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[WestLakeDragon]

I was in a group earlier with 3 Destroyers, 2 of them with Typhoon X, one with Typhoon I, all with Piranha X. I was a lowly Paladin, but my word, was it destructive. EVERYTHING DIED within a second or two, and every game was under 20 minutes by a nice margin. Only left because my friends came on and I'd rather play with friends. It was glorious.

Modifié par WestLakeDragon, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:51 .

[Mr_Happy]

Silent Rage wrote...

Thats such a dumb reason to complain.

[Robbbbb]

shut up

[Untonic]

I don't see the problems.
The Pros:
*You don't have to use any mods, Amps, or even have to think about every step.
*Guaranteed survival rate upped by 200%.
*On Silver/Gold/Plat, it's about survival.
*They must look pretty epic.

The Cons:
*If your a COD fanatical mongrel, you'd care about points and /ragequit.
*Nothing really

They're making it easier for you to get money for your next weapon fix, you sure you want to complain about freebies?

[Untonic]

Oh and let me play with them, you'd only about one thing, it would be complaining about how hard it is to walk on a corpse floor.

Modifié par Untonic, 23 juillet 2012 - 02:58 .

[xXdmndmnXx]

December Man wrote...

Glacier Gold Cerberus. Both of them had N7 Piranha X and N7 Typhoon X. They were mowing down Atlases like they were Assault Troopers. Really, one Atlas was gone within no more than 5 seconds. The gap in DPS was so huge, at first I thought they were cheating. 

How is that fun? I know this kind of DPS is required for Platinum, but how on earth is any class supposed to compete with that? I left after the 6th wave. I know I could've remained and earned easy 70k credits, but this was just no fun. I was a Demolisher and I felt totally useless. It's all because of Platinum. If this DPS weren't required to finish the damn thing...

Kind sir, i hope you haven't started a nerf thread going by another name. Anyhow, the Demolisher is more of a support and crowd control class. Your main power is the Supply pylon which basically translates SUPPORT. And they were destroyers, basically "soldiers" and what do said soldiers do? They kill, hopefully everything, so stop complaining.

[Triceratops]

Yesterday I played my demolisher for hours waiting for that special destroyer to come along and use my pylon to protect me from all those nasty phantoms and banshees and he never showed up.

[Locust2]

 The biggest issue with this game is that they are finally adding proper weapons.  For so long we have had to put up with single shot weapons or gimmick weapons, now we finally have some proper automatics that don't have huge drawbacks such as accuracy so bad you need to be 6 feet away or damage so low you can't even kill a poor mook in a whole magazine.  Finally some automatics are worth using and now the player base is not used to this, so it cries.

Typhoon is actually a minor upgrade over revenant, but that little bit shows.  Piranha may be in need of balancing, I believe it has highest DPS crown by around 40%?

[Sinapus]

Generally, I let someone that powerful go after the strongest foes and watch those foes fall.


It does get annoying when they start killing every possible thing with little tactical sense. Let your teammates handle the flankers and you go after the heavies and big mobs, oh yee with the heavy combat classes.

[retic]

If those 2 destroyers were on PS3 and as long as they don't missile glitch (and drag me to the ban hole), I'd be happy to farm credits with them and "look useless".

[Hulk Hsieh]

Devastator mode provides 82% bonus to damage, higher than both AR and MM.
And there's no weight concern like the active abilities like AR/MM.
And the accuracy/magazine bonus are tailored to boost automatic or rapid fire weapons like Typhoon/Piranha.

How can Destroyer be not OP with the 2 weapons?

Modifié par Hulk Hsieh, 23 juillet 2012 - 03:48 .

[Diffamo]

Silent Rage wrote...

Thats such a dumb reason to complain.

[ToaOrka]

Oh no, your teammates were vastly more skilled than you. You should nerf them.

[FlamboyantRoy]

FFS they're called "DESTROYERS" what you expect them to do? Delicately tenderize their enemies before taking them out to Nipsy's?

