier (just as the opposite can happen), so I think it could be RedJohn case, however, those that claim he should upgrade his PC or he will be forever a pariah, ****** me off; we live in a ****ty country, yeah it has good things, but there is no way we can just blow our savings to upgrade our PCs or get uber expensive internet just to play a game, we don't roll like that, we have much more important things (like eating or saving money for the unexpected (god forbid you get sick with something bad).

I think it comes down to this, the system flags anyone that maxes their UR within the first 72 hours (or something like that) of a released DLC and they are aware that Redjohn has done that after every DLC and he has yet to be banned.

If bioware with all their tools have not banned RedJohn, who are you to question his legitimacy?

If you think he is a crook, and a liar, just report him, if he gets banned then you will get what you wanted (proof that he cheated) if he doesn't you better shut up.


Disclaimer: it is entirely possible that the low frame rate in Redjohn Pc makes solos eaiser, but that isn't exactly cheating.

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What tools does Bioware even have for anti-cheat? The system is mainly reporting. I doubt they get to examine your local coalesced file.

Just sayin'.

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I really want to beleive this is totally on the level I'd like to say that first and foremost...

...but a lot of compelling rational arguements against here.

If anything the vid refered to actually made me more sceptical. As someone pointed out 4 missles on wv 10 with a Krog tank on GOLD. yet on platinum with a shadow theres at least one left by extraction? What was done against the massed banshees earlier and on wv 10? . How were the objectives done? None are particuarly easy on platinum. Hack and escort can be instant doom for a whole team.

Also sorry to say, but this (below) - almost sounds to me like the typical throw away comment of someone who's been rumbled.

RedJohn wrote...


...anyway, you know, it's pretty funny because meanwhile I am sleeping, going out and having fun with girlfriend you are here disscussin so hard if I am a liar or not, if my build works or not, and blablblablablabla, l love you all :kissing:



This is hardly a compelling argument. I sleep, i go out, spend too much money on GF (which is why im stuck on Ps3 and have a PC about as old). I suspect a lot of others on here do the same,  but we dont post the very end of solo runs which people are, understandably, questioning and try and deflect the issue when we're called out over it.  Personally if someone was effectively calling me a liar i wouldnt find it funny and shrug it off and have a laissez-faire attitude to it - unless its true. I can understand if a PC chugs along at a miserable frame rate, but Airquotes suggestion is perfectly valid and easily done. And if connection is lost at 9/10 so what. if people can see 8 waves having not used any consumables I think its acceptable to beleive 9/10 and extraction would be doable...
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They claim the tools are more than that and can check plenty of things, however they refuse to disclose how their tools work and with good reason.

You have to take their word (or cheat like a madman and see if you caught).

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I really don't care if OP is "legit" or not. But from the videos I've seen, nothing in any of them helps me in any way to play the game better. So... I don't really see the point in them.

For example, the Krogan Soldier video is mostly him using rockets and running away. The increased speed of the video makes it difficult to even tell what's going on. I also don't quite understand the choice in build. What's the point of going full melee if he doesn't seem to use it? Wouldn't full HP/Shields be better for his strategy? Particularly the quicker shield regen?

The Shadow video isn't much of a help either. I couldn't even see the shots fired from the Geth Hunters, so how can I tell that he's actually dodging them? Again, I'm not questioning legitimacy, because I don't really care, I'm just saying that how can I, as an observer, learn how to dodge hunter shots better when I can't even see the hunter shots in the video?

If I tried any of the things I've seen in RedJohn's videos, I would almost certainly die. I've successfully used Blades/Incendiary Grenades combo to permanently stun geth, but it doesn't work all the time, since any single stray shot from a Prime or Hunter can start the dreaded stunlock to death scenario (coupled with the fact that Geth Hunters can shoot while stunned and the strategy becomes problematic). I check out RedJohn's video of the Batarian Soldier, and he does pretty much what I do, except he can apparently do it with enough consistency to solo gold/platinum with it. Obviously there's something I'm missing or doing wrong, but since his videos are so short and so laggy, it's impossible for me to find the missing pieces.

So again, I don't really see the point. Aside from arguing whether or not the videos are legitimate, what is even the point of this 9-page thread?

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Chaoswind wrote...

They claim the tools are more than that and can check plenty of things, however they refuse to disclose how their tools work and with good reason.

You have to take their word (or cheat like a madman and see if you caught).


You can play with a normal Coalesced for public games and solo with a modded one. Or have a trainer. Or some software running. 

