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[Rockworm503]

DominusVita wrote...

I've never understood people's fondness of games such as God of War

It's a form of catharsis as an unstoppable killing machine. It gave me the same feeling I had with the original "The Darkness" Game. It also has serious visuals, great camerawork(particularly the 3rd), and the expert modes can be blisteringly difficult near the end. God of War 2 & 3 especially have 10-minute fights that feel nigh-impossible on Titan/Chaos Mode. I eventually got the 3rd one in the labyrinth, but the 2nd one drove me nuts.

I'm just now mustering up the courage to try hard mode.  At least the first one is easier than I remember but even on normal some of the battles felt impossible.

[Matchy Pointy]

jreezy wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

GTA seires

I find it hard to believe someone can hate this whole series.

Not the whole series, but everything after Vice City, especially GTA IV.

[Ghost Lightning]

I don't know that I absolutely hate any game. And I certinly don't hate them just cause their popularity. But one series I've grown to be disappointed in is Madden Football. The series is the ultimate example of repackaging. Way worse than CoD. I mean I loved Madden 06 but since then they have become just terrible.

[Dominus]

I'm just now mustering up the courage to try hard mode. At least the first one is easier than I remember but even on normal some of the battles felt impossible.

Going from memory, God of War 2/3 have some horrid sections that are less about difficulty through the damage, but how long you have to endure. Right before killing the last sister is the nasty one I never finished. Bosses aren't that bad(Outside of GoW 3's Zeus). In the end, it's often just a matter of trial and error. Those 2 I listed above really require more luck than skill if you ask me. For the labyrinth battle, I used the nemesis whips and spammed the hardest aerial combos, followed by a whole lot of rolling. And people complain about shepard rolling? Kratos has been doing it for years.

Back on topic, Most Mario Spin-Off games. Yes, most of that.

[TheJester000]

I don't like any Bethseda games like Skyrim and Fallout. I've tried them out on several occasions and just thought they were terrible.

[Orian Tabris]

Minecraft, the Portal series and the Dead Space series.

I don't hate them, I just think they're stupid.

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:27 .

[Dominus]

I don't like any Bethseda games like Skyrim and Fallout. I've tried them out on several occasions and just thought they were terrible.

I love the majority of exploration in them, but the story will never make headlines. Skyrim, for example: It's gorgeous, immersive, and has some serious fights in it. It also has the most uninspired quests of all time and a throwaway narrative. It's greatly improved from oblivion, but overall won't make that great of precedent towards the industry in terms of game mechanics and story. It's on the technical/graphical/artistic level.

Modifié par DominusVita, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:42 .

[Orian Tabris]

DominusVita wrote...

TheJester000 wrote...

I don't like any Bethseda games like Skyrim and Fallout. I've tried them
out on several occasions and just thought they were terrible.

I love the majority of exploration in them, but the story will never make headlines. Skyrim, for example: It's gorgeous, immersive, and has some serious fights in it. It also has the most uninspired quests of all time and a throwaway narrative. It's greatly improved from oblivion, but overall won't make that great of precedent towards the industry in terms of game mechanics and story. It's on the technical/graphical/artistic level.

I agree with most of that. Some game companies, just excell at specific things. Bethesda excells at exploration, BioWare, at character development.

[Joy Divison]

android654 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

android654 wrote...

Skelter192

android654 wrote...

People saying COD is the worst game, is like people saying Sean Connery is the best Bond. I think you're just repeating what you heard someone else say.

 

Bronson was the best Bond!

He's the pretiest, but Craig is the best Bond.

Sean Connery is analogous to George Washington in terms of the Bond franchise. His performances were the foundation of the movie franchise. If he did crappy overall, Craig, Moore, etc.. never would've had a chance.