Modifié par FlamboyantRoy, 23 juillet 2012 - 04:53 .

[Clayless]

Also if your teammates are that good just change to a MQI. You'll help out the team arguably the same as those Destroyers.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

December Man wrote...

Glacier Gold Cerberus. Both of them had N7 Piranha X and N7 Typhoon X. They were mowing down Atlases like they were Assault Troopers. Really, one Atlas was gone within no more than 5 seconds. The gap in DPS was so huge, at first I thought they were cheating. 

How is that fun? I know this kind of DPS is required for Platinum, but how on earth is any class supposed to compete with that? I left after the 6th wave. I know I could've remained and earned easy 70k credits, but this was just no fun. I was a Demolisher and I felt totally useless. It's all because of Platinum. If this DPS weren't required to finish the damn thing...

Weapons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caster powers.

It is an issue Bioware needs to address, but they don't seem to be doing so. Instead the gap is growing, and growing, and growing.

[bluenamelesswolf]

I beg to differ.

As Cerebeus Adept I can wipe out large groups easily with smash and go toe to toe with bosses.

With destroyers you can't dodge so when going against Banshees your at a big disadvantage.

And I just played a 17 minute Gold Run where there was a Geth Infilitrator that was specced for melee and all he did was just go around and melt everything around him. As a destroyer I had trouble keeping up with him and cleaning up as well to ensure he would not get flanked.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

December Man wrote...

Oh my dear Christ, when I wrote "compete", I meant "how in the hell am I supposed to kill anything - I want to kill SOMETHING", not the f*cking scoreboard.

Plus pressing M1 at a thing with a level X gun and having it die is, apparently, skilled. This game does not require much skill. CoD doesn't require any skill for that matter.

I actually begin to feel right now back when I was in that match - "why do I even bother?". Why do I even bother to discuss this with some of you?

Yeah, good look trying to do something like set up a biotic combo. By the time you cast something, have it dodged, recast the primer power and cast something to detonate it everything is dead. Of course there are folks who hate on you for pointing out this gap in power.

[Transairion]

Weapons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caster powers.

I wish I was smoking what you were, since pre-Typhoon/Destroyer Soldier I've yet to see a weapon class outdo biotics. Game full of biotic explosions flies by in minutes even when you're getting swarmed by a horde, but a couple of Infiltrators with Black Widows? LOLZ.

You know how long Soldiers have waited for a class that can ignore cooldowns and doesn't get crippled by Geth (Krogan)? Don't mess this up for me with your inaccurate whining.

[TommyNg]

Destroyer is supposed to have highest DPS of weapon in game , as they have no power , they only have guns. You can also use typhoon and arc grenade in demolisher with unlimited ammo. Just admit u are a noob with no skill.

[uv23]

I'm so sick of people calling for nerfing. You know what really ruins fun? Shooting an enemy a million times to kill it. Silver is actually way more fun than gold, because the amount of damage required to kill an enemy feels the most appropriate and realistic. But you don't get squat for $$$ from silver so we end up grinding through gold and platinum. If you want to make things more challenging, increase the number of enemies. But for the love of god, STOP nerfing crap and STOP making enemies more powerful. Gah.

[Hulk Hsieh]

death_for_sale wrote...

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

Devastator mode provides 82% bonus to damage, higher than both AR and MM.
And there's no weight concern like the active abilities like AR/MM.
And the accuracy/magazine bonus are tailored to boost automatic or rapid fire weapons like Typhoon/Piranha.

How can Destroyer be not OP with the 2 weapons?

Uh, no, no it doesn't. If you spec for it, you can obtain exactly 30% bonus damage from Devastator mode. Even if you count RoF increases or accuracy increases as a damage increase, It is not going to add up to 82%. I would really like to know how you came up with those numbers, especially since you don't even have the class unlocked.

There really should be a rule that you cannot post comments about stuff you don't even have available to you yet.

Damage increased from speed and pure number are to be multiplied, not added.
So it is 1.3 x 1.4 = 1.82.
Don't need the character to do simple math.