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RedJohn wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Poulpor wrote...

Stardusk wrote...


The stuff he does, pretty much miracles. Specter cannot do that and he is better player by leagues.



How are you sure that specter is a better player ? how you measure the skill on mass effect ?


I've seen Specters full videos of solos and speedruns with groups. And he's awesome. I've seen Stentron solos and groups, played with him - he's awesome.

Never seen a full RedJohn video.


Then don't believe me, I can live with that :wizard:.

Ok, my vids are ****, my pc is ****, also my internet is ****.

I play near 30 FPS without recording, in some maps ( white, glacier ) I can reach 30-33 FPS, while recording that number goes down to 11-14 ( best cases ) and 5-10 ( normal cases ).

Now, let's see this one. 
  or not that one, any other.

now my question, can you do that ?
I mean, you think if you play at 10 fps you will be able to do that?:wizard:

Not trying to make anyone believe, in fact i don't care about it, but sometimes when I see people complaining I wonder if they wold be capable of play as I do with my fps's :).



As I said before, i will try to record wave 10, but don't promisse nothing, platinum is too much enemies for be handled by my pc recording.


Seriously don't even bother with Air Quotes.  It's seriously pointless.  The guy has been dead wrong on some things and still wont admit it, even when there was proof in the thread.

He has this little realm of reality, anything outside of it is summarily dismissed.  Or he is a troll.  Either way...

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Chaoswind wrote...

They claim the tools are more than that and can check plenty of things, however they refuse to disclose how their tools work and with good reason.

You have to take their word (or cheat like a madman and see if you caught).

I see...

Air Quotes wrote...

You can play with a normal Coalesced
for public games and solo with a modded one. Or have a trainer. Or some
software running. 

Yeah I imagine this would work.

There are people that play the game modded for more difficulty and they aren't getting banned... although that clearly isn't an advantage.

Modifié par capn233, 23 juillet 2012 - 05:31 .


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It's a shame we can't see more of the game, not because I doubt you actually did it, but because I would love to see the whole 40+ minutes of how you managed to survive. Good job!

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DaDiddles wrote...

I really don't care if OP is "legit" or not. But from the videos I've seen, nothing in any of them helps me in any way to play the game better. So... I don't really see the point in them.

For example, the Krogan Soldier video is mostly him using rockets and running away. The increased speed of the video makes it difficult to even tell what's going on. I also don't quite understand the choice in build. What's the point of going full melee if he doesn't seem to use it? Wouldn't full HP/Shields be better for his strategy? Particularly the quicker shield regen?

The Shadow video isn't much of a help either. I couldn't even see the shots fired from the Geth Hunters, so how can I tell that he's actually dodging them? Again, I'm not questioning legitimacy, because I don't really care, I'm just saying that how can I, as an observer, learn how to dodge hunter shots better when I can't even see the hunter shots in the video?

If I tried any of the things I've seen in RedJohn's videos, I would almost certainly die. I've successfully used Blades/Incendiary Grenades combo to permanently stun geth, but it doesn't work all the time, since any single stray shot from a Prime or Hunter can start the dreaded stunlock to death scenario (coupled with the fact that Geth Hunters can shoot while stunned and the strategy becomes problematic). I check out RedJohn's video of the Batarian Soldier, and he does pretty much what I do, except he can apparently do it with enough consistency to solo gold/platinum with it. Obviously there's something I'm missing or doing wrong, but since his videos are so short and so laggy, it's impossible for me to find the missing pieces.

So again, I don't really see the point. Aside from arguing whether or not the videos are legitimate, what is even the point of this 9-page thread?


When I see Specter soloing with a Turian Sentinel with a Claymore on Gold Condor Reapers I watch and learn. He's bruised and battered, out of consumables and makes to the extraction in 47 minutes. He uses traditional builds with a good weapon. Same for Kroguard. Or the GI on Reactor.

When I see Stentron GI speedrun on Glacier I watch and learn. Traditional build, Claymore, proper mods, missile usage at spawns (picked up the proxy mine anti-phantom trick from him). I tried to reach his time but the best I've done was 23 minutes while he did it in 20. But it works and works well

Same with Sy7ar's DrellGuard, Smashguard videos. You can see how they work. ZHHk - you can see how they work. Stardusk - weird builds, but you can see how they work and pick up a thing or two.  

With RedJohn I can't see ****. The builds are really SUB OPTIMAL, the clear times are godly. He has plenty of consumables left all the time. He only shows some missile and ops packs usage + dying. And NOTHING useful at all.