Comic book movies prove you wrong. So many were disasters, and they still get remade over and over again. The same would've happened if Sean Connery's Bond films tanked. Still, it doesn't change the fact that the man only seems comfortable in the role since they focused most heavily on him swooning women and poorly choreographed fight scenes, which are things he already was. So it was no feat of acting of filming. People simply say he's the best out of nostolgia or being caught in the trap of repeating what others around them have said.

The Living Daylights was the first Bond movie to give James some character, and Casino Royale has been the best crafted film in the entire series. I mean from script writing, to cinematography, to acting. It's simply the best crafted film in the series, and no amount of poorly shot roughhousing on a train can make From Russia With Love compare. That's not because a test of time. The Spy Who Came In From The Cold is miles beyond Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and has the added benefit of being 50 years older.

You are aware that the budgets those Connery movies had were comaprable to what I pulled in working a weekend as a waiter?  People say Connery is the best Bond mostly because Connery was a superior actor and possessed an indescribable charisma that the others who have played Bond cannot match.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 24 juillet 2012 - 05:00 .

[Gotholhorakh]

jreezy wrote...

Gotholhorakh wrote...

Dead Space (pure garbage, neurologically special choice of camera angles, and there are episodes of Dora the Explorer with a scarier, more gritty atmosphere)

A point gets lost in excessive hyperbole like this.

Thanks for the critique! How can I put this politely... whether my choice of words pleases you is... insignificant to me.


Also, context of thread, people are mostly enjoying reading others' personal reactions to popular games they "absolutely hate" and and then posting their own (not offering them up for appraisal). That and discussing who is the best Bond. Most enjoyable, you should try it.

suntzuxi wrote...
GTA seires

Oh yes, count me in on that one, too!


I'm tempted to add the Zelda games to the list too tbh, but I struggle to work up any really strong feeling about them, I think they're more meh.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 24 juillet 2012 - 08:48 .

[Mercannis]

Dead Space. Incredibly popular among friends and i just dont get it...its not scary and its boring.
Timothy Dalton was the best Bond in my opinion. He was the first actor who actually read the books and tried to bring Flemming's Bond to the screen.

Would still be Bond as well if those screwups at MGM had pulled their finger out but oh no lets wait 6 years and then take Remington ****in steele as a replacement.
As to old Sean's acting chops he was a milkman in Edinburgh with zero schooling. The amount of dimwits in my country who pissed and moaned about him turning down the role of Gandalf...i was bloody ecstatic especially when McKellen was confirmed.

[android654]

Joy Divison wrote...

android654 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

android654 wrote...

Skelter192

android654 wrote...

People saying COD is the worst game, is like people saying Sean Connery is the best Bond. I think you're just repeating what you heard someone else say.

 

Bronson was the best Bond!

He's the pretiest, but Craig is the best Bond.

Sean Connery is analogous to George Washington in terms of the Bond franchise. His performances were the foundation of the movie franchise. If he did crappy overall, Craig, Moore, etc.. never would've had a chance.

Comic book movies prove you wrong. So many were disasters, and they still get remade over and over again. The same would've happened if Sean Connery's Bond films tanked. Still, it doesn't change the fact that the man only seems comfortable in the role since they focused most heavily on him swooning women and poorly choreographed fight scenes, which are things he already was. So it was no feat of acting of filming. People simply say he's the best out of nostolgia or being caught in the trap of repeating what others around them have said.

The Living Daylights was the first Bond movie to give James some character, and Casino Royale has been the best crafted film in the entire series. I mean from script writing, to cinematography, to acting. It's simply the best crafted film in the series, and no amount of poorly shot roughhousing on a train can make From Russia With Love compare. That's not because a test of time. The Spy Who Came In From The Cold is miles beyond Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and has the added benefit of being 50 years older.

You are aware that the budgets those Connery movies had were comaprable to what I pulled in working a weekend as a waiter?  People say Connery is the best Bond mostly because Connery was a superior actor and possessed an indescribable charisma that the others who have played Bond cannot match.

You're serious?

Connery can act to his "ability." Like Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Anniston or Vin Diesel. His range in acting is practically nonexistant, and that's catalogued throughout his acting career. There are many great actors from the U.K., but he isn't one of them. People only praise Connery for the same reasons they praise Adam West. It's a combination of nostalgia and them being the first to have the franchise when it first became popular. They aren't known for their feats in acting.

[android654]

Mercannis wrote...

Dead Space. Incredibly popular among friends and i just dont get it...its not scary and its boring.
Timothy Dalton was the best Bond in my opinion. He was the first actor who actually read the books and tried to bring Flemming's Bond to the screen.

Would still be Bond as well if those screwups at MGM had pulled their finger out but oh no lets wait 6 years and then take Remington ****in steele as a replacement.
As to old Sean's acting chops he was a milkman in Edinburgh with zero schooling. The amount of dimwits in my country who pissed and moaned about him turning down the role of Gandalf...i was bloody ecstatic especially when McKellen was confirmed.

Agreed, The Living Daylights is the first "great" Bond movie, and the first to portray him as a character, rather than a man of action with an English accent. Dalton hit all the marks of Bond. The gentleman, the duitiful soldier, and the conflicted hero. All of the films before it couldn't seem to get those three essential points to the character.

[marshalleck]

Orian Tabris wrote...
BioWare, at character development.

Stop repeating this tired old meme, it's not true. Bioware do character assassination now, not development. Their writers are trash.

[Orian Tabris]

marshalleck wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...
BioWare, at character development.

Stop repeating this tired old meme, it's not true. Bioware do character assassination now, not development. Their writers are trash.

I can read your text, but all I see is: "Blah, blah, blah." *Whiney crybaby has tantrum fail* <_<
ZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzzz....

[Orian Tabris]

android654 wrote...
Connery can act to his "ability." Like Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer
Anniston or Vin Diesel. His range in acting is practically nonexistant,
and that's catalogued throughout his acting career. There are many great
actors from the U.K., but he isn't one of them. People only praise
Connery for the same reasons they praise Adam West. It's a combination
of nostalgia and them being the first to have the franchise when it
first became popular. They aren't known for their feats in acting.

You obvisously haven't seen Family Guy.

I've never seen an Adam West Batman movie, and I was born after the Batman craze first began... I think.

[Joy Divison]

android654 wrote...






You're serious?

Connery can act to his "ability." Like Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Anniston or Vin Diesel. His range in acting is practically nonexistant, and that's catalogued throughout his acting career. There are many great actors from the U.K., but he isn't one of them. People only praise Connery for the same reasons they praise Adam West. It's a combination of nostalgia and them being the first to have the franchise when it first became popular. They aren't known for their feats in acting.

Yep I am serious.  Acting is not something which should be defined or judged accodring to some manual.  It is all about projecting an image or a presence on screen.  Connery's Bond did that.  It was a memorable, iconic. Compare that to the insipid performances by Brosnan and Dalton.  Those two are so mediocre the only way I know which movies they "starred" in is the chronological release date of the film.

Who praises Adam West?  I have never heard of anyone praising him and I certainly won't.  Your comprison of West and Connery is absolutely ridiculous.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:54 .

[Costin_Razvan]

There are people out there who call Sean Connery a horrible actor?

HERESY!

[IElitePredatorI]

Every Call of Duty from 4 onwards. No explanation needed.

[android654]

Joy Divison wrote...

android654 wrote...






You're serious?

Connery can act to his "ability." Like Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Anniston or Vin Diesel. His range in acting is practically nonexistant, and that's catalogued throughout his acting career. There are many great actors from the U.K., but he isn't one of them. People only praise Connery for the same reasons they praise Adam West. It's a combination of nostalgia and them being the first to have the franchise when it first became popular. They aren't known for their feats in acting.

Yep I am serious.  Acting is not something which should be defined or judged accodring to some manual.  It is all about projecting an image or a presence on screen.  Connery's Bond did that.  It was a memorable, iconic. Compare that to the insipid performances by Brosnan and Dalton.  Those two are so mediocre the only way I know which movies they "starred" in is the chronological release date of the film.

Who praises Adam West?  I have never heard of anyone praising him and I certainly won't.  Your comprison of West and Connery is absolutely ridiculous.

Umm... There is a manual to acting. A manual thats taught in theater and film acting schools all over the world. It was written by Constatin Stanislavaski. If you read anything about his method on acting he states that acting is the "embodiment of the biggest lie." It's about taking the actor and using the material (script, scene, etc) to change the actor into a completely different person. Sean Connery is the same person in every single role he has ever played in his entire career. He has not once attempted a role which has challeneged his ability. Every form of art has a critiquing method, and by the critique of acting, he's not a talented actor.

Old fanboys of Batman praise West like old fanboys of Bond praise Connery. Their portrayl of those characters are equaly bufoonish, and are currently replaced by people much more talented than they were in those roles years ago.

[xkg]

If I may ask, Sean Connery acting ability is relevant in "popular games that I hate" topic exactly how ?

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

 I actually like Brosnan as Bond. He's got that smoothness and charm befitting of the character. The one I hate the most Daniel Craig(that whole young Bond thing totally ruined it for me). TImothy Dalton is second worst.

[Chromie]

xkg wrote...

If I may ask, Sean Connery acting ability is relevant in "popular games that I hate" topic exactly how ?

I've successfully trolled this thread.

[Joy Divison]

android654 wrote...

Joy Divison wrote...

android654 wrote...






You're serious?

Connery can act to his "ability." Like Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Anniston or Vin Diesel. His range in acting is practically nonexistant, and that's catalogued throughout his acting career. There are many great actors from the U.K., but he isn't one of them. People only praise Connery for the same reasons they praise Adam West. It's a combination of nostalgia and them being the first to have the franchise when it first became popular. They aren't known for their feats in acting.

Yep I am serious.  Acting is not something which should be defined or judged accodring to some manual.  It is all about projecting an image or a presence on screen.  Connery's Bond did that.  It was a memorable, iconic. Compare that to the insipid performances by Brosnan and Dalton.  Those two are so mediocre the only way I know which movies they "starred" in is the chronological release date of the film.

Who praises Adam West?  I have never heard of anyone praising him and I certainly won't.  Your comprison of West and Connery is absolutely ridiculous.

Umm... There is a manual to acting. A manual thats taught in theater and film acting schools all over the world. It was written by Constatin Stanislavaski. If you read anything about his method on acting he states that acting is the "embodiment of the biggest lie." It's about taking the actor and using the material (script, scene, etc) to change the actor into a completely different person. Sean Connery is the same person in every single role he has ever played in his entire career. He has not once attempted a role which has challeneged his ability. Every form of art has a critiquing method, and by the critique of acting, he's not a talented actor.

Old fanboys of Batman praise West like old fanboys of Bond praise Connery. Their portrayl of those characters are equaly bufoonish, and are currently replaced by people much more talented than they were in those roles years ago.

No, that's not a manual to acting.  What you are describing is someone's interpretation/theory of what acting ought to be.  The difference is significant.  Since you are calling acting an art, you should recognize this.  You are reducing acting to the equivalent of paint-by-numbers.

And what is Sean Connery like in real life/off stage?  If is naturally reserved, introverted, and otherwise unimpressive in a crowd then by your own definition, he is an excellent actor.  Until you can demonstrate his Bond role fails to project a "completely different person," than you have no basis for your own argument.

And Sean Connery in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade did play a role which did not fit into his iconic style.

Besides, whether or not he acts with the same style in his films outside the Bond series has zero relevance to how well he captures the Bond persona.  It means his acting career has little versatility, it does not make Pierce Brosnan's forgettable performance somehow better than